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COMPLETELY UNFAIR AND FAILED TEST!!!

Jacub W. pronounced "Yacub(p) using Siri, THEN pronouncing it "Jacob" on Android will OBVIOUSLY work in Androids favor.
I guarantee Android Auto would also have no idea who "Yacub(p)" is!

Wow, I am shocked how unfair that test was.
Seriously, use Android Auto, make a contact for Jacub and ask it to call "Yacub(p)" good luck making the call.
****ing dummies!!!!

I understand that using different pronunciations does make it an inadequate test. Ideally they would have used both pronunciations for both systems. HOWEVER, siri very clearly did pronounce the name "Yacub", so you would think she would understand Yacub better than Jacob. But you never can assume anything with Siri....
 
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That video is a vey poor example. Not sure why MacRumors chooses to keep including it in posts.

Jakeb = "Jay-keb"... but he was pronouncing it very differently. Not Siri's fault.
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I use that query every day, and the result is perfect every time.
And that's yes, hence the failings of Siri. Is inconsistent and for many people cannot seem to give right answers, even when it apparently does understand what I'm saying.

It may work amazingly for you, but there is enough evidence out there, even in apples own words that Siri doesn't live up to where it should be

Yet Apple still can't seem to move it forward despite the resources at its disposal
 
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I am completely unhappy with CarPlay. Totally pissed.

But it's not Apple that I aim my rather minuscule wrath at, it's Toyota that refuses to use CarPlay that I take aim at!

COME ON PEOPLE!!! I dumped my Prius partly because it wouldn't play with my iPhone/iPod. We NEED/DEMAND a Carplay head unit for the Toyotas we love!!!
 
I am completely unhappy with CarPlay. Totally pissed.

But it's not Apple that I aim my rather minuscule wrath at, it's Toyota that refuses to use CarPlay that I take aim at!

COME ON PEOPLE!!! I dumped my Prius partly because it wouldn't play with my iPhone/iPod. We NEED/DEMAND a Carplay head unit for the Toyotas we love!!!

Oh hell yes.

My camry's infotainment unit is horrible. Toyota does many things right, but not their software.

I might not like Siri and it often gets things wrong, but Toyota in dash navigation is absolutely mind numbingly stupid.

Then they have the gall to demands $200 to update the maps, which were already 2 years out of date when it shipped.
Despite the rest of the car. I will never buy another Toyota while they have such deplorable head units. I can't even replace mine! It's non standard and is built into the entirety of the dash.

So screw you Toyota.
 
Siri understands me fine too. But never returns reasonable result

"What's the weather forecast"

"I'm sorry, I could t understand that, here are searches for WHETHER FORECAST"
Personally I see virtually no real world difference between;
Siri understands me but gives me no useful results and Siri doesn't understand me.
 
Personally I see virtually no real world difference between;
Siri understands me but gives me no useful results and Siri doesn't understand me.
That was the point I was trying and failed to make
 
"Given Apple's continued updates to CarPlay enhancing the experience further, and car-makers' inability to do the same along with their long development times, CarPlay is poised to handle the vast majority of consumers' in-vehicle needs," said Schreiner, Director of Syndicated Research at Strategy Analytics.

Beyond the fact that 70 people is not an acceptable survey amount (it's more like a margin of error), the statement above pretty much kills any credibility he or SA has.

CarPlay isn't fully baked yet, it fails at so many things that it's not something you would pay for separately—so you're sure as hell not going to pay top-dollar for the one or two models each manufacturer offers it in.

Saying it is "poised to handle the vast majority of consumers' needs" is about the same as saying "Blackberry phones are poised to serve the vast majority of mobile needs." Both statements are true... they COULD serve the majority of needs. But the reality is that they don't now, they won't tomorrow, and it's likely they never will.

Top that with the fact that Apple is stuck relying on car makers to actually put it in the vehicle to begin with (over their own self-serving option) and it's apparent to almost everyone (except for this guy, I guess) that CarPlay is going to be even less than a "hobby" than Apple TV is. The "majority of consumers" will never have a vehicle with CarPlay in it.

CarPlay (or Android's option) will "serve the vast majority of consumers' in-vehicle needs" when you're hard-pressed to find a new car available that DOESN'T offer it, not one that does.

If Apple could get GM, Ford, Toyota or Honda to commit to put CarPlay in EVERY vehicle they make starting tomorrow... that would change things. It would give Apple the leverage they need to eventually replace the horrible systems in the cars and completely take over car infotainment systems.
 
I have it in my BMW, and it took some time getting used to using CarPlay. The key point is that CarPlay and BMW's own Bluetooth are completely separate and parallel systems. This was confusing at first, and I gave Siri an English accent to help differentiate which system I was interacting with. My car came with NAV, so I have been using it instead of Apple Maps; it helps that there is a BMW app that can also input the address into the NAV before I even get in the car. The NAV system works extremely well- it finds destinations with minimal input. Once I got over the learning curve, I have become pretty satisfied with how CarPlay functions. If anything, it has taught me to interact with Siri more efficiently.
 
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There are better cars than Toyota...

Not really.

Someone tried to compare my FJ with something from a 'big three' manufacturer. Their comparisons fell embarrassingly short. At least with the FJ, I *could* swap to a third party head unit. It would be easier than our old Lexus POS that hauls the dogs around. No Bluetooth, no Sirius/XM, and a cheesy cassette tape deck and single CD player. The dash is a monolithic mass of plastic and resin and replacing it would cost big buck, and likely look very stoopid... The next year of that model HAD an indash CD changer with Sirius/XM, and nav too, but I can't find any anywhere. Whatever...

Auto companies have to stop playing favorites and go with what's working, and stop beating their customers with crap technology that doesn't work, but 'could be a big thing eventually'. FAIL!!!
 
Judging from the video, Siri in CarPlay sucks big time. You could not rely on that at all, for anything.
 
Beyond the fact that 70 people is not an acceptable survey amount (it's more like a margin of error), the statement above pretty much kills any credibility he or SA has.

CarPlay isn't fully baked yet, it fails at so many things that it's not something you would pay for separately—so you're sure as hell not going to pay top-dollar for the one or two models each manufacturer offers it in.

Saying it is "poised to handle the vast majority of consumers' needs" is about the same as saying "Blackberry phones are poised to serve the vast majority of mobile needs." Both statements are true... they COULD serve the majority of needs. But the reality is that they don't now, they won't tomorrow, and it's likely they never will.

Top that with the fact that Apple is stuck relying on car makers to actually put it in the vehicle to begin with (over their own self-serving option) and it's apparent to almost everyone (except for this guy, I guess) that CarPlay is going to be even less than a "hobby" than Apple TV is. The "majority of consumers" will never have a vehicle with CarPlay in it.

CarPlay (or Android's option) will "serve the vast majority of consumers' in-vehicle needs" when you're hard-pressed to find a new car available that DOESN'T offer it, not one that does.

If Apple could get GM, Ford, Toyota or Honda to commit to put CarPlay in EVERY vehicle they make starting tomorrow... that would change things. It would give Apple the leverage they need to eventually replace the horrible systems in the cars and completely take over car infotainment systems.


It may not be 'fully baked' yet, but Apple IS actively working on it which should give anyone more hope that it will eventually be the best thing on four wheels.

My Toyota Prius had the 'support' of Toyota telling me to buy a new head unit, and hope that it worked. Nice 'support'.

I'd rather have a unit that could be upgraded and changed like an iPhone, or an iPod, rather than have to come to the Toyota Altar with a handful of cash and beg for an update. As far as I know, Toyota never fixed the issues that I had with that Prius head.
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Judging from the video, Siri in CarPlay sucks big time. You could not rely on that at all, for anything.

But the thing is that Apple is working on it. Most other car head units are basically 'dead on delivery'. Or maybe 'what you see is what you get', in that they aren't very upgradable, and the manufacturers seem to be in the 'buy and replace' idea necessitating a cash outlay for owners. I would think/hope that most (all) CarPlay heads are upgradable for future versions...
 
Drivers in the U.S. killed over 40,000 people last year. Do we really want drivers doing ANYTHING but paying attention to their driving? Do we really want to share the road with people doing all of these other things when they should be driving.

While I generally agree with the sentiment of your statement, I don't have an issue with people using their phones or digital devices in a responsible way, particularly as it concerns navigation. I'm old enough to remember having folding maps spread out all over my car seat trying to figure out how to get to my destination while driving, all the while scanning frantically for street signs, mile markers, and exit ramp numbers. GPS navigation is undoubtedly much safer in this regard.
 
I have several issues with CarPlay in my VW GLI.
  1. It doesn't support wireless and the wire is pretty annoying (always seems in the way of the stick shift) - especially as compared to just letting the bluetooth synch automatically.
  2. Ever now and then (randomly) the CarPlay won't activate (can't completely connect to the phone) and requires that the radio be rebooted.
  3. When restarting CarPlay when I get back in my car, it usually (not always) remembers the song that was playing last (sometimes it picks the first song, alphabetically, on the phone), but even when it does, it doesn't remember that it is part of a playlist, so I can't back-up one level to pick a previous song - I have to re-select "playlists", then select the playlist again.
I'm sure that part of the issue is the firmware that is in the VW entertainment system, but we know that automotive manufacturers are in no hurry to update firmware. Typically updates are put into new infotainment units that aren't able to be retrofitted into older car models.
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Drivers in the U.S. killed over 40,000 people last year. Do we really want drivers doing ANYTHING but paying attention to their driving? Do we really want to share the road with people doing all of these other things when they should be driving.
All the more reason for CarPlay. I still see plenty of people holding their phone up, doing whatever, while they are trying to drive. CarPlay gives me the ability to have navigation (even turn reminders on my watch) w/o looking at my phone, it gives me the ability to text verbally, so I'm not looking at my trying to type/read, etc. It seems that people are determined to use their phones while they drive - laws aren't going to change that - so there needs to be solutions that mitigates the distraction caused by directly interfacing with the phone while driving.
 
Does it offer mirroring yet? I use Waze exclusively for navigation and Car Play is pretty much useless without the ability to use other navigation programs. All the other stuff like responding to texts or calls is just gravy since that can be performed hands free using Bluetooth audio already.
 
Seriously? CarPlay is a huge reason why I have a Droid in my pocket for the past two weeks that I am trying. If I were the person in charge of CarPlay I'd be scrambling to catch up to Android Auto. I have owned every iPhone since the very first model and CarPlay is the very reason I may leave Apple.
 
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"Limited" - that's the understatement of the century.

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I've had CarPlay for over a year and am still baffled by Waze not having an app.
 
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