Car Consortium That Includes Apple Announces Digital Car Key Specification for Smartphones

[fairuz]

I foresee a problem with this; one scenario: on the odd occasion you may get pulled over for a traffic stop, and the officer asks for your license, registration, and proof of insurance, and frequently takes these items back to their vehicle while they check out who you are and who the vehicle belongs to (and such verification is perfectly reasonable). I'd feel comfortable handing the officer my drivers license (well, as comfortable as one can feel in such circumstances), because the only thing it is is identification, but I would very much not be willing to hand my phone over to a law enforcement officer to take it out of my view for an unspecified period of time, beca

Being able to pull up my drivers license in Apple Wallet to show at the occasional store or other place that wants proof of ID/age wouldn't bother me, but I'd carry my physical drivers license card to hand to law enforcement officials who wanted to see/examine my identification. I don't hand my phone to anyone except those with whom I have trust built up through a longstanding personal relationship (I'll hand my phone to my niece so she can DJ from the back seat, because she knows the limits I've specified and will hand the phone back whenever I ask - I can't trust the motivations of random government officials in the same way).

A digital driver's license doesn't have to require you to hand over your phone. Might be that you authorize the officer's phone to see your license through some service on the internet, maybe by scanning a code. I don't know how they've implemented it.

 

[dontwalkhand]

I foresee a problem with this; one scenario: on the odd occasion you may get pulled over for a traffic stop, and the officer asks for your license, registration, and proof of insurance, and frequently takes these items back to their vehicle while they check out who you are and who the vehicle belongs to (and such verification is perfectly reasonable). I'd feel comfortable handing the officer my drivers license (well, as comfortable as one can feel in such circumstances), because the only thing it is is identification, but I would very much not be willing to hand my phone over to a law enforcement officer to take it out of my view for an unspecified period of time, beca

Being able to pull up my drivers license in Apple Wallet to show at the occasional store or other place that wants proof of ID/age wouldn't bother me, but I'd carry my physical drivers license card to hand to law enforcement officials who wanted to see/examine my identification. I don't hand my phone to anyone except those with whom I have trust built up through a longstanding personal relationship (I'll hand my phone to my niece so she can DJ from the back seat, because she knows the limits I've specified and will hand the phone back whenever I ask - I can't trust the motivations of random government officials in the same way).

One of the features of the mDL is the QR code the officer or store will scan, and they’re not allowed to touch your phone. It is outlined in the pilot program for AZ. They mention it’ll work just like most mobile bus passes do, they’ll be an animation to visually verify it’s authenticity and a code for an officer to scan to pull up the info on their own devices. If the credential is expired it’ll let them know right away. Same with if it’s suspended.

Even when I got pulled over and I tried to hand the officer my phone for insurance he mentioned he wasn’t allowed to touch the phone, so just hold it up so he can read it real quick. He also made me exit out and reopen the app to make sure it was inside of an official insurance app not a picture.

Not sure about other states. But I’m sure the main reason is they don’t want to be held liable if they drop your $1000 iPhone X

 

[CarlJ]

One of the features of the mDL is the QR code the officer or store will scan, and they’re not allowed to touch your phone. It is outlined in the pilot program for AZ. They mention it’ll work just like most mobile bus passes do, they’ll be an animation to visually verify it’s authenticity and a code for an officer to scan to pull up the info on their own devices.

Ah, thanks for the info and the graphic - sounds like they thought this through better than many technological things the government touches.

(They could make it so QR code scanners could have better verification that it wasn't just an image if, instead of coding just your license number, they encoded license number along with a cryptographic hash of the license number and current time, to the nearest minute, so the QR code displayed would change every 60 seconds, like a 2FA code.)

 

[name99]

Tesla works on presence of the Bluetooth signal of your iPhone (at least with Model 3). Because of this you don’t need the Apple Watch extension.

Uh... Someone said you can use an Apple WATCH to unlock a Tesla. I asked how.
You are NOT answering the question to say "you don't need a watch, you can use a phone"! I know full well you can use a phone; I said so in my original post.

The entire point of my post was the WATCH aspect...