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iPhone 16/Plus Can we return our iPhone 16s due to cancelled Siri?
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1. Apple took down the ad. That’s an undeniable fact, plain and simple. You don’t need to be an expert to see it—Apple engaged in false advertising.
2. "Has any other company been affected in the same way?"—what a joke. Is that really the point here? Considering you actually have nothing meaningful to say, I’ll forgive your poor attempt at deflecting the issue.
3. Haven’t picked up your "Loyal Apple Defender" badge yet? Take a left up ahead and claim it yourself.
Oh, by the way, considering how much you rely on AI to speak for you, I guess you really do need AI Siri.
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Oh, so your Siri is already omnipotent, unlike our dumb Siri? That’s not surprising—wasn’t that exactly what the ad promised?
Okay.
One more time.
What SPECIFIC information was false?
The ad was for updated siri. Updated siri is still coming. What lies were told?
My view is actually quite simple—this really isn’t a big deal. Companies claim things, then fail to deliver on them. Honestly, this is incredibly common, so common that very few consumers would actually take legal action over something like this.
But what’s the real issue here? It’s the fact that certain people keep pushing this narrative: "It’s just a delay! Apple never promised anything!" Oh, come on. Do you think everyone is a three-year-old? Is this how you play the word game?
Of course, Apple never explicitly "promised" anything. It never gave a specific launch date for the so-called smart AI Siri, nor did it outline in a detailed spec sheet exactly what features this "smart AI Siri" would offer. Apple didn’t do any of that.
But what did Apple do? It shot an ad—an ad that performed those features right before our eyes. And that’s where the issue lies. Is that really so hard to understand?
So sure, if Apple ends up delaying or even failing to deliver, people can just laugh it off. But if certain individuals feel the need to nitpick and go, "Apple never explicitly said this or that," to seriously counter anyone expressing dissatisfaction—then I have to say, give me a break.
Maybe you should hop in a time machine and convince Cook not to release that ad in the first place. Or better yet, grab a memory-erasing device and zap everyone who remembers those ads. That would make things a whole lot easier.
But what’s the real issue here? It’s the fact that certain people keep pushing this narrative: "It’s just a delay! Apple never promised anything!" Oh, come on. Do you think everyone is a three-year-old? Is this how you play the word game?
Of course, Apple never explicitly "promised" anything. It never gave a specific launch date for the so-called smart AI Siri, nor did it outline in a detailed spec sheet exactly what features this "smart AI Siri" would offer. Apple didn’t do any of that.
But what did Apple do? It shot an ad—an ad that performed those features right before our eyes. And that’s where the issue lies. Is that really so hard to understand?
So sure, if Apple ends up delaying or even failing to deliver, people can just laugh it off. But if certain individuals feel the need to nitpick and go, "Apple never explicitly said this or that," to seriously counter anyone expressing dissatisfaction—then I have to say, give me a break.
Maybe you should hop in a time machine and convince Cook not to release that ad in the first place. Or better yet, grab a memory-erasing device and zap everyone who remembers those ads. That would make things a whole lot easier.
That's a pretty big word salad.
The ad was for advanced siri. no one is debating that.
Advanced siri is delayed. no one is debating that.
This is a bad thing. no one is debating that.
But the truth is, the updated software wasn't running correctly often enough for apple to launch it. They felt the need to take down the ad because they don't have it figured out yet. They have obviously missed their own goals for the launch of this updated feature, but I still don't see how any of this can be seen as some sort of dishonesty toward their customers.
Would you prefer they updated your device with siri that is only accurate 70% of the time?
The ad was for advanced siri. no one is debating that.
Advanced siri is delayed. no one is debating that.
This is a bad thing. no one is debating that.
But the truth is, the updated software wasn't running correctly often enough for apple to launch it. They felt the need to take down the ad because they don't have it figured out yet. They have obviously missed their own goals for the launch of this updated feature, but I still don't see how any of this can be seen as some sort of dishonesty toward their customers.
Would you prefer they updated your device with siri that is only accurate 70% of the time?
Apple has already shut up, but you're still out here blasting a megaphone for them.
Win what? Hahaha. Just go ahead and order Apple to release the features from the ad they took down—would save you a lot of trouble.
1. They've taken down plenty of ads.
2. You brought up the point, I countered it with a question which you cannot answer.
3. Already got it thanks, although I would not defend anything I personally thought was wrong. This is a delay, if it was cancelled - then it would warrant the attention. Anyone buying a device solely for some A.I stuff needs their life priorities evaluated.
I rely on AI to speak for me? I don't even use Apple Intelligence even though I have it on my device so your comment makes no sense.
Are you going to also hold Apple to task for AirPower not being released years back? The small print for the new A.I features stated, and still states they can add and withdraw features as they choose.
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No, you didn’t ask a question I couldn’t answer, but I’ll entertain you for a bit.
First, Apple has indeed taken down many ads, just like BMW, Ford, and Mazda have. But what we’re talking about now is Apple taking down an ad that was specifically designed to push sales and was about AI Siri. That’s the first undeniable fact you can’t refute.
The second undeniable fact is that the ad portrayed a highly intelligent AI Siri, and Apple failed to deliver. Yes, they failed—no matter what you say. The only way you can attempt to argue against this is by repeating the same tired excuses: "Apple never promised any features, Apple never promised a release date, Apple never promised anything at all—including whatever you think I can’t answer."
Yes, you can’t refute the facts, but you do have the freedom to engage in sophistry. And that’s exactly why I don’t bother answering what you think is an "unanswerable" question.
So, the facts are right in front of you. My iPhone 16 Pro does not have the AI Siri that was advertised. That’s the third undeniable fact you can’t refute.
I’m not actually mad that I watched an ad and didn’t get what was advertised. What’s truly irritating is watching you lot embarrass yourselves with these pathetic attempts at word games, thinking you’ve somehow constructed a "strong and logical" argument.
Give it a rest. I’ve already given you the answer. At this point, your only real options are a time machine or a memory-erasing neuralyzer.
Oh, but my apologies for assuming you were just speaking through AI. The AI I usually think of tends to be more flexible. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
The only one playing word games here is you. You chose these words and then are trying to dance around what you said.
The ad said this feature was coming. Everyone still expects for it to be coming. It's just late. End of story.
Apology accepted.
You say people are repeating the same "tired excuses", maybe they're being repeated because they're correct. No date was given, nothing has been cancelled, the features are coming as promised.
Clear to see that if anyone disagrees with your own views, they're wrong so no point in engaging further.
Here is the exact from Apple spokeswoman Jacqueline Roy:
https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/...personalized_siri_apple_intelligence_features
Alright then. As the saying goes, the higher the expectations, the greater the disappointment. So let's wait and see. With your confident assurance, I’m sure it won’t let us down—just like always. After all, nothing was really promised, right?
What? I honestly can't make sense of half of your posts.
I never said that nothing was promised. I said no timeline was promised. The ad clearly showed specific features. The official statement from Apple says those features are coming, but that they have been delayed.
What ad? Oh, you mean the one that clearly showcased AI Siri’s capabilities and performance—the one that got taken down? Of course, Apple claims it’s just delayed.
It’s like someone buying a car that was advertised as having revolutionary self-driving capabilities, only to take it home and find out that the ad was pulled because the feature is "delayed."
Well, I believe we can all agree on that part. Now, only two questions remain:
After users saw the ad and made a purchase, Apple took the ad down—even though "Apple never promised a release date."
1. Do you agree with how Apple handled this?
2. Does Apple's behavior constitute false or misleading advertising?
From the start, these have been the only two real questions. Your answers will determine how you view what you call "my word games."
There’s no standard answer, but you’ve already seen my perspective, so I won’t repeat it. Now, go ahead and answer.
Some people take this so personal, like someone pushed your mother down the stairs. This is advancing technology that is still being developed. No one promised rides on the space shuttle. Chill.
I completely agree with your point, which is why I already mentioned earlier that even if they truly fail to deliver on time, at least for me personally, I wouldn’t be genuinely upset about it. And that’s not just a polite remark—at least for me, I wouldn’t be.
But the issue here is that Apple’s handling of this situation is flawed. Of course, I’m sure their gold-plated legal team will ensure that any noise stays confined to forums, but let’s be real—everyone can see what’s happening.
If a company promotes a product with a specific feature, produces a high-quality ad to market it extensively, only to pull the ad once they realize they cannot deliver on time, leaving it in a state of delay—then yes, that’s a problem.
Given Apple’s reputation, I don’t believe they will ultimately completely fail to deliver, but this kind of maneuvering is undeniably bad optics. And yet, for some people, even criticism seems to be off-limits. That, I simply can’t agree with.
I 100% believe there should be a class action suit.
They SOLD the 16s with promise of features that are still now here 55% into the life cycle of the 16 before the 17.
Come to think of it I want full refunds for all my iphones since Siri came out because it sucks.
They SOLD the 16s with promise of features that are still now here 55% into the life cycle of the 16 before the 17.
Come to think of it I want full refunds for all my iphones since Siri came out because it sucks.