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Carrie Fisher/Debbie Reynolds DIE

Hey all, outside of Star Wars, I never really noticed or remembered any other memorable movies that she did. Is there something else (other than SW) that I should watch to better appreciate her as an actress?
 
Solomani said:
Hey all, outside of Star Wars, I never really noticed or remembered any other memorable movies that she did. Is there something else (other than SW) that I should watch to better appreciate her as an actress?
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It's going to sound bad but the first movie I think of outside of SW is 'Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back'.. it was only a minor role but a memorable one in one of my favourite comedies.
 
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Solomani said:
Hey all, outside of Star Wars, I never really noticed or remembered any other memorable movies that she did. Is there something else (other than SW) that I should watch to better appreciate her as an actress?
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MRU said:
She was very influential script editor and writer. Films like the Oscar winning Postcards From The Edge etc ....
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Exactly.

@MRU has it absolutely right: she was an extremely gifted writer, and excelled as a 'script doctor', or script editor, becoming very highly regarded (and very well remunerated) in the field.

Movies/films she worked on (as a script doctor or editor or writer) included 'Sister Act', 'Hook', 'The River Wild', 'Lethal Weapon 3' and 'The Wedding Singer' among others. "So I Married An Axe Murderer" was also one of hers.

Asked what she did when given a script she replied, "Make the women smarter and the love scenes better", remarking that, "I write good love scenes and I write good women". After 'Sister Act' when Whoopi Goldberg sought her scriptwriting services, Carrie Fisher was often called upon to strengthen a female role.
 
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VideoFreek said:
As usual, Scepticalscribe, an eloquent and thoughtful post that is right on the mark. As a person who values above all else scientific and intellectual rigor, I would add a different perspective that has not been brought up on this thread so far. Some posters seem to believe that Ms. Fisher's death was a direct result of her earlier substance abuse, as a sort of foregone conclusion. One even asserted to "know" that this was indeed the case:



Others seem to want to turn this tragedy into some sort of moralistic teaching moment. Consider this gem:



While it is certainly a plausible hypothesis that Ms. Fisher's struggles with substance abuse contributed to her early death, it also might be wrong. There are other plausible hypotheses.

One is that she simply died of heart disease, unrelated to substance abuse. It happens. According to the American Heart Association, about 60 women aged 55-64 per 1000 annually have a heart attack or fatal CHD. Source.

Another hypothesis is that this was a tragic complication of her bipolar disorder. You can read all about it here, but the gist is that certain cardiac risk factors are correlated with bipolar disorder, and besides that some mood stabilizers used to treat the disorder can exacerbate these factors.

All we know, therefore, is that we don't know what led to her too-early departure. What I do know is that humanity is diminished by the loss of her tremendous humor, sharp wit, and incredible self-deprecating honesty. And if it is indeed the case that her mental illness in some way contributed to her early death, than that is sad beyond words--no ifs, ands, or buts (or moralizing) required.
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Intersting that the media has not mentioned that maybe "The Force Awakens" had a hand in this unfortunately.

Carrie was under huge pressure (as well as Mark Hamill) to get in shape for the movie very quickly and who knows what kind of weight reduction drugs and training they had to go through to get ready for the film. Quick lose of weight does not do well for the heart, especially when Carrie was now in demand again after many years of abscense for movies and T.V. Not only was lifestyle choices as a possible issue, but choice of profession is also a possible cause.

Actors and Actresses are considered "a product" at times and not human beings. Yes, they choose the industry to be apart of...but the demands of the profession I believe may have caused the untimely death of "The Princess" that will live in our youthful past.

R.I.P. Princess. I too lost my Dad a few weeks ago and he was young (a drummer in his youth) 69 years old and lifestyle choices did not help as the 60's generation (and baby boomers) is showing us as a lesson for us who remain.

Like Steve Jobs too..too young to go and too soon. Lifestyle choices is probable..especially in our non-reality youth days...but all are destined for the same fate..unless...
 
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Mac'nCheese said:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/23/carrie-fisher-heart-attack-plane/
Carrie Fisher suffered a massive heart attack Friday on an airplane ... TMZ has learned.

Our sources say Carrie was on a flight from London to LAX when she went into cardiac arrest. People on board were administering CPR.

We're told the emergency occurred 15 minutes before the plane landed in L.A. A flight attendant asked if there were any medical personnel on board and an EMT who was sitting in the back of the plane came up to first class and administered life-saving measures.

The plane landed just after noon in L.A. and paramedics rushed her to a nearby hospital.
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one day after another, but Star wars is good.
 
dos Gris said:
Please, the self righteous posts on both sides are childish. Fishers suffering and death was tragic, probably caused by a variety of factors in her difficult childhood. It isn't judgemental to say don't make the same mistakes, take care of your body.

http://www.drmirkin.com/histories-and-mysteries/carrie-fishers-inflammatory-lifestyle.html
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No, but it is missing the point of the thread to focus simply and solely on elements of a lifestyle that were less than healthy while completely overlooking the artistic - and human - contributions made by someone such as Carrie Fisher who owned her demons and was a brave, decent, and generous and extraordinarily talented human being by all accounts.
 
Nothing we can do about her demons or what created them, but you can make positive changes to your own lifestyle. That would honor her more than mere words.

Do you want to feel good or do good?
 
Scepticalscribe said:
Exactly.

@MRU has it absolutely right: she was an extremely gifted writer, and excelled as a 'script doctor', or script editor, becoming very highly regarded (and very well remunerated) in the field.

Movies/films she worked on (as a script doctor or editor or writer) included 'Sister Act', 'Hook', 'The River Wild', 'Lethal Weapon 3' and 'The Wedding Singer' among others. "So I Married An Axe Murderer" was also one of hers.

Asked what she did when given a script she replied, "Make the women smarter and the love scenes better", remarking that, "I write good love scenes and I write good women". After 'Sister Act' when Whoopi Goldberg sought her scriptwriting services, Carrie Fisher was often called upon to strengthen a female role.
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Don't forget the classic "Blues Brothers". She also had a reaccuring role on Family Guy as Angela.
 
tvguy said:
Don't forget the classic "Blues Brothers". She also had a reaccuring role on Family Guy as Angela.
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Never saw "Family Guy" (actually, I had never even heard of it - I'm not from the US and don't live there), but, "Blues Brothers" I saw years ago in the university cinema, and, until I read the obits, I had entirely forgotten that Carrie Fisher played a terrific role in that.
 
MRU said:
Actually, it is one of the biggest animated shows in the UK too in fairness ;) With episodes running 'every night' on ITV (previously BBC 3) ...
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I stand corrected. And, truth to tell, genuinely, I had never heard of it.

Actually, - and this is the truth - apart from news, current affairs, - and maybe documentaries (an honourable exception for STNG and Foyle's War - and - my guilty secret - Downton Abbey) - I never watch TV, so I tend not to know that is on, or even what it is called.

Since I no longer teach - youngsters used to keep me somewhat abreast of popular culture, but, nowadays, I am out of that loop - but will say that I have learned more from these fora about popular culture than I could ever have imagined possible.
 
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Scepticalscribe said:
I stand corrected. And, truth to tell, genuinely, I had never heard of it.

Actually, - and this is the truth - apart from news, current affairs, - and maybe documentaries (an honourable exception for STNG and Foyle's War - and - my guilty secret - Downton Abbey) - I never watch TV, so I tend not to know that is on, or even what it is called.

Since I no longer teach - youngsters used to keep me somewhat abreast of popular culture, but, nowadays, I am out of that loop - but will say that I have learned more from these fora about popular culture than I could ever have imagined possible.
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Funny I've learnt loads on this Mac forum to. Where as some of it has been MAC and iOS related, a good deal of it has been coffee and photography related!
 
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Apple fanboy said:
Funny I've learnt loads on this Mac forum to. Where as some of it has been MAC and iOS related, a good deal of it has been coffee and photography related!
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Yes, it has been very educational and instructive, agreed.

Sometimes, this has been stuff I wanted or wished to know more about (this was the very reason - to ask about my new MBP - why I joined the forum in the first place, after all), - but, sometimes, surprisingly, it has included stuff I hadn't known the first thing about, but found it extremely interesting, nevertheless.
 
I watched Bright Lights on HBO last night, a documentary about Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher that was shot in 2014 and originally slated for release this coming March. HBO moved up the release date to Jan 7 right after they died, which might have appeared to be a crass attempt to "cash in" on their deaths. After seeing the show, however, I think HBO made the right decision. It is a timely, very moving tribute to these two extraordinary women and their extraordinary relationship. It is funny, insightful, and at times poignant and even heartbreaking. I think Vanity Fair summarized it perfectly:

Ultimately, Bright Lights paints a lively and sometimes painful portrait of a true Hollywood romance. Todd was right to call the tale of Debbie and Carrie a “beautiful love story”. Let down by the men in their lives, Debbie and Carrie ultimately clung to each other. They lived on the same property—though in very different houses—finished each other’s sentences, continuously broke into song together, and built a pleasant, cozy life on the other side of very public disappointments. And for just a moment, Bright Lights let us share it with them.
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Highly recommended, if you can manage to see it.
 
MacNut said:
Figured this would be a good place to put this tribute that LucasFilm did for Carrie.
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Thanks for posting this, @MacNut - very timely and both moving and wonderful to watch.

Agree with @skinsone that it is a lovely tribute to "a wonderful, warm and hilarious actor" who revelled in strong female roles both as an actor and as a scriptwriter - and what a superb role model for young girls.
 
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