They could use high-quality, attractive materials and make them less slippery. They don’t. I think Apple makes a lot of money on the repair side of the business. No incentive to make less slippery phones.
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It's more design/style for them when it comes to something like that, which has been more or less their approach for a long time. I'm not so sure how much repairs actually get them when everything is factored in at the end.
Kind of thinking iPhone X here and the price of that backside. More than half the cost of the phone and one drop and it's toast. I find it hard to believe it would not be a cash cow for them on the repair end. Imagine if phones weren't slippery at all, so many people would not use cases at all. I also have a pixel 2 and find the backside to be grippy enough to hold when going caseless unlike my slippery iPhone 7. I prefer no case as it gives a good feel in hand and more sleek for sure. But then the damn camera hump kinda spoils it. And that's another thing, LOL.
Iv'e never read any info on their repair end of the business but I also would be really curious how much profit margin that offers.
Yep. I remember using an iPod Touch 4th gen caseless. Darned thing kept slipping from my fingers while reading in bed. Didn't have that issue with the thicker and more rounded iPhone 2G and 3GS.
I have similar grip issues with the iPhone 6 style phones so I use a Speck Presidio Grip Case.
You got to find the right case. I am using black Apple leather cases for last 5 years. Tried many competitors but always came back to those. High quality leather case is not slippery and adds another dimension to Iphone experience
Yeah... I really love the way my iPhone X looks and feels without the case, but glass front and back? Yeah... I put a case on it. I'm not a fan of the camera bump either, so at least a case improved that design element.
I have the icarez with the notch cut out and it causes no color cast. The very edges have some prism action going on but it doesn’t bother me. Overall I’m pretty happy with it and decided protection was a good idea since I skipped AppleCare +
I may receive a lot of criticism for my comment since it's not widely applicable, but:
Since the iPhone 4 (iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6S, iPhone 7, iPhone X), I have not used a case.
Since the iPhone 4, I've had to replace the backside of my iPhones only once.
Once in 8 years.
I wouldn't say that the iPhone is the most durable phone there is, but I haven't felt like I needed a case to use it on a daily basis, and I've been loving using my phones without a case to fully appreciate their industrial designs.
Again, doesn't apply to everyone, but just an illustration that it can be done.
Since the iPhone 4 (iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6S, iPhone 7, iPhone X), I have not used a case.
Since the iPhone 4, I've had to replace the backside of my iPhones only once.
Once in 8 years.
I wouldn't say that the iPhone is the most durable phone there is, but I haven't felt like I needed a case to use it on a daily basis, and I've been loving using my phones without a case to fully appreciate their industrial designs.
Again, doesn't apply to everyone, but just an illustration that it can be done.
No criticism here. I've owned smartphones and used them all without cases since 2008. I have a 4s, a 5 and a 6s+ as well as an iPad that do not have cases on them.
I respect for those who do like cases, and there are members who have likely well over $250 in cases for their iPhones, which I also see as not just as protection, but also a means of customization.
As far as the camera bump, I think @eyoungren would entirely agree with your dislike for that, probably even more.
I have used clear cases with my iPhones. Which is what I currently have on my iPhone 8 plus. I can display the back and front of the phone, yet still keep it protected.
And since the iPhone 8 plus is glass, I really feel I should keep it extra protected. I also think it gives me a bit more grip too and not too much expense of heft. So I shall keep putting them in cases -- especially if the bodies are made of glass.
And since the iPhone 8 plus is glass, I really feel I should keep it extra protected. I also think it gives me a bit more grip too and not too much expense of heft. So I shall keep putting them in cases -- especially if the bodies are made of glass.
Had to come back here to post this as it just literally happened: I was standing next to my wife checking something on my phone as she happened to turn around as she was picking up her purse and things just happened to line up where as she was turning her purse was right at the height of where I was holding my phone and actually hit my phone knocking it out of my hands onto the floor. No one was being inattentive or careless here and no amount of planning could have really avoided something like that, and yet it just happened, as simplistic and/or unlikely that might be.
I would argue differently. But that's based on my life experience I suppose.
I EXPECT that someone, no matter who they are, is going to do something I do NOT expect that will damage my phone or other device.
Consequently, I placed my devices in places to minimize that, having taken as many possibilities into consideration as I can. A lot of people would probably see that as overthinking things.
My wife is a klutz, I am a klutz. When I get in close quarters I put my phone away. If anything is so important that I must be on the phone I position myself so that I am away from others.
In your example I would have been farther away. You did not expect this to happen and in your particular life experience it's a rare thing. In my particular life experience it is something I WOULD expect to happen and so I account for it.
I'm not Milo Murphy, but over the course of my life more things of mine have been broken either deliberately or because I was in close quarters with others that I just assume something like this will occur.
I've been known to put devices and computers and whatnot in other rooms where no one will be simply because I take circumstances and extrapolate. When my children were young I changed their diapers on the floor. Doing that removed any possibility that they could squirm or twist in such a way as to fall off the changing table. It is extremely hard, if not impossible to fall off the floor. I did this because I assumed it could happen even if the probability wasn't there.
I have been accused of being a square or a for bringing the mood down because I've been the one to say "That's not safe." People look at me wierd when I tell them why ("Oh, right! Like THAT'LL ever happen!!!)" yet when it does I get dirty looks! I've seen more stupid people do stupid unexpected things in my life that I just learned to protect myself.
And this is what I mean by all I've stated above. Maybe that makes me obsessively or overly concerned, IDK. But it's the way I think and protect myself. So far, over 47 years, it's worked for me.
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It could have easily happened with my wife not being close by me at then doing that as she happened to walk by me. And I mean she wasn't so close to me that this could have really been foreseen (with her being able to reach me only if she really suddenly picks up and swings her purse wide) unless I perhaps would have actively made sure to be more than 6 feet away from her or basically anyone at any point I use my phone or have anything else in my hands (which isn't exactly practical a lot of the time, even if I would actively pretty much constantly think about it).I would argue differently. But that's based on my life experience I suppose.
I EXPECT that someone, no matter who they are, is going to do something I do NOT expect that will damage my phone or other device.
Consequently, I placed my devices in places to minimize that, having taken as many possibilities into consideration as I can. A lot of people would probably see that as overthinking things.
My wife is a klutz, I am a klutz. When I get in close quarters I put my phone away. If anything is so important that I must be on the phone I position myself so that I am away from others.
In your example I would have been farther away. You did not expect this to happen and in your particular life experience it's a rare thing. In my particular life experience it is something I WOULD expect to happen and so I account for it.
I'm not Milo Murphy, but over the course of my life more things of mine have been broken either deliberately or because I was in close quarters with others that I just assume something like this will occur.
I've been known to put devices and computers and whatnot in other rooms where no one will be simply because I take circumstances and extrapolate. When my children were young I changed their diapers on the floor. Doing that removed any possibility that they could squirm or twist in such a way as to fall off the changing table. It is extremely hard, if not impossible to fall off the floor. I did this because I assumed it could happen even if the probability wasn't there.
I have been accused of being a square or a for bringing the mood down because I've been the one to say "That's not safe." People look at me wierd when I tell them why ("Oh, right! Like THAT'LL ever happen!!!)" yet when it does I get dirty looks! I've seen more stupid people do stupid unexpected things in my life that I just learned to protect myself.
And this is what I mean by all I've stated above. Maybe that makes me obsessively or overly concerned, IDK. But it's the way I think and protect myself. So, far over 47 years it's worked for me.
No way to really expect and pre-plan for everything unexpected all the time. And while there are some extremely careful and luckier people out there in one sense or another, even those people probably tripped on something or dropped something more than once in their life.
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I understand your position and I am starting to think I am different than most people (would not be the first time).
I'll try to condense things…
I expect people to do either very stupid things or very unexpected things. My own family and friends are no exception. And it's happened. Most of the time I am proven right on this.
I ALWAYS expect the WORST to happen in any situation and the worst to come from people and if it does not then at least I was mentally prepared. It's better then being blindsided - which is the usual result in my personal experience if I do not expect the worst.
But you are right. I cannot account for everything. And it's usually that which gets me.
Don't get me wrong, I get what you are saying too, and actually follow a lot of that myself, just perhaps to a lesser degree in a sense that is somewhat more practical overall (for me at least). But with all that, things still just happen here and there unfortunately.
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This I can totally agree with you on. As paranoid as I might be sometimes (often for no reason) there is no accounting for every possibility. It's just not possible to do so.
Very well said. I’m not a huge fan of cases, though Apple leather cases are ok. Even tried Caudabe, which is great too! But I prefer my iPhone to be naked. And like you dear sir, I’m very careful of how I handle it, and where I sit it. People think it’s hard to do that, but it’s not. Be mindful of your surroundings and be consistent with how careful you handle it. iPhones are beautifully designed and feel great to hold. Probably the top reason I prefer naked. Cheers!
And, as we've just discussed in a few preceding posts, things can and do just happen at times nonetheless. People certainly have different approaches to that type of risk.
If that’s the only way you can tell, is it a problem? Given how cheap these protectors are, there may be some sample variation, so mileage may vary . I’m a photographer who is far more sensitive to color casts than most, and I own a number of filters (neutral density, ND grads, polarizers) and I've certainly seen filters with slight color cast issues. Oddly enough I use a screen protector on my iPhone, but I refuse to put a protective filter on my cameras lenses... some of which cost significantly more than an iPhone X. (Shrugs) So I guess I completely understand the idea that a cheap screen protector is going to take something away from an expensive OLED. There's no getting around the fact that it is going to change the look and feel of the screen it is sitting on top of, so the question becomes whether or not it's worth it for the peace of mind. I guess it is for me... at least for now. The iCarez protectors cost much less than Zagg and some of the others, but reviews are better. At least it's a cheap thing to try that can always be removed. I often have Tru-Tone enabled unless I’m editing photos (which I do more on my iPad or desktop anyway), because I like a bit of a warm tone for general use and for reading text on white backgrounds.
For me it's all about the risk of dropping and the cost of repair. I'm more likely to drop my iPhone (haven't yet, but my kid knocked it onto the floor yesterday) than my camera lens simply due to the fact that I'm using my iPhone more frequently. I have no protection on my Apple Watch or iPad. Maybe once I’m a year or so in on the X, I will risk using it naked. :-D
I don’t really believe in the sense of _luck_, more or less, there are those who are more mindful and Have dedicated practice to how they treat their iPhones for the cautionary sake. There must be a reason all my iPhones are in mint condition without the use of a case. As long as my habits work for me, I guess that is all that matters.
Well, as I mentioned in the remaining part of that bolded sentence, that even those people have still tripped on something or dropped something probably more than once in their life nonetheless despite all of that. That said (also as I mentioned in another recent reply) different people certainly have different approaches to that type of risk.