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Mission accomplished--I don't think anyone bought a Microsoft Band.

Honestly I still believe that a pure sport band without gimmicks but great battery and GPS and an open API for bluetooth data retrieval would still have a great potential to sell.

I would have liked if Apple would have abandoned the "Watch" concept, would not call it that at all and create something really new.

From Samsung to LG to Motorola, I believe that the Watch concept is short lived, if there's nothing interesting and new with regards to technology (sensors, interoperability)

Anonymous crowd analitics would be so much fun.

People at concerts of certain demographics, daily customers in shops, all of this including a radar with people you might meet spontaneously would be interesting.

A watch with mirrored iPhone Apps is not a concept.

Being at a movie theatre, wanting to meet 5 random 20-25 people for a drink would be fun. Click your watch, send a beacon for 3 minutes and meet new people to talk about the movie.

Twitter, Facebook and phone calls are on my phone already.
 
I didn't read the whole post or most of the responses, but I'll just say you could have stopped obsessing and watching the forums without actually canceling your order.

At any rate, as long as you are happy with your decision, that's all that matters.
 
Preface: I originally pre-ordered the watch as a new tech gadget for myself, fully aware that I am buying a watch foremost and anything else on top is gravy. I already had experience with the watch SDK and saw the limitations clear as day, so expectations were low.

My hope is that they were going to release another SDK for everyone to develop and play with before WWDC 2015. Doesn't seem to be the case at all.

I developed a couple of apps that were a spinoff of another iPad and iPhone application I already had. Everything seemed wonderful in the simulator, but as we all know: the instruments tool is sketchy at best when you're running it against the simulator as you're using your Mac CPU/RAM/etc and not the actual hardware. My app loaded in about 1 second via simulator, and 13 seconds in real life on a friends Apple Watch. Some tweaking improved it to 6 seconds but still unacceptable.

Fast forward to preordering on April 10th. I stayed up late untill Midnight to put an order in so that I could get my new gadget on launch day to test and play with. I hate staying up late unless I'm doing my own personal coding and I usually like to have a one track mind to finish and push to source control ASAP so I can go to bed.

Anyways, April 10th Midnight comes and the website is down. Well that is wonderful! I know some people used the app and so forth but how do you think the app works? It's calling a web service. Alas, the site is down for one reason or another. Then we start to approach 12:04 when it finally comes up. I proceed to click on the Space Grey Aluminum Black Band and it has a shipment date of May 13 - May 27. Ugh, what? Launch date is April 24th. At this point I'm fairly irritated that I stayed up late and the watch isn't available as advertised. Irritated is used loosely, I should say, "raged" :mad:

So after sighing very loud and waking up my girlfriend I look at the other options and move over to the SS version. For a gen 1 device and a terrible SDK, $700? Yeah no. I talked myself out of it and went back to the SG BSB, still May 13-May 27. Ugh...Went ahead and input all of my billing details(had to update) and submitted the order.

Got the confirmation email at 12:16. No worries, went to bed figuring they gave long lead times because they were unsure of their demand and maybe it was just an error.

Fast forward to launch day and it seems like they shipped 13 watches total. Hardly anyone got theirs on launch day unless they played some game with the iphone/watch app.

Okay, I can understand hours, but we are talking about seconds and minutes. If they could not satisfy everyone who ordered within the first 30 minutes for a launch order date(April 24), what were they thinking? I saw the rumor about the haptic engine but they should of come out and made that statement to all of the people who pre ordered the device. Instead, THEY KEPT QUIET. That right there is a terrible customer experience.

So now we are a month into the pre order day and people are still wondering when their watch will ship that they ordered at 12:07. Really? 7 minutes into the pre order, and realistically 3 minutes because the store was DOWN for the first 4. Really? Sigh.

As an Apple fan and someone that really likes new gadgets, I had to just go ahead and admit that this is pathetic and I need to move on so that I can move away from this subforum and stop worrying about when my watch will arrive. It's a terrible customer experience, something that Apple prides itself in. This has hands down been the worst apple purchasing experience I have ever had. You could always say, "Why cancel? Why not just wait until you get it". That's easy to say to my girlfriend who can care less, but I'm a gadget and nerd at heart, I can't just stay away from the forums and not track when my watch is due to arrive!

And before someone says, "You knew when you were pre-ordering the ship date was May 13-27, so why are you complaining". To that, I can only respond with, I'm sorry but this time frame is unacceptable for anyone who pre-ordered within minutes of a MIDNIGHT launch 2 WEEKS before the ship date. Especially for a product that was announced in September.

Imagine you waited in line for 3 hours at the movie theater with about 100 people ahead of you for what was advertised as a 3,000 seat theater before you even GOT in line. As soon as it hit midnight, they walked up and down the line and said that only the first 10 people could watch the movie right now and the rest of us had to wait until the next day. What? I'm already here, okay let me have a ticket and maybe they'll find more seats because we were all told it was a 3,000 person theater so there must be some mistake. Fast forward to 5 hours later, only 10 people are watching the movie and they are letting in 1 person every hour.

And the people who already saw the movie are wondering why the rest of the people that are waiting in line are sour?

Apples biggest failure is ZERO communication :mad:. Auto-generated emails saying they're still working on your order is not communication I would expect from a multi billion dollar corporation.

Cheers to all!

I'll be back when the SDK is improved and there is more supply. Please expand the API and allow for native apps!!

Lol. I bought off a scalper and don't regret it one bit. You should probably do the same if you want it that bad
 
I wouldn't expect Apple to release a new SDK with WWDC right around the corner. The fall release of WatchKit was an exception to the norm, because Apple wanted at least some 3rd party apps to be available when the watch was released.

Surely there'll be new APIs announced at WWDC, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were tied to a fall release of iOS 9.

I agree but I am really really hoping they release a new SDK or at least significantly open up the sensors and give some more API love.

The other hot topic item I hope they address is the future of Swift. I learned swift but I find myself still doing most of my work in Objc C because it just works and I'm already comfortable with it(never thought I would say that after working with C# for so long haha). I just don't see the benefit of Swift yet.

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I'm sorry, I just don't sympathize. It's a watch. It's not worth all this drama. I mean, I guess if it feels good to cancel your order to show Apple who's boss, go for it, but since they're selling watches faster than they can make them, you're just making it easier for the next customer in line. It's not like you ordered 50 747's from Boeing and now are cancelling your order and deeply affecting their bottom line.

If you read the OP, that is not why I am cancelling. I am cancelling to give myself freedom from checking my CC statement, Apple Order and this subforum 10x a day hoping to see activity with my shipment. Now that it's cancelled I can go on living my life not worrying about it and just wait until they have ample stock and allow for developers to develop more freely on the device.

Apple dropped the ball here with their lack of communication and deceitful advertising before the pre-orders kicked off. Me cancelling my order doesn't impact them one bit, but rest assured there are many die hard apple fans here who are not pleased with how it's been going.

Of course if you got your watch on the launch day, then it's a different story, right :p
 
Good for you for realizing watching this forum and obsessing about a new product in high demand/low supply was not conducive to your life.

This reminds me of the first iPhone launch. I stayed away from that craziness and waited until a store within driving distance had one. I drove for hours to a neighboring state, bought the phone, and set it up while enjoying lunch. Turned out I got the last one in the tri-state area until supply stabilized.

I'm sure that in time supply/demand will equalize, and anyone who wants a watch will be able to saunter into the local Apple store, try it on, and buy it right then and there.

I'm a developer as well, though my efforts have been on Android right now. Both Apple Watch and Android Wear are in their infancy. They will grow and evolve. <insert corny horology pun here>

Cheers!

I bought the first iPhone around 7pm on launch day from the store that's 12 miles from my house. The store was almost empty when we wandered in to take a look at it.

The ease in which I purchased that phone still amazes me, after all those long lines I saw on the news.

I ordered my Apple Watch at 12:07 on launch day. I ordered my husband's watch at 12:06.

Both arrived on launch day.

I have since ordered 3 more Apple Watches. 2 because my son wanted one for his birthday and I was unsure that the 38mm SS WSB model I ordered would arrive in time, so I ordered him a 38mm SS BCB because they seemed to be shipping quickly.

I got the SS BCB on a Tuesday and the SS WSB unexpectedly popped up 2 days later. Both were ordered the last week of April and received this week.

I am returning the watch I bought on launch day because I'm not that fond of the Milanese loop having worn it for a while. I'm keeping the SS WSB for myself.

I'm waiting for UPS to deliver my husband's SS Link bracelet today that I ordered on launch day. I chose to order him a SS BSB and order the link bracelet separately because that was the option with the best shipping time.

I ordered the 38mm SS Milanese for myself at launch because, of the ones I was most interested in (the ML and the Modern Buckle) it was the one that looked like it would deliver fastest.

If I'd opted for a Modern Buckle watch, I'd still be waiting and I knew I wasn't interested in waiting that long for what was the exact same watch, save for the band.

My point is that there's no reason that anyone who ordered very early on 4/10 should not have a watch by now if they chose an option with the early shipping window 4/24-5/8.

If one ordered a watch with a longer shipping time and one doesn't have it yet, one need only blame one's self.

Apple announced supply constraints prior to launch and they published those shipping windows right there on their website. I've yet to hear of a missed shipping window that didn't have some complicated issue tied to it, like a declined credit card, canceled order, or some such.

Yes, it would've been really cool if they'd had all models ready at launch, but we are only 2 weeks into launch and it looks like all but the Modern Buckle bands are in existence and starting to ship, so I don't really see the catastrophe that people are going on about.

There's not one. If you want a 42mm SG Sport watch, you'll have to wait for it or just give up and get it later when supplies are well established.

If anyone didn't see that one being the most popular sport model, they lacked critical thinking skills. Apple has sold a TON of those.

So, when your ship date is pushed out, you can wait, order another model, or get huffy and take your toys and head on home.

The drama on this forum is truly amazing sometimes. LOL.

I wanted a Modern Buckle. I'm still wondering what's up with those bands. Meanwhile, I'm getting a real kick out of using the watch itself. It's been really fun so far.
 
My point is that there's no reason that anyone who ordered very early on 4/10 should not have a watch by now if they chose an option with the early shipping window 4/24-5/8.

If one ordered a watch with a longer shipping time and one doesn't have it yet, one need only blame one's self.

THIS.

What really makes no sense to me is to see the shipping window, buy the watch anyway, and the get upset that it doesn't arrive BEFORE the shipping window.

Basically, the OP bought the ticket to the 7pm movie showing and is now angry that the folks who bought the 5pm tickets got to see the movie first.
 
Joined forum because of this response, not usually a forum reader for tech.

Welcome to Apple.

Please wait while I connect you with an Apple Sales Specialist.

Now Chatting with charnette

I thought the watch was going to be available on April 24th? Is there something wrong with my order?

Hey there!

Happy Wednesday! I would be delighted to assist you with our Apple Watch!

I am happy to explain it to you!

That is correct that it is available April 24th! This means that you no longer have to preorder here online and that it is now available for purchase. It does not mean that it is available within the local Apple stores though. So sorry for the confusion!

Hmm. I see the advertisements saying it is here, and you say it is available April 24th, and I preordered April 11, so I am wondering if my order got missed as I do not have it yet.

I am so sorry for the confusion! On April 24th you no longer have to preorder the watch. When you ordered on April 11th you preordered it before it was available on April 24th. This was not stating that you will receive your order on April 24th. So sorry!

wow, I am confused. Is there a problem with my order?

I am happy to check for you! Would you happen to have your order number?

Wxxxxxxxx
Thanks! Give me one sec to pull your order up

Got it! May I have the name and billing address for security reasons?

xxxxxxxxxx

Thanks a bunch! I show no issues with your order at all! How it works is that as it gets closer to that time you will receive a email with the actual shipping and delivery dates.

Then, once it ships out you will receive a email confirmation along with the tracking number so that you can see the actual delivery date.

Wow, I thought it would be available on April 24th because that is what I saw on all the adds and web site. Weird. You are saying I won't get it until much later?

Yes, that is correct! The April 24th date stating available means that you no longer had to preorder the watch.

Well ok, Apple sure confused me with this one! Can I get one in stores?

I wish that you could but it has not yet been released for purchase within the local Apple stores. So sorry!

Weird...ok I guess I will go back to being confused. I have always been able to buy your products on the day of release. I thought April 24 was the date they were available. I did not see anything about it being a date of Pre-order cut offs. .

I am so sorry for the confusion! It was indeed available as of April 24th for purchase here online only without having to preorder.

Thanks for telling my order is OK. I really don't understand how Apple is working this, but that is my problem I guess. Thanks for your explanation, but I don't understand. have a good day
 
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Please wait while I connect you with an Apple Sales Specialist.

Now Chatting with charnette

I thought the watch was going to be available on April 24th? Is there something wrong with my order?

Hey there!

Happy Wednesday! I would be delighted to assist you with our Apple Watch!

I am happy to explain it to you!

That is correct that it is available April 24th! This means that you no longer have to preorder here online and that it is now available for purchase. It does not mean that it is available within the local Apple stores though. So sorry for the confusion!

Hmm. I see the advertisements saying it is here, and you say it is available April 24th, and I preordered April 11, so I am wondering if my order got missed as I do not have it yet.

I am so sorry for the confusion! On April 24th you no longer have to preorder the watch. When you ordered on April 11th you preordered it before it was available on April 24th. This was not stating that you will receive your order on April 24th. So sorry!

wow, I am confused. Is there a problem with my order?

I am happy to check for you! Would you happen to have your order number?

Wxxxxxxxx
Thanks! Give me one sec to pull your order up

Got it! May I have the name and billing address for security reasons?

xxxxxxxxxx

Thanks a bunch! I show no issues with your order at all! How it works is that as it gets closer to that time you will receive a email with the actual shipping and delivery dates.

Then, once it ships out you will receive a email confirmation along with the tracking number so that you can see the actual delivery date.

Wow, I thought it would be available on April 24th because that is what I saw on all the adds and web site. Weird. You are saying I won't get it until much later?

Yes, that is correct! The April 24th date stating available means that you no longer had to preorder the watch.

Well ok, Apple sure confused me with this one! Can I get one in stores?

I wish that you could but it has not yet been released for purchase within the local Apple stores. So sorry!

Weird...ok I guess I will go back to being confused. I have always been able to buy your products on the day of release. I thought April 24 was the date they were available. I did not see anything about it being a date of Pre-order cut offs. .

I am so sorry for the confusion! It was indeed available as of April 24th for purchase here online only without having to preorder.

Thanks for telling my order is OK. I really don't understand how Apple is working this, but that is my problem I guess. Thanks for your explanation, but I don't understand. have a good day

LOL!

That was actually quite amusing to read. I feel bad for their customer service agents who are probably getting crushed right now with no fault of their own.
 
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Weird...ok I guess I will go back to being confused. I have always been able to buy your products on the day of release. I thought April 24 was the date they were available. I did not see anything about it being a date of Pre-order cut offs. .

I am so sorry for the confusion! It was indeed available as of April 24th for purchase here online only without having to preorder.

Love this! Too funny.

And the explanation is so stupid. What's the difference between a "preorder" and not "having to preorder" if neither is shipping!? As far as I'm concerned, they're all "preorders" until you can buy without delay.

Apple played the Watch launch like Kickstarter, except worse, because earlier adopters get perks with the typical Kickstarter campaign. For a company with 170+ BILLION dollars laying around, I'd like to expect better.
 
Love this! Too funny.

And the explanation is so stupid. What's the difference between a "preorder" and not "having to preorder" if neither is shipping!? As far as I'm concerned, they're all "preorders" until you can buy without delay.

Apple played the Watch launch like Kickstarter, except worse, because earlier adopters get perks with the typical Kickstarter campaign. For a company with 170+ BILLION dollars laying around, I'd like to expect better.

I feel like maybe they've just become so big that it's hard to keep all the chess pieces in place at the right spot and at the right time.

Logistics is quite complicated especially worldwide. THey just should be upfront about the situation to calm people down, instead they stay silent like a congressman that did something illegal/bad and wants everyone to forget
 
I bet the order experience of a Boing 747 is way more customer friendly and involves more communication.

Having said that, I have never considered buying a passenger plane because I don't like the aluminum. A stainless steel version was not available.

Go for the carbon fiber version :cool:
 
What, exactly, has Apple failed to deliver upon? Until somebody misses a delivery window promised at the time of order, I don't see the slightest issue with the way Apple has handled this launch.

The only deviation I've seen is that Apple has somehow managed to accelerate the delivery of watches in many cases, providing them *before* they were initially promised.
 
Meanwhile in some parts of the world people are lining up for hours for food so that they can feed their family for the day.
 
What, exactly, has Apple failed to deliver upon? Until somebody misses a delivery window promised at the time of order, I don't see the slightest issue with the way Apple has handled this launch.

"The Apple Watch won't be available on April 24"

http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/16/technology/apple-watch-april-24/

'Apple removed the April 24 availability date from its website, and an Apple Store employee confirmed that the Watch would not be available for sale on that day.'

Many of us that pre-ordered were expecting April 24th we would have the watch. I'm sorry if it isn't clear.
 
It doesn't really seem fair to say that Apple did not communicate… Just because we all labeled the communication an "email of death" doesn't mean that's actually what it was… It was them communicating and reiterating the expectations that they displayed at the launch, no doubt anticipating the fact that many people were expecting to get it on launch day when they didn't have the inventory for that.

I agree about your concerns re/ the SDK but that's about it
 
I agree but I am really really hoping they release a new SDK or at least significantly open up the sensors and give some more API love.

The other hot topic item I hope they address is the future of Swift. I learned swift but I find myself still doing most of my work in Objc C because it just works and I'm already comfortable with it(never thought I would say that after working with C# for so long haha). I just don't see the benefit of Swift yet.

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If you read the OP, that is not why I am cancelling. I am cancelling to give myself freedom from checking my CC statement, Apple Order and this subforum 10x a day hoping to see activity with my shipment. Now that it's cancelled I can go on living my life not worrying about it and just wait until they have ample stock and allow for developers to develop more freely on the device.

Apple dropped the ball here with their lack of communication and deceitful advertising before the pre-orders kicked off. Me cancelling my order doesn't impact them one bit, but rest assured there are many die hard apple fans here who are not pleased with how it's been going.

Of course if you got your watch on the launch day, then it's a different story, right :p

If you really wanted the damn watch so badly u should have stayed up all night and ordered exactly when the ore orders went live! Your whole post just reeks of sour grapes. I woke up at 7am (UK time) and ordered immediately - and received my watch on launch day. So why did u not? Apple does not owe you any type of communication. Would Samsung communicate with you? You are nothing but a consumer, deal with it.
 
"The Apple Watch won't be available on April 24"

http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/16/technology/apple-watch-april-24/

'Apple removed the April 24 availability date from its website, and an Apple Store employee confirmed that the Watch would not be available for sale on that day.'

Many of us that pre-ordered were expecting April 24th we would have the watch. I'm sorry if it isn't clear.

This doesn't have anything to do with online preorders… Some people did get those on the 24th. This was whether you would be able to order in store, which they did back out on
 
"The Apple Watch won't be available on April 24"

http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/16/technology/apple-watch-april-24/

'Apple removed the April 24 availability date from its website, and an Apple Store employee confirmed that the Watch would not be available for sale on that day.'

Many of us that pre-ordered were expecting April 24th we would have the watch. I'm sorry if it isn't clear.

When you placed your order did you receive a delivery date of April 24 from Apple? I'm going to assume no as nobody got a specific date.
 
If you really wanted the damn watch so badly u should have stayed up all night and ordered exactly when the ore orders went live! Your whole post just reeks of sour grapes. I woke up at 7am (UK time) and ordered immediately - and received my watch on launch day. So why did u not? Apple does not owe you any type of communication. Would Samsung communicate with you? You are nothing but a consumer, deal with it.

I did stay up until Midnight, that's the PROBLEM!
Re-posting from OP:

Fast forward to preordering on April 10th. I stayed up late untill Midnight to put an order in so that I could get my new gadget on launch day to test and play with. I hate staying up late unless I'm doing my own personal coding and I usually like to have a one track mind to finish and push to source control ASAP so I can go to bed.

Anyways, April 10th Midnight comes and the website is down. Well that is wonderful! I know some people used the app and so forth but how do you think the app works? It's calling a web service. Alas, the site is down for one reason or another. Then we start to approach 12:04 when it finally comes up. I proceed to click on the Space Grey Aluminum Black Band and it has a shipment date of May 13 - May 27. Ugh, what? Launch date is April 24th. At this point I'm fairly irritated that I stayed up late and the watch isn't available as advertised. Irritated is used loosely, I should say, "raged"


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When you placed your order did you receive a delivery date of April 24 from Apple? I'm going to assume no as nobody got a specific date.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1853469/

"Apple announced on Monday that the Apple Watch will be available in nine countries beginning April 24, with pre-orders starting on April 10."

I'm sure all of us here who were going to stay up to midnight to pre-order figured that the watch was actually going to be available in the middle of May, June or even July :eek:


:rolleyes:
 
I got up to pee at 4:30 am EST on 4/10 and checked the app on my phone. Shipping in June?!?! Uh fine... I'm an ass who has to have an Apple watch. I place my order. Fast-forward to 4/23 and I get an email form UPS to expect a delivery from Apple the following day and shipping notification from Apple. I was pleasantly surprised.

Although, I got my 6+ sooner than their estimate as well. :)
 
What, exactly, has Apple failed to deliver upon? Until somebody misses a delivery window promised at the time of order, I don't see the slightest issue with the way Apple has handled this launch.

The only deviation I've seen is that Apple has somehow managed to accelerate the delivery of watches in many cases, providing them *before* they were initially promised.

So it would be ok if they all started with a shipping window of "2017"? Can't complain until 1/1/2018, they did nothing wrong!
 
I developed a couple of apps that were a spinoff of another iPad and iPhone application I already had. Everything seemed wonderful in the simulator, but as we all know: the instruments tool is sketchy at best when you're running it against the simulator as you're using your Mac CPU/RAM/etc and not the actual hardware. My app loaded in about 1 second via simulator, and 13 seconds in real life on a friends Apple Watch. Some tweaking improved it to 6 seconds but still unacceptable.

That is interesting, I had the opposite experience. Did you get to play with real hardware for a good debugging session or just try one? (I assume you tried real hardware, or how would you know its slow I suppose?)

I found that the simulator did a poor job of conveying the app's lifecycle. I had a large portion of an app ready to go when I finally got hardware (i ran out of patience, and paid 100 bucks extra to get one on craigslist, to get my app done not-in-late-june heh) and once I had real hardware I had several "aha" moments with the documentation that didn't really make sense in the simulator.

So now I primarily only use real hardware to do watch dev on, and I've found that it seems a bit faster than the simulator. I know apple inserts artificial lag in the simulator so you build to expect some lag. I found moving data in advanced to the extension via app groups pretty much removes any long loading time completely.

Anyways, I hear you on the frustration. Hopefully you will still get your apps out there!
 
Since he was delayed by Apple's website, perhaps a better analogy is that everyone got in line as the movie tickets went on sale, but he unfortunately picked the slow cashier.

For the analogy to be complete, the OP would had to have picked the slow cashier, refused to look at the other lines that were moving faster, and then accuse people who had the wherewithal to use a faster line of playing games.

If you read the OP, that is not why I am cancelling. I am cancelling to give myself freedom from checking my CC statement, Apple Order and this subforum 10x a day hoping to see activity with my shipment. Now that it's cancelled I can go on living my life not worrying about it and just wait until they have ample stock and allow for developers to develop more freely on the device.

So you're saying that if you have an order, you feel compelled to check it, and your CC statement, and this forum multiple times a day? And this is Apple's fault? And not having the order is the solution? How about having the order and not obsessively checking and then being pleasantly surprised when you do get the notification?
 
For the analogy to be complete, the OP would had to have picked the slow cashier, refused to look at the other lines that were moving faster, and then accuse people who had the wherewithal to use a faster line of playing games.

yes :cool:
 
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