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Apps CARROT Weather's customizable complications

Beefburga said:
No, cheap is good...... I like cheap.

I, like you have and have tried most if not all the free weather apps.

Some are pretty good, others are dog poo!.

What was the clincher for me with Carrot was really the phone app the AW addition was just a bonus.

I used BeWeather for a while as the option to change the weather icons in the app and in the phone NC was a nice change but found the accuracy of forecast was a bit hit and miss (mostly miss)

Darksky was/is a great weather app for its notifications (I believe Carrot is looking in to this in a future update) but still not as accurate as Carrot.

What is your "go to" weather app?
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I don't have just one.... I use the stock app as the one on my watch that gives me the temp where I'm currently at....

I use weather.com to check weather for the whole day (hourly) and for the week/10 days and for places i'll be going to....

I use weather kitty when I want to see something cute and cuddly! :eek:)

and storm is set up to tell me if there is precipitation/lightning within 5 miles of me....
 
testcard said:
Dark Sky is still a good app, and you will get weather notifications on your Watch such as "Rain starting soon in xxx location" and "Light rain stopped in yyy location".
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The custom alerts are really good so you can be notified if the wind will be over a certain speed or snow will be a certain depth etc.

If Carrot incorporates this, I'll be very happy.
 

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MakerOfCARROT said:
Just been working on a bunch of different things for the various platforms! And for the next month I'll be working on the backend that supports subscription logins and push notifications, since Facebook decided to shut Parse down - that's the service that supports all that stuff. Fun fun fun! :p
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Could be into beta in April...
 
Beefburga said:
No, cheap is good...... I like cheap.

I, like you have and have tried most if not all the free weather apps.

Some are pretty good, others are dog poo!.

What was the clincher for me with Carrot was really the phone app the AW addition was just a bonus.

I used BeWeather for a while as the option to change the weather icons in the app and in the phone NC was a nice change but found the accuracy of forecast was a bit hit and miss (mostly miss)

Darksky was/is a great weather app for its notifications (I believe Carrot is looking in to this in a future update) but still not as accurate as Carrot.

What is your "go to" weather app?
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I'm very particular about my weather apps, and I have kind of a suite of them in order to get everything I want out of them. In particular, the two I use the most are:
  1. Weather Underground for its maps, forecasts that include hourly details for every day in the 10-day forecast, and map widget
  2. BeWeather2 for its highly customizable widget
I also have DarkSky but since it's rain forecast (from Forecast.io) is included in BeWeather2 I don't find myself opening it much.

I recently installed CARROT weather for the complications, and I love it!
 
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I have a crazy suggestion but honestly it might be one of those things that I'd be the only one who actually uses it, and clearly adding a feature for one person is... inefficient.

What do you think about a complication that displays UV rating -or- chance of rain depending on what's more appropriate at the time? I like both pieces of information but I often don't NEED them both at the same time - if there's a chance of rain later I'm probably not too worried about a sunburn, ya know?

Any thoughts? I'm not sure what the threshold would be for switching back and forth; user-configurable would be nice but adds further clutter to the settings screen. Maybe just limit it to two options, with each one giving one data point or the other "priority".
 
OrionsByte said:
I have a crazy suggestion but honestly it might be one of those things that I'd be the only one who actually uses it, and clearly adding a feature for one person is... inefficient.

What do you think about a complication that displays UV rating -or- chance of rain depending on what's more appropriate at the time? I like both pieces of information but I often don't NEED them both at the same time - if there's a chance of rain later I'm probably not too worried about a sunburn, ya know?

Any thoughts? I'm not sure what the threshold would be for switching back and forth; user-configurable would be nice but adds further clutter to the settings screen. Maybe just limit it to two options, with each one giving one data point or the other "priority".
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I've been thinking about adding a "smart" complication option, but it's true that it's hard to decide what to show when - a windy day in one city would be completely normal in another, etc. Making it user configurable would be one way to go, but that might get very unwieldy very quickly...
 
MakerOfCARROT said:
I've been thinking about adding a "smart" complication option, but it's true that it's hard to decide what to show when - a windy day in one city would be completely normal in another, etc. Making it user configurable would be one way to go, but that might get very unwieldy very quickly...
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I was playing with DarkSky's custom notifications today, and it seems like from a UI perspective something like that would work, where they could set up a list of conditions (Settings -> Complications -> Slot -> Smart -> New UI) and basically the last one that matches wins. So for instance I might set mine up thusly:

Smart Complication:
Humidity​

Unless:
  1. UV Index > 5
  2. Chance of rain > 10%
  3. Wind Speed > 10mph
  4. Chance of rain > 75%
(I really doubt I'd make mine that involved but it's just for the sake of argument.)

The REAL trick would be changing it during Time Travel... but that would be possible, right? It's all figured out in advance anyways...

I'm sorry if I'm stepping on your toes at all, I'm afraid I think like a programmer and I can't turn it off. ;)
 
OrionsByte said:
I was playing with DarkSky's custom notifications today, and it seems like from a UI perspective something like that would work, where they could set up a list of conditions (Settings -> Complications -> Slot -> Smart -> New UI) and basically the last one that matches wins. So for instance I might set mine up thusly:

Smart Complication:
Humidity​

Unless:
  1. UV Index > 5
  2. Chance of rain > 10%
  3. Wind Speed > 10mph
  4. Chance of rain > 75%
(I really doubt I'd make mine that involved but it's just for the sake of argument.)

The REAL trick would be changing it during Time Travel... but that would be possible, right? It's all figured out in advance anyways...

I'm sorry if I'm stepping on your toes at all, I'm afraid I think like a programmer and I can't turn it off. ;)
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That's actually a good idea, just a big if/else chain in the UI.

Would anyone else here use something like that, or do you prefer having one set data point that's always there?
 
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MakerOfCARROT said:
That's actually a good idea, just a big if/else chain in the UI.

Would anyone else here use something like that, or do you prefer having one set data point that's always there?
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From an implementation standpoint, the current selection of single data points could each be represented by a "smart" complication with no conditions other than a default, and that way you don't have to differentiate in code between a normal complication and a smart one - just treat them the same. Then you could give the users access to the current list of single-data-point options, perhaps a few standard conditional options, plus an additional option that they can customize to their heart's content (or you could allow them to customize any of the standard options by adding conditions on top of them, but that seems a bit less intuitive to me).

That means that "all" you'd have to do is convert the entire system to use smart complications instead of what you've got. Easy as pie. That's like what, 15 minutes of work with your eyes closed, right? :p

Anyways, if you do get around to messing with something like this I'd love to get in on the beta. Thanks for the app and all your effort communicating with the community. :cool:
 
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MakerOfCARROT said:
That's actually a good idea, just a big if/else chain in the UI.

Would anyone else here use something like that, or do you prefer having one set data point that's always there?
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I would definitely use that. It's kind of like Siri suggestions: the most relevant weather info is surfaced first. If a hurricane is coming, I don't really want to know what the UV index is going to be (hyperbole, I know...)
 
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testcard said:
Dark Sky is still a good app, and you will get weather notifications on your Watch such as "Rain starting soon in xxx location" and "Light rain stopped in yyy location".
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I made the switch for Dark Sky. I like this feature as well as the scheduled days overview before I leave for work.
 
Looks popular then!

I remember asking a few times for a new complication displaying conditions + rain percentage chance (replacing the temperature with %) but this would be able to function the same way, and clearly lots of other people would customise it how they want to.

For example, I'd stick to condition+temperature, but if the chance of rain is over 50% I'd like it to display that.
 
I think the ability to customize the type/frequency of notifications would be great. I have the Mac version of Carrot weather as well to push notifications to my phone/watch. However, I still run DarkSky side by side because I feel that app will inform me more often when drizzle or other precipitation will start and end. Since the apple watch complications do not update very often, these push notifications are quite useful. These two apps cover my weather needs quite well, but it would be great if I could get down to one.

That said, your apple watch complication is my favorite weather complication of them all and I definitely support additional customization. I appreciate you taking the time to update this thread!
 
xyber233 said:
I think the ability to customize the type/frequency of notifications would be great. I have the Mac version of Carrot weather as well to push notifications to my phone/watch. However, I still run DarkSky side by side because I feel that app will inform me more often when drizzle or other precipitation will start and end. Since the apple watch complications do not update very often, these push notifications are quite useful. These two apps cover my weather needs quite well, but it would be great if I could get down to one.

That said, your apple watch complication is my favorite weather complication of them all and I definitely support additional customization. I appreciate you taking the time to update this thread!
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Yeah, because Dark Sky is directly tied into the forecast.io weather data system, it is able to send the notifications out right when the weather changes. CARROT, meanwhile, has to update its data every X minutes to see if anything has changed. So there's always going to be a lag there.
 
MakerOfCARROT said:
Yeah, because Dark Sky is directly tied into the forecast.io weather data system, it is able to send the notifications out right when the weather changes. CARROT, meanwhile, has to update its data every X minutes to see if anything has changed. So there's always going to be a lag there.
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Yeah, I figured they would charge per API call.
 
i have a request for the small complication; can we have the option to embolden the text witht he temperature (the condition one). the weather has got really hot and i'm suddenly finding the pale grey really hard to read in the sunlight!
 
nicho said:
i have a request for the small complication; can we have the option to embolden the text witht he temperature (the condition one). the weather has got really hot and i'm suddenly finding the pale grey really hard to read in the sunlight!
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Unfortunately there's no way to change the text style/color on the small complications, otherwise I'd have them set to bold and bright white!
 
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