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Canon who? Nikon D70 Outspecs the "Rebel"

Originally posted by Moxiemike
You got it right about the tool and the user.

I gotta say though, I think you'll dig the D70 and it's feature set. Put some good nikon glass... and BOOM!

Who are you using for reprints? I have an interesting (if you didn't know about it) recommendation... lemme know if you want it.

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recommendations?

sure always ... i've taken it to a few pro labs ... and wasn't 100% satisfied ... i found i get the best results from Blacks' a chain of photo processing labs ... the location i go to i have a friend that works there and takes all his wedding work to process for himself ... and he's set up the machines to really get a top notch print result ...

but i'm open for suggestions ... but remember i'm in Canada so we might have different places
 
Originally posted by revenuee
recommendations?

sure always ... i've taken it to a few pro labs ... and wasn't 100% satisfied ... i found i get the best results from Blacks' a chain of photo processing labs ... the location i go to i have a friend that works there and takes all his wedding work to process for himself ... and he's set up the machines to really get a top notch print result ...

but i'm open for suggestions ... but remember i'm in Canada so we might have different places
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Shutterfly.com actually has GREAT prints and some awesome capabilities for ecommerce reprinting. Check it out on their page
 
thanks guys for clearing up my ccd/cmos issue :)

Moxie ... the lens that comes with the rebel cannot be used on anything right? but other canon lens can be used with the rebel... i think in an earlier post you said something about using the rebel lens on another back...


and me, personally, am gonna stick it out for canon's 10d replacement :)
 
Originally posted by evoluzione
thanks guys for clearing up my ccd/cmos issue :)

Moxie ... the lens that comes with the rebel cannot be used on anything right? but other canon lens can be used with the rebel... i think in an earlier post you said something about using the rebel lens on another back...


and me, personally, am gonna stick it out for canon's 10d replacement :)
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I might have... but no. The kit lens can on be used on the rebel. But the rebel can take any lens.

I'd just grab that 1d MK II. :) Only $4500!
 
Originally posted by evoluzione
i were just looking at that...if i had the $4g (i'm sure broadway photo in brooklyn will have it for around 4 even) i'd get it for sure, could even rent that sucker out too, get some cash back on it...

hmm...
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bh and adorama do a rent to own dealie.

That cam.... is SWEET

I'm just waiting to see what happens with the D2x... might be my next purchase.
 
Its great that nikon and the D70 are giving the market a push in the right direction. I believe it will sell allot to many people especially people that are on the fence to go to DSLR. My only concerns are..

Does the D70 have a battery pack grip extender? Some people don't need the extra battery life but in fact actually need a grip like I.Also I heard that it doesn't even have a Metal subframe. I wonder how if would feel in my hands. Only time will tell. To be quite honest tell you the truth I don't think I will buy one but am glad it's being released.
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Shutterfly.com actually has GREAT prints and some awesome capabilities for ecommerce reprinting. Check it out on their page
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sweetness. cool borders and other options. can't hurt to sign up and get 15 freebies eh?

i had been using snapfish... just ordered my free 13 prints so ill see how they come out.


question about these types of places in general... when you order a larger print (ie, 8x10+), how does it come to you? i guess in some form that protects it quite well eh? haven't found a picture yet that i want that big, but i'm sure it'll happen eventually...
 
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
sweetness. cool borders and other options. can't hurt to sign up and get 15 freebies eh?

i had been using snapfish... just ordered my free 13 prints so ill see how they come out.


question about these types of places in general... when you order a larger print (ie, 8x10+), how does it come to you? i guess in some form that protects it quite well eh? haven't found a picture yet that i want that big, but i'm sure it'll happen eventually...
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Very sturdy envelopes. and you get 'em in like, 3 days
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Shutterfly.com actually has GREAT prints and some awesome capabilities for ecommerce reprinting. Check it out on their page
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I've been using dotphoto.com for about 2 years and have had excellent results. Top quality printing and some of the cheapest prices on the net. It's a free service but if you pay $4.99/month your prices drop (a 4"x6" is now just $.19). Plus they add free 4"x6" prints to your account each month. You can then also set prices for others to reprint and dotphoto will cut you a check for the difference.

Anyway, I've been an Olympus E-10 user for two years and think the D70 is finally the camera to get me to upgrade.
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
$3.99 i think

I get a discount for buying web hosting for "professional" reprinting.

So for me it's like, $2
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not bad.

i'll get in touch with you so i can use your account for discount prints... hahah

where's my hot dog pictures?!?!? ;)
 
Oh wow ... i'm get robbed blind here in Canada on photo prices

the D70 at my local pro dealer is estimated to be 1600 CND ... compare that to 999$ american .. after conversion is still about 1300 ... so 300 more ... not to mention that your taxes are less

i've been looking at prices for lenses aswell some of these lenses are almost 40 % more even after conversation

looks like i'm going to be ordering my toys online from now on
 
Sorry to double post ... but here is the set up i've decided to go for ...

Nikon D70
Sigma 24- 70 mm 2.8 EX
Sigma 12-24 mm 4.5 - 5.6 EX or Sigma 17 - 35 mm 2.8 - 4 EX
Sigma 105 mm Macro EX
Sigma 50- 500 mm 4 - 6.3 EX

i really like Sigma EX glass ... i find it comparable to Nikon Pro glass for a lot less money (even though i've made a little money, i still consider myself very much amateur)

My question is more or less if anyone has any opinions on any of this gear, or wants to suggest alternatives .. i'm happy to listen
 
I would wait till the D70 is in the hands of others before deciding on it. Though i doubt Nikon would pull a Sony..828.. ie. dpreviews sony forums section.

But it might be worth your while to get a D100 for around 900 or less after the d70 is released. After all the D100 will continue to take the same great pictures for years to come. With all these cost effective designs coming out.. something has to be traded off. well usually.
 
Originally posted by revenuee
Sorry to double post ... but here is the set up i've decided to go for ...

Nikon D70
Sigma 24- 70 mm 2.8 EX
Sigma 12-24 mm 4.5 - 5.6 EX or Sigma 17 - 35 mm 2.8 - 4 EX
Sigma 105 mm Macro EX
Sigma 50- 500 mm 4 - 6.3 EX

i really like Sigma EX glass ... i find it comparable to Nikon Pro glass for a lot less money (even though i've made a little money, i still consider myself very much amateur)

My question is more or less if anyone has any opinions on any of this gear, or wants to suggest alternatives .. i'm happy to listen
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You've made two EXCELLENT choices in the 105mm Macro and the 50-500 zoom. That 105 macro is sharper than sharp. it's an incredible value. I'd have also added a nikon or sigma 50mm prime to the list, but that's just me.

The 17-35 2.8-4 has seen some weird reviewing. I know the 15-30 3.5-4.5 has gotten some excellent reviews, and samples i've seen have been killer. My nikon 18-35 is amazing too. And in the price range. You might want to look into one of those as opposed to the 17-35 sigma... check the reviews section on www.fredmiranda.com

I definitely want to know your thoughts on the sigma 12-24 when you get it. That's my next possible purchase. So i'm VERY curious. :)

The 24-70 is also a very solid performer but big and heavy. Then again, compared to the 50-500.....it'll feel light as a feather.

I think overall you made some killer lens choices. the 105mm gives you a nice, fast telephoto prime for fast shooting, that 50-500 is gonna do you well in the sports realm, and with possible exception of the 17-35, your wide angle choices basically give you full coverage, from 18mm all the way to 750! Wow.

I'm also curious as to your experience with the D70. My buddy is gonna trade his rebel in on one, so it should be interesting to see the differences. He's psyched, just because he gets to use my glass now. Heh.

Good luck with that purchase!
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
You've made two EXCELLENT choices in the 105mm Macro and the 50-500 zoom. That 105 macro is sharper than sharp. it's an incredible value. I'd have also added a nikon or sigma 50mm prime to the list, but that's just me.

The 17-35 2.8-4 has seen some weird reviewing. I know the 15-30 3.5-4.5 has gotten some excellent reviews, and samples i've seen have been killer. My nikon 18-35 is amazing too. And in the price range. You might want to look into one of those as opposed to the 17-35 sigma... check the reviews section on www.fredmiranda.com

I definitely want to know your thoughts on the sigma 12-24 when you get it. That's my next possible purchase. So i'm VERY curious. :)

The 24-70 is also a very solid performer but big and heavy. Then again, compared to the 50-500.....it'll feel light as a feather.

I think overall you made some killer lens choices. the 105mm gives you a nice, fast telephoto prime for fast shooting, that 50-500 is gonna do you well in the sports realm, and with possible exception of the 17-35, your wide angle choices basically give you full coverage, from 18mm all the way to 750! Wow.

I'm also curious as to your experience with the D70. My buddy is gonna trade his rebel in on one, so it should be interesting to see the differences. He's psyched, just because he gets to use my glass now. Heh.

Good luck with that purchase!
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well i've been reading good things about that 12 - 24 ... i mean at 12 mm unless you purchase a very expensive rectilinear lens ... minor distortions are to be expected at the edges but since the D70 with it's 1.5 will crop the edges anyway so thats less to worry about ... i've read great reviews of it .... i want the 12 - 24 over the 17 - 35 for the same reason since once i throw it on the D70 ( or any nikon DSLR i'm going to automatically go up in vocal length equivalency. it's a little more money ... but i think it's worth it for the wider lens.


as far as wieght well it might be a pit of a sturggle on hikes ... but my biggest enjoyment is photographing wild life an flowers and incects so that 750 mm and that 150 mm Macro (after 1.5 crop) will be awsome for stacking those easily spooked birds and mammals.

i did a run on pricing for all this

the 105 , 12 - 24, 2 4 - 70 and 50 - 500 along with the D70 body and got a price of 3360$ .... i currently have 2300 put away for a major purchase like this so i think i'm going to go with the body and the 105 and 12 - 24 at first because i already have a 35 -80 and 100 - 300 that i use ... but these are low quaility glass so i want to upgrade those ... but i want the range first

thanks for your advice man

i also wantedd to add that after throwing some numbers around i discovered that if i buy all this in the US like i plan to i save 1234.34 CND ... thats like 800$ USD ... thats money i can put to some other major purchase.
 
Originally posted by revenuee
well i've been reading good things about that 12 - 24 ... i mean at 12 mm unless you purchase a very expensive rectilinear lens ... minor distortions are to be expected at the edges but since the D70 with it's 1.5 will crop the edges anyway so thats less to worry about ... i've read great reviews of it .... i want the 12 - 24 over the 17 - 35 for the same reason since once i throw it on the D70 ( or any nikon DSLR i'm going to automatically go up in vocal length equivalency. it's a little more money ... but i think it's worth it for the wider lens.


as far as wieght well it might be a pit of a sturggle on hikes ... but my biggest enjoyment is photographing wild life an flowers and incects so that 750 mm and that 150 mm Macro (after 1.5 crop) will be awsome for stacking those easily spooked birds and mammals.

i did a run on pricing for all this

the 105 , 12 - 24, 2 4 - 70 and 50 - 500 along with the D70 body and got a price of 3360$ .... i currently have 2300 put away for a major purchase like this so i think i'm going to go with the body and the 105 and 12 - 24 at first because i already have a 35 -80 and 100 - 300 that i use ... but these are low quaility glass so i want to upgrade those ... but i want the range first

thanks for your advice man

i also wantedd to add that after throwing some numbers around i discovered that if i buy all this in the US like i plan to i save 1234.34 CND ... thats like 800$ USD ... thats money i can put to some other major purchase.
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Just noticed:

12-24 with 1.5 crop = 18-36
17-35 with 1.5 crop = 27-53
24-70 with 1.5 crop = 36-105

You really don't need the coverage of the middle lens in that case, unless you're planning on using it on a film body. But that duplication... i'd just get the 12-24 and 24-70 and be done with that range, maybe do a 50mm prime ($100 USD for the nikon) and have a sweet setup there.

That 12--24 doesn;'t need to be "fast" in that you'll mostly do landscapes, and the 24-70 is fast at 2.8 and a good performer. The 50mm becomes a nice low light lense, and compliments your 105 for nice low weight setup (just take those two out sometime!) and your big "sports shooting" lens... you're covered.

Spend the 17-35mm money on, say, and SB-800dx flash! :D
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Just noticed:

12-24 with 1.5 crop = 18-36
17-35 with 1.5 crop = 27-53
24-70 with 1.5 crop = 36-105

You really don't need the coverage of the middle lens in that case, unless you're planning on using it on a film body. But that duplication... i'd just get the 12-24 and 24-70 and be done with that range, maybe do a 50mm prime ($100 USD for the nikon) and have a sweet setup there.

That 12--24 doesn;'t need to be "fast" in that you'll mostly do landscapes, and the 24-70 is fast at 2.8 and a good performer. The 50mm becomes a nice low light lense, and compliments your
105 for nice low weight setup (just take those two out sometime!) and your big "sports shooting" lens... you're covered.

Spend the 17-35mm money on, say, and SB-800dx flash! :D
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well acctually it was between the 12 - 24 and the 17- 35 ... not both ... i wanted one or the other and decided that i'll go with the 12 - 24 for more wide angle range.

and i wanted to add something

http://www.nikonusa.com/fileuploads/gallery/D70/D70_gallery.html#

this has some nice shots taken with the D70
 
Originally posted by revenuee
well acctually it was between the 12 - 24 and the 17- 35 ... not both ... i wanted one or the other and decided that i'll go with the 12 - 24 for more wide angle range.

and i wanted to add something

http://www.nikonusa.com/fileuploads/gallery/D70/D70_gallery.html#

this has some nice shots taken with the D70
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Yea. More impressive to me is the performance of the Nikon 12-24mm....Could make me wanna buy that one, and sell my 18-35.....

AND it's AF-s too though a bit slowish


Mwahahahaaaa.
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Yea. More impressive to me is the performance of the Nikon 12-24mm....Could make me wanna buy that one, and sell my 18-35.....

AND it's AF-s too though a bit slowish


Mwahahahaaaa.
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where do you go to find low prices for your glass

so far i've been looking at B&H photo ... but when i read review and see the "piad" i notice the people get really good prices on their equipment .... enlighten me please ... i'm tired of over paying
 
one other thing ...

i which is the better lens ... the 24 - 70 EX or the 28 - 70 EX ?
 
Originally posted by revenuee
one other thing ...

i which is the better lens ... the 24 - 70 EX or the 28 - 70 EX ?
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People seem to like the 24-70 better than the 28-70 sigma. Looks like the 28-70 is discontinued.

Have you looked at the Nikon 24-85G lens? It's a bit slower at f3.5-4.5 but is INCREDIBLY sharp and is around $300 after a $50 rebate.

USD of course. ;)

BH is VERY good, and the prices are great, you could even buy the import Nikon stuff and save...as you won't be covered by a US warranty anyway.

At that point, i think the 24-85 nikon is around $309 either US warranty or import.

The 24-85 has been a great performer for me, and has the AF-s (similar to sigma's HSM). REALLY sharp pics... as sharp as the Nikon 28-70 f2.8!

A sample of the 24-85

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nice pic

but the one thing about the sigma is that they are slightly faster lenses ... i travel quite a bit with my camera and i'm in church's/buildings where flash is not permitted.

thoughts?

EDIT : then again shooting from a tripod or even a unipod is the way i should work ... not to mention that i should be using a a smaller aperture to get more detail ...

i guess i answered my own question ...

hmm ... i must say though the 15-30 seems to get me interested
 
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