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Time for me to jump on he bandwagon. Mine came in about 6 hours ago. I only started setting it up about an hour ago (so the condensation was gone).Beautiful screen - no light bleed or single dead/stuck pixel to be found (I looked thoroughly!). I skipped migration assistant when starting it up, thinking I could just connect to my time capsule to grab certain files from my macbook pro backups but couldn"t, so now Im using the migration assistant to hopefully grab all of my saved documents and emails in the old back ups. Hope it don't take too long because I really want to play with it!
 
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Time for me to jump on he bandwagon. Mine came in about 6 hours ago. I only started setting it up about an hour ago (so the condensation was gone).Beautiful screen - no light bleed or single dead/stuck pixel to be found (I looked thoroughly!). I skipped migration assistant when starting it up, thinking I could just connect to my time capsule to grab certain files from my macbook pro backups but couldn"t, so now Im using the migration assistant to hopefully grab all of my saved documents and emails in the old back ups. Hope it don't take too long because I really want to play with it!


That's awesome to hear man!


I ordered another iMac as a replacement on October 30th and its expected to arrive November 10th.

I hope my screen is "perfect" as well. I'm afraid to check close because I might find something wrong with it. Fingers crossed!
 
Well mine has the 'sleep' issue - where when the computer goes to sleep - it's unable to wake up unless you do a 'hard' power off by holding the power button in for 5 seconds and then start it up again...

Trying a few more things (disable power nap etc) but otherwise this thing's going back...
 
Well mine has the 'sleep' issue - where when the computer goes to sleep - it's unable to wake up unless you do a 'hard' power off by holding the power button in for 5 seconds and then start it up again...

Trying a few more things (disable power nap etc) but otherwise this thing's going back...

That's not normal ... Mine wakes up normally from tapping my keyboard. Definitely send it back if they can't trouble shoot it.
 
Looks like after waiting weeks, mine has a damaged screen or GPU. :/ There frequently comes a line down the center-left of the screen which stays for a while and comes and goes. It persists after resetting SMC/NVRAM, happens in both Windows and OSX, and according to Google is an issue with some parts inside being loose.

I don't have an Apple Store anywhere near me, so I'm guessing I have to ship this back. Was hoping it would fix itself, but doesn't seem likely. Really disappointing after waiting so long. :/
 
Looks like after waiting weeks, mine has a damaged screen or GPU. :/ There frequently comes a line down the center-left of the screen which stays for a while and comes and goes. It persists after resetting SMC/NVRAM, happens in both Windows and OSX, and according to Google is an issue with some parts inside being loose.

I don't have an Apple Store anywhere near me, so I'm guessing I have to ship this back. Was hoping it would fix itself, but doesn't seem likely. Really disappointing after waiting so long. :/

Sorry to hear of your problems, and as well as the problems I've read from others.

On the surface my iMac seems to be perfect, but I still have some concerns. My screen seems perfect - it's extremely snappy. Honestly, performance and noise wise, I couldn't be happier. I can hardly even hear this thing when I'm running modern games, BUT, my concern is with the heat.

I got this thing to do heavy video rendering, photoshop/illustrator, heavy audio production, web design, and every now and then, some gaming. My adobe creative suite is a windows license, so I have to pay to switch that over to OS X; my rack mounted sound card needs new drivers to work with El Capitan, and my video editor is a windows version of premier, so I was looking at buying Final Cut. To summarize, all I really have to try and push this thing at the moment are some games.

In terms of performance, I think it performs really well considering it's a laptop card. In Tomb Raider I get a mix of 60 Fps that will dip to the high 40's, and that's basically the same that I get in Alien Isolation, Bioshock Infinite and BorderLands the Pre-Sequel - all with highest settings (except AA which is just FXAA) and at 1440p. The concern I have is that the GPU regularly and constantly hits 100 - 103 Celsius and depending on the game, the CPU will hit and stay at around 89 up to 101 as well.

Ive tried manual fan control, and when setting the fan at 2300 RPMs the GPU won't cross 89 degrees and the CPU in the high 70's, but it's still in the high range, and I feel like the mac should do this without me having to use 3rd party software and custom fan curves.

I called Apple to see if they knew what the safe temps were, as Googling about it for many hours got me nowhere. The tech said he didn't know so he'd try and find out. He talked to his Co-workers who said that it's normal for the iMac 5K to be anywhere between something like 50 (unsure of the low number) and 120 degrees. He wasn't specific to a part, he just said in general which doesn't tell me a whole lot. He said that I shouldn't worry unless it hit 150 degrees, because then there would be a problem, and that if there was heating issues I would experience lag and slow down, which is very true, and in the case of the GPU, I know from experience that you generally see artifacting, which I also did not experience.

That said, I am concerned about the temps still. I upgraded this iMac so that I COULD push it heavily, not just to have a pretty screen to type emails on.

I'm used to building custom PC's where the CPU never goes above 60 and GPU never above 70 under heavy loads, so the iMacs numbers are alarming to me. What's everyone else thoughts? Does anyone have any official safe temps?

I want to be able to use my iMac without worry that I'm going to burn it out. I'm most concerned about longevity - I don't want to cross the 3 year mark out of warranty to have a heavy paperweight.

Any thoughts?
 
I'm in agreement that the screen I received is perfect. Quality wise no issues. I haven't heard the fans come on under normal use at all which is great. My sleeping issue turned out to be a USB external hdd that draws all it's power from the bus and was not letting the computer sleep properly (that was the only time I've ever heard the fans - it was caught in some kind of freak power thing).

I've never cared about temps in the past. This is my 6th Mac since 2007 and never had an issue with any of them. Only because of this forum now have I installed iStat Menus to observe my temps out of curiosity.

Mine's for Audio and Photo Production. Logic Pro. I've yet to see my CPU go over 49, it's usually in the low 40's and my GPU sits at 50/49 constantly. Fan speed is a steady 1200 most of the time.

Aperture - I haven't imported any photo work onto this computer yet so no idea but I'm not worried.

Maybe PC's have changed in the past 10 years - but when I was also building custom PC's back then - The casing was much roomier, there were fans and heatsinks on the power supplies and the CPU etc, and way more venting on the case so I'd have to think they were running at lower temps overall for gaming than one of these super slim, all metal enclosed prison cells the components are in :)
 
I'm in agreement that the screen I received is perfect. Quality wise no issues. I haven't heard the fans come on under normal use at all which is great. My sleeping issue turned out to be a USB external hdd that draws all it's power from the bus and was not letting the computer sleep properly (that was the only time I've ever heard the fans - it was caught in some kind of freak power thing).

I've never cared about temps in the past. This is my 6th Mac since 2007 and never had an issue with any of them. Only because of this forum now have I installed iStat Menus to observe my temps out of curiosity.

Mine's for Audio and Photo Production. Logic Pro. I've yet to see my CPU go over 49, it's usually in the low 40's and my GPU sits at 50/49 constantly. Fan speed is a steady 1200 most of the time.

Aperture - I haven't imported any photo work onto this computer yet so no idea but I'm not worried.

Maybe PC's have changed in the past 10 years - but when I was also building custom PC's back then - The casing was much roomier, there were fans and heatsinks on the power supplies and the CPU etc, and way more venting on the case so I'd have to think they were running at lower temps overall for gaming than one of these super slim, all metal enclosed prison cells the components are in :)

Those are the temps I normally have doing small things. I've done a bit of photo editing in Pixelmater 3, but nothing huge (more of a photoshop guy). Logic is something I will be pushing though once my sound card gets a new driver. It's not unusual for me to be pushing 20 or more tracks at 32 bit (float) and 96k, but I still don't think it's going to work the processor as much as big video projects or modern gaming.

You used to build PC's too; what are your thoughts on the CPU and GPU hitting 101 under stress for long periods of time? I know I'm not an anomaly because these temps seem to be the norm. Is it possible that the newer stuff is on newer kinds of material or something? Should I be concerned do you think if I'll be doing hours of stressing at these temps a day?
 
Sorry to hear of your problems, and as well as the problems I've read from others.

On the surface my iMac seems to be perfect, but I still have some concerns. My screen seems perfect - it's extremely snappy. Honestly, performance and noise wise, I couldn't be happier. I can hardly even hear this thing when I'm running modern games, BUT, my concern is with the heat.

I got this thing to do heavy video rendering, photoshop/illustrator, heavy audio production, web design, and every now and then, some gaming. My adobe creative suite is a windows license, so I have to pay to switch that over to OS X; my rack mounted sound card needs new drivers to work with El Capitan, and my video editor is a windows version of premier, so I was looking at buying Final Cut. To summarize, all I really have to try and push this thing at the moment are some games.

In terms of performance, I think it performs really well considering it's a laptop card. In Tomb Raider I get a mix of 60 Fps that will dip to the high 40's, and that's basically the same that I get in Alien Isolation, Bioshock Infinite and BorderLands the Pre-Sequel - all with highest settings (except AA which is just FXAA) and at 1440p. The concern I have is that the GPU regularly and constantly hits 100 - 103 Celsius and depending on the game, the CPU will hit and stay at around 89 up to 101 as well.

Ive tried manual fan control, and when setting the fan at 2300 RPMs the GPU won't cross 89 degrees and the CPU in the high 70's, but it's still in the high range, and I feel like the mac should do this without me having to use 3rd party software and custom fan curves.

I called Apple to see if they knew what the safe temps were, as Googling about it for many hours got me nowhere. The tech said he didn't know so he'd try and find out. He talked to his Co-workers who said that it's normal for the iMac 5K to be anywhere between something like 50 (unsure of the low number) and 120 degrees. He wasn't specific to a part, he just said in general which doesn't tell me a whole lot. He said that I shouldn't worry unless it hit 150 degrees, because then there would be a problem, and that if there was heating issues I would experience lag and slow down, which is very true, and in the case of the GPU, I know from experience that you generally see artifacting, which I also did not experience.

That said, I am concerned about the temps still. I upgraded this iMac so that I COULD push it heavily, not just to have a pretty screen to type emails on.

I'm used to building custom PC's where the CPU never goes above 60 and GPU never above 70 under heavy loads, so the iMacs numbers are alarming to me. What's everyone else thoughts? Does anyone have any official safe temps?

I want to be able to use my iMac without worry that I'm going to burn it out. I'm most concerned about longevity - I don't want to cross the 3 year mark out of warranty to have a heavy paperweight.

Any thoughts?
I don't want to say for certain, but I believe 105 degrees Celsius is usually about when the CPU would start throttling. I had a laptop a few years back that ran ridiculously hot, and was very frequently 100+ degrees. It was uncomfortable, but I don't think it causes damage. (That laptop did die though when the GPU fried literally started smoking, which I'd imagine isn't very encouraging. :p) It does seem odd that the fans wouldn't spin up to max once the CPU reaches 100 though, at the very least to prevent throttling. In theory though, throttling should prevent damage since it reduces the amount of power and therefore heat when the temperature gets too high.

I'm thinking about not sending my iMac back for the vertical line issue just yet. It's not there ~99% of the time, and I can fix it by pressing a bit on the screen with a screen cleaning cloth (only the amount of pressure you'd use when cleaning the screen). I looked it up and that's a common solution. But along with wanting to play with it for a while, in theory if I wait to send it back, there would be a chance that AppleCare would replace the iMac, potentially (though unlikely) even with a new model?
 
I don't want to say for certain, but I believe 105 degrees Celsius is usually about when the CPU would start throttling. I had a laptop a few years back that ran ridiculously hot, and was very frequently 100+ degrees. It was uncomfortable, but I don't think it causes damage. (That laptop did die though when the GPU fried literally started smoking, which I'd imagine isn't very encouraging. :p) It does seem odd that the fans wouldn't spin up to max once the CPU reaches 100 though, at the very least to prevent throttling. In theory though, throttling should prevent damage since it reduces the amount of power and therefore heat when the temperature gets too high.

I'm thinking about not sending my iMac back for the vertical line issue just yet. It's not there ~99% of the time, and I can fix it by pressing a bit on the screen with a screen cleaning cloth (only the amount of pressure you'd use when cleaning the screen). I looked it up and that's a common solution. But along with wanting to play with it for a while, in theory if I wait to send it back, there would be a chance that AppleCare would replace the iMac, potentially (though unlikely) even with a new model?

Well the cpu only ever got to over 100 a few times, and I can't remember what game that was. Most games only take it into the 70's or 80s, and when I'm just watching videos, writing code or surfing the web it's generally between 30 and 40 degrees. You are right in that a smoking GPU is not encouraging however! The GPU is the part that gets to 100 EVERY time I play a game, and I'm assuming it's own heat is also helping heat up the cpu. Then again, maybe the smartest thing to do would be to get applecare, and just before the 3 years are up, sell this for hopefully at least half or more what I paid for it, and jump into a new system with applecare - rinse and repeat.

As for your issue, if it were me, I'd get it exchanged. I know it sucks, the waiting sucks, but especially if your in the 2 week "no questions asked" return policy, I would definitely exchange it. If I would have had 1 dead pixel at the price I'm paying, I would have exchanged mine. My concern is a very grey area though, as my temps seem to echo everyone else's, and aside from that, everything seems to be perfect. As nervous as it makes me, I love my new iMac and I guess if burn out should happen, that's what apple care is for. I never went beyond 4 years with PC's in the past, so I guess 3 years with an iMac isn't so different, especially as apple products tend to retain their value. A defective screen is a different kettle of fish though, but with applecare, I guess they would still have to exchange it for you, so I guess their's no harm in keeping it and returning it only when it becomes a real problem for you.
 
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