can mac do this? windows xp can........

Discussion in 'Mac Basics and Help' started by bob2131, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. bob2131 macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2008
    #1
    windows xp...
    Alt activates focus on the menu. press the key corresponding to the underlined letter in the menu item that you wish to activate.

    so you dont have to navigate to menu bar with mouse........nice.


    can mac do this?

    (basically the less mouse usage the better)
     
  2. ZballZ macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2006
    #2
    Yes! Mac can do short-cuts as well :)

    For the most, you press the apple-key + the letter, instead of windows Alt+letter. Ex in word and most apps, you press apple+S for save document... and so on ...

    If you go to the menu with the mouse and click - you will see the short-cut-keys (if any) next to the commands...
     
  3. iwuzbord macrumors 6502

    iwuzbord

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2008
    Location:
    New York City
    #3
    yes if u press control f2, your focus will go to the menu bar.
     
  4. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2008
    #4
    no.......you dont get me..........
     
  5. swiftaw macrumors 603

    swiftaw

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2005
    Location:
    Omaha, NE, USA
    #5
    As said above: Ctrl+F2
     
  6. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2008
    #6
    reallly?.........control & F2........thats kind of a long way to stretch your fingers..........and then plus another key for the destination.........


    thanks, ill check it tonight.
     
  7. TEG macrumors 604

    TEG

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2002
    Location:
    Langley, Washington
    #7
    Yes. It is an optional feature you can turn on under System Preferences->Accessibility

    TEG
     
  8. neonblue2 macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2006
    Location:
    Port Pirie, South Australia
    #8
    You can edit keyboard shortcuts in System Preferences > Keyboard and Mouse > Keyboard Shortcuts.
     
  9. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2008
    #9
    there is no system preferences>accessibility options

    ive tried pressing fn and f2 (im on macbook)

    i press these 2 keys and nothing happens.

    and i also dont think some of you guys are understanding what i am asking.

    for example....say if i was using a windows xp keyboard now....i would press alt and on the top menu bar, not the internet browser bar, the windows top bar menu, specific letters on each menu option would be underlined, usually the first letter of word, and so if i press alt and e, the edit menu would open up and i can navigate to any option in the pop out menu and select.....all without using the mouse..........just by using shortcuts and arrow keys and enter......

    is this possible on the mac???

    i see fn and f2 checked but nothing happens.....

    when i press control and f2.....only the brightness level changes.....just like if i never even pressed control and just pressed f2

    when i booted up the macook for the first time....it asked me which keyboard something/style i wanted to use.....america or uk.....i chose uk.....

    will this be an issue?? what does this mean??
    can i change it?
     
  10. gauchogolfer macrumors 603

    gauchogolfer

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2005
    Location:
    American Riviera
    #10
    If you're on a laptop you'll need to press fn+ctrl+f2, since otherwise the f2 button is by default mapped to display brightness. You can of course change this in System Preferences by choosing 'use all f1, f2, etc. as standard function keys'. If you choose this then you'll need to hit fn + function key to access the special functions (brightness, volume, etc.)
     
  11. richard.mac macrumors 603

    richard.mac

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Location:
    51.50024, -0.12662
    #11
    if youre on a MacBook the F keys are designated to Hardware settings. press fn+control+F2 to move focus to the menu bar. to change the F keys to software features tick "Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as standard function keys" in Keyboard preferences.

    to change the shortcut go to Keyboard Shortcuts preferences and double click on "^F2" as shown in the image below and change it to somthing you prefer… maybe the "option+Z"? (has to be a key combo).

    [​IMG]

    EDIT: sorry gauchogolfer i pretty much typed the same thing but it took time to upload the image.
     
  12. iwuzbord macrumors 6502

    iwuzbord

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2008
    Location:
    New York City
    #12
    NOTE:richthomas beat me to it and posted before i did. i took too long. he he. sry about that


    this answers your question completely.
    you can change the function at any time, and find what best suits you.
    and since you chose the uk keyboard your options may be different.
    i dont think so though
     

    Attached Files:

  13. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2008
    #13
    yes thats what i mean....thankyou thankyou......but......
    ok say if i press fn ctrl f2.......the apple sign menur gets highlighted.....
    cant i highlight say the file menu? ok.....so say i highlight the apple sign menu......then cant i just jump to the 'go' menu? instead of going through the menus one by one.......oh i got it.....then you just press fn and the first letter of the menu item..............

    its ok.....but one too many button being pressed, and overly stretching of fingers for hitting f2.........and you have to go to the apple sign menu??? and then to another menu......can you just go to the menu you want without going to the apple sign menu first?

    sorry......
     
  14. richard.mac macrumors 603

    richard.mac

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Location:
    51.50024, -0.12662
    #14
    yeh its a bit of a round-about way. i would say most users dont use this. just use keyboard shortcuts… WAY EASIER! and Mac OS X's keyboard shortcuts are WAY EASIER to learn and remember than Windows's shortcuts.

    here is a guide for the special key symbols. your UK keyboard might already have some of these symbols on the keyboard but the US one doesnt.
     
  15. JNB macrumors 604

    JNB

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2004
    Location:
    In a Hell predominately of my own making
    #15
    Good god, that's been around since Windows 3.1 (or earlier). Alt key combinations used to be the only way to navigate efficiently. Closest thing to a UI standard in Windows apps from day one.
     
  16. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2008
    #16
    ok thankyou.....oh so i can change the shortcut?,,,,,nice........

    most users dont use this....cause using the mouse is second nature and easier.....but alot of things dont have dedicated shortcuts.....and alot of applications we use.....we have to go to the menus and find the right option......this technique is a god send......

    and this IS a keyboard shortcut......

    regards

    lol
    i only discovered and learnt it on windows a year ago.....it was like a revelation......

    used to be the only way to navigate efficiently? used to be? it still is isnt it?

    UI standard? whats that?
     
  17. richard.mac macrumors 603

    richard.mac

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Location:
    51.50024, -0.12662
    #17
    TRUE! but i meant skip highlighting and opening the menu in the first place and just use the keyboard shortcut next to the menu option.
     
  18. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2008
    #18
    so i HAVE to go to the apple sign menu first???

    oh yeah i get ya.....yeah i do that to.....but some of the apps today!!! soooo many options.......sometimes you need to just browse and go through them....only when you are gonna be using a certain option regularly, is there a need to learn the proper short cut for it.
     
  19. richard.mac macrumors 603

    richard.mac

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Location:
    51.50024, -0.12662
    #19
    yep! thats why i dont use it.
     
  20. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2008
    #20
    windows xp wins this one then im afraid. sorry guys.
     
  21. rdp5008 macrumors regular

    rdp5008

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2006
    Location:
    Florida
    #21
    BURN!

    At least XP can win something. Everyone needs to feel good about themselves sometimes!
     
  22. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2008
    #22
    lol
    (smiling)

    XP eh...what are we gonna do with ya..........
     
  23. rdp5008 macrumors regular

    rdp5008

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2006
    Location:
    Florida
  24. patrickmacrumor macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2008
    #24
    bob2131: I know exactly what you mean. I've been wondering menu shortcuts have not been implemented in OS X. In XP, I can access the Help menu if one key combination. In OS X, I have to access the Apple menu first, then use the arrow key to navigate to the Help menu. When it comes to shortcut keys, I personally think Windows does a better job.
     
  25. ZiggyPastorius macrumors 68040

    ZiggyPastorius

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2007
    Location:
    Berklee College of Music
    #25
    The problem is, when you switch, you can't keep expecting OS X to do everything the same as Windows. As you explore, you'll find there are lots of things XP does better, and lots of things OS X does better. I personally hate navigating like that, so it's useless to me, but for someone else, like you, it's something you'll miss dearly. Everyone chooses their OS and computers based on what makes them the most efficient. This is the way it is, I'm afraid.
     

Share This Page