Carrie Fisher/Debbie Reynolds DIE

[Snoopy4]

Virtually all of the early celebrity deaths this year were directly related to lifestyle choices, including serious drug abuse or dangerous sexual practices.

If you are leading, or have led, that lifestyle, then you will not likely see 70 years either.

Is it sad that these talents are lost to us at an early age? Of course. It's hard to feel sorrow however, when one causes their own early demise due to lifestyle choices.

Unfortunate, but so true.

Sad day for sure. The irony of her forever being known as an a actress is her best talents were off screen with writing. I've been reading some of the stuff she's been involved in and it's pretty amazing the scripts she was involved in. Some prominent titles being. Lethal Weapon 3 and Outbreak. Crazy. Had no idea.

 

[Negan Lannister]

Unfortunate, but so true.

Doesn't apply to Christina Grimmie and Anton Yelchin. They died way, way too young by random tragedy.

I also don't believe Muhammad Ali, Kenny Baker, Alan Rickman, Alan Thicke, Florence Henderson, Nancy Reagan, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Doris Roberts, and Craig Sager were lifelong drug addicts. Some just died with a heart attack, cancer, old age, etc. Craig Sager had a positive outlook in life brighter than his suits and he dies.

We lost The Greatest, Carol Brady, Jason Seaver, George Michael, David Bowie, Prince and a Princess, Scrooge McDuck, Willy Wonka, R2-D2, a First Lady, Prince Be from PM Dawn, Chyna, Fidel Castro, Janet Reno, John Glenn, Arnold Palmer, Gordie Howe, children of Nat King Cole and Frank Sinatra, Garry Shandling, Garry Marshall, George Kennedy, and many more. Nobody lives forever and anybody is vulnerable to death no matter what better choices you make of it.

Carrie might have chose a negative lifestyle but what she, George Michael, Prince, and jockey Garrett Gomez might have did doesn't apply to every celebrity death this year. People just die no matter what circumstances and at any age.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Best not judge, that's a flaw (you know it's not directed at you fanboy ). We only walk in our own shoes, and should only be worried about judging ourselves in this matter.




We live our lives on custom length treadmills, with a duty to make the best of the unknown time we have, before who knows, what's next.

No judgment here mate. Given her mental health issues and her famous family (and fame at a young age herself), I'm sure it was a difficult road to walk and not one I'd want to emulate.
She will be sorely missed.

 

[JackieInCo]

And that is why it sounds so damn scary. Crap that is right around the corner.

I'm, 52 already. With George Michael dying at 53, that's when it really makes you start thinking.

 

[Larry-K]

You can name call, attack me, and deny all you want. She nearly died several times in the last 15 years directly related to her drug abuse. Of course, as die hard fans you already knew that.

Conveniently forgotten smoking and its links to heart disease?

Throw some more stones, we'll check your obit (if we can find it) for questionable "lifestyle choices", when your time's up.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

You are not qualified to say that Carrie's earlier lifestyle problems were the cause of her heart attack.
Don't paint with such a wide brush.

I am. Her 30 years heavy smoking, drug abuse and alcoholism certainly marked her. Her voice was deep and husky and she looked terrible about 15 years ago when she was in and out of rehab.

None of this is great for your heart and I don't have to be a doctor to state that.

 

[Snoopy4]

Doesn't apply to Christina Grimmie and Anton Yelchin. They died way, way too young by random tragedy.

I also don't believe Muhammad Ali, Kenny Baker, Alan Rickman, Alan Thicke, Florence Henderson, Nancy Reagan, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Doris Roberts, and Craig Sager were lifelong drug addicts. Some just died with a heart attack, cancer, old age, etc. Craig Sager had a positive outlook in life brighter than his suits and he dies.

We lost The Greatest, Carol Brady, Jason Seaver, George Michael, David Bowie, Prince and a Princess, Scrooge McDuck, Willy Wonka, R2-D2, a First Lady, Prince Be from PM Dawn, Chyna, Fidel Castro, Janet Reno, John Glenn, Arnold Palmer, Gordie Howe, children of Nat King Cole and Frank Sinatra, Garry Shandling, Garry Marshall, George Kennedy, and many more. Nobody lives forever and anybody is vulnerable to death no matter what better choices you make of it.

Carrie might have chose a negative lifestyle but what she, George Michael, Prince, and jockey Garrett Gomez might have did doesn't apply to every celebrity death this year. People just die no matter what circumstances and at any age.

I was talking about her.
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I'm, 52 already. With George Michael dying at 53, that's when it really makes you start thinking.

One of my uncles died years ago at 45, partied hard in the 70's. I passed that, but doing so makes ya think for sure.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Virtually all of the early celebrity deaths this year were directly related to lifestyle choices, including serious drug abuse or dangerous sexual practices.

If you are leading, or have led, that lifestyle, then you will not likely see 70 years either.

Is it sad that these talents are lost to us at an early age? Of course. It's hard to feel sorrow however, when one causes their own early demise due to lifestyle choices.

And little to say about her courage, biting, sharp, yet compassionate wit, formidable abilities as a writer (and not just as an actress)?

I hear one can whither away into a shallow husk of a human from self-righteousness. Although it would be hard to feel sorrow for someone suffering from such a pathetic demise.

Agreed.

You can name call, attack me, and deny all you want. She nearly died several times in the last 15 years directly related to her drug abuse. Of course, as die hard fans you already knew that.

Yes, but have you anything positive to say about a woman who discussed mental health issues with intelligence, insight and a rare degree of articulate awareness having lived this?

Genuinely gutted over this. I love the Star Wars films but more than that I'm really proud of her mental health work, and that she was a cocky woman. I've been rewatching old interviews of her and she is just always sharp and witty.

Her and Bowie really shocked me this year. Both were hugely influential in my teens.

My absolutely favourite comment from her in recent years was the cocaine Trump one. She owns her past, and I love that.
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(I found an old Star Wars VHS that I watched earlier. Got the bluray, but there's something about VHS that suits some films.)

Great post, and not just because I agree with every word.

And your point about owning her past is well and wonderfully made.

She admitted that she took drugs to try to mask the effects of bipolar disorder.

Yes, but some prefer to judge without context.

I am. Her 30 years heavy smoking, drug abuse and alcoholism certainly marked her. Her voice was deep and husky and she looked terrible about 15 years ago when she was in and out of rehab.

None of this is great for your heart and I don't have to be a doctor to state that.

Her family background must also have marked her, yet she owned it, and transcended it and made an impressive career and life - on her own terms - in spite of it.

 

[0098386]

Amazing how derailed a condolences thread can get because of a troll.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Amazing how derailed a condolences thread can get because of a troll.

A series of trolling posts that strike me as peculiarly persistent, yes, agreed.

 

[0098386]

And your point about owning her past is well and wonderfully made.

It's an inspiring attitude she had. One that I'm hoping to adopt when I get to back to giving interviews.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

It's an inspiring attitude she had. One that I'm hoping to adopt when I get to back to giving interviews.

Agreed.

Very impressive, and gutsy; brave, funny, and articulate, too. And agreed - I thought it brilliant that she owned her past with such courage and articulate insight and intelligence - and compassion.

Her comments on her possible cause of death occurring as a result of being strangled by her bra having put on yet more weight - and - subsequently - expanded, meaning garments that had once fitted her no longer did so - in a weightless, intergalactic, space, environment (comments which were her wonderful response to having been criticised for having gained weight by the usual witless and judgmental morons) were simply hilarious.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

A lovely tribute...

 

[5684697]

Doesn't apply to Christina Grimmie and Anton Yelchin. They died way, way too young by random tragedy.

I also don't believe Muhammad Ali, Kenny Baker, Alan Rickman, Alan Thicke, Florence Henderson, Nancy Reagan, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Doris Roberts, and Craig Sager were lifelong drug addicts. Some just died with a heart attack, cancer, old age, etc. Craig Sager had a positive outlook in life brighter than his suits and he dies.

We lost The Greatest, Carol Brady, Jason Seaver, George Michael, David Bowie, Prince and a Princess, Scrooge McDuck, Willy Wonka, R2-D2, a First Lady, Prince Be from PM Dawn, Chyna, Fidel Castro, Janet Reno, John Glenn, Arnold Palmer, Gordie Howe, children of Nat King Cole and Frank Sinatra, Garry Shandling, Garry Marshall, George Kennedy, and many more. Nobody lives forever and anybody is vulnerable to death no matter what better choices you make of it.

Carrie might have chose a negative lifestyle but what she, George Michael, Prince, and jockey Garrett Gomez might have did doesn't apply to every celebrity death this year. People just die no matter what circumstances and at any age.

Might want to do a little analysis of the ages of the departed. It's not just drugs gang, it's a host of other choices that are impacting quality and length of life for too many.

I'm glad Fisher was able to right and enjoy her life, she suffered for too long.

 

[rhett7660]

Doesn't apply to Christina Grimmie and Anton Yelchin. They died way, way too young by random tragedy.

I also don't believe Muhammad Ali, Kenny Baker, Alan Rickman, Alan Thicke, Florence Henderson, Nancy Reagan, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Doris Roberts, and Craig Sager were lifelong drug addicts. Some just died with a heart attack, cancer, old age, etc. Craig Sager had a positive outlook in life brighter than his suits and he dies.

We lost The Greatest, Carol Brady, Jason Seaver, George Michael, David Bowie, Prince and a Princess, Scrooge McDuck, Willy Wonka, R2-D2, a First Lady, Prince Be from PM Dawn, Chyna, Fidel Castro, Janet Reno, John Glenn, Arnold Palmer, Gordie Howe, children of Nat King Cole and Frank Sinatra, Garry Shandling, Garry Marshall, George Kennedy, and many more. Nobody lives forever and anybody is vulnerable to death no matter what better choices you make of it.

Carrie might have chose a negative lifestyle but what she, George Michael, Prince, and jockey Garrett Gomez might have did doesn't apply to every celebrity death this year. People just die no matter what circumstances and at any age.

Talk about one of the most depressing posts of the year. A good chunk of those we lost this year. I have a feeling 2017 is going to be more of the same. We are seeing those who we grew up getting older and are probably reaching the end or close to it. Heck I am not looking forward to 2017 given how many folks we have in 70's, 80's, and 90's. This doesn't take into account those who will pass by other causes such as accidents etc. Damn depressing I tell yeah!

 

[Apple fanboy]

Talk about one of the most depressing posts of the year. A good chunk of those we lost this year. I have a feeling 2017 is going to be more of the same. We are seeing those who we grew up getting older and are probably reaching the end or close to it. Heck I am not looking forward to 2017 given how many folks we have in 70's, 80's, and 90's. This doesn't take into account those who will pass by other causes such as accidents etc. Damn depressing I tell yeah!

In a recent survey they found out 1 out of every 1 people die.
It's the bit you do before that matters.

And Carrie brought happiness to millions. I was surprised to read some of the things I didn't know she did and some other great movies she worked on as a script editor.

 

[Solomani]

May the Force be with you, Princess Leia.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

And breaking news tonight - which, if true, would be tragic beyond belief - that Debbie Reynolds has apparently suffered a 'medical episode' (reported as a possible stroke).

 

[MacNut]

And breaking news tonight - which, if true, would be tragic beyond belief - that Debbie Reynolds has apparently suffered a 'medical episode' (reported as a possible stroke).

Someone lock Betty White into a bubble.

 

[skinsone]

It has been almost 12 years since I saw and spoke with Carrie. What impressed me about her was her beauty; inside beauty that is. She didn't go out of her way to be noticed or to grab attention. Chatting with her was like being with a old friend you hadn't seen in years. Open and honest she was. She complimented me on my sweater and told my son how good looking he was (27 at that time). And she had some colorful language used in great context and a great laugh. Both of them did.

And the love for her mom was evident. She made sure Debbie was comfortable. Photos of both Carrie and Debbie don't due them justice. As a woman, we notice small things. I'm 6 years older than Carrie, and her smile was just glowing as was her skin. Yes she had gained weight but she didn't try to hide it or behind it.

Spending $500.00 a ticket was well worth it to see the movie and go to the party. But meeting Carrie and Debbie was an opportunity I never imagined me and my son would get in a lifetime. One full of memories we both treasure and talk about.

May the Force be with her always. Prayers for Debbie for a swift recovery.

 

[Moyank24]

Now it is being reported that Debbie Reynolds has died.

Horrible tragedy for the family. But, as a mother myself, no doubt she is happy to be reunited with her daughter.

 

[MacNut]

Now it is being reported that Debbie Reynolds has died.

Horrible tragedy for the family. But, as a mother myself, no doubt she is happy to be reunited with her daughter.

The loss was too much for her to handle.

 

[Moyank24]

The loss was too much for her to handle.

Looks like it. And I can completely understand. No matter the age, I can't imagine outliving my kids.

 

[determined09]

Now it is being reported that Debbie Reynolds has died.

Horrible tragedy for the family. But, as a mother myself, no doubt she is happy to be reunited with her daughter.

Unfortunately, Debbie Reynolds had a stoke while they were planning Carrie Fisher's funeral.

 

[Mac'nCheese]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-debbie-reynolds-ill-20161228-story.html