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1. A lot has changed since the iPad was announced. 2. It sounds like a lack of Flash won't be a problem at all. 3. I am amazed at the power that Apple has, I hope it doesn't corrupt them too much.

1. After an age-old period of speculations, a large iPod Touch was announced and suddenly other manufacturers moved their emphasis from fully featured tablet computers to basic multimedia tablets. Apple left this whole affair far too late and far too hyped. If there is anything good about these tablets, it is the fact that they don't need be very expensive and that with a suitable screen, traditional media can be consumed in a new manner. But I still believe that the iPad's screen is not appropriate for e-books and for outdoors use, for example.

2. The iPad will not play Flash, will it? The problem hasn't gone away. Try browsing without Flash for a day - I did and had to switch back after an afternoon. Some sites will implement HTML5 fairly soon, but it would take several years to get Flash out of most of the sites that the majority use.

3. Yeah, right... Apple is known for not abusing its powers in any way...


(not sent from my iPad)
 
Something people rarely talk about: NBC.com is already iPad ready. You can already watch full episodes of their TV shows using an iPhone. I did it the other day to watch a full episode of SNL. Go NBC!
 
Yes flash will be gone, it annoys me that I have to download a flash plug in.
 
Die Flash, die.

Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!
The ipad's popularity will drive tons of sites to adopt HTML. Boy remember them flames wars a few weeks ago when people were saying the ipad sucked cause it wouldn't be able to play flash? OMFG! I don't want to even go there.
But IO bet those haters are kicking themselves now.

Jobs has been pressing the flesh and making the relationships to insure, hopefully, the success of the ipad.

That
s how its done boys and girls.
Booya!

Go Apple!
 
Flash could have been so much more and so much better but they just fumbled and stumbled in development and making it a better and less buggy.
Water under the bridge, long gone. That window of opportunity closed for Adobe a long, long time ago.

Flash won't disappear in a day, week or even months, but its sun is setting.

Five years from now, you will probably run into a legacy Flash site. It will look a little forlorn and neglected, sort of like a blighted neighborhood whose best times had come and gone, waiting for renewal and rebirth, but the kids are gone, the grocery store burned down, and there are weeds growing in the sidewalk.
 
Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!
The ipad's popularity will drive tons of sites to adopt HTML. Boy remember them flames wars a few weeks ago when people were saying the ipad sucked cause it wouldn't be able to play flash? OMFG! I don't want to even go there.
But IO bet those haters are kicking themselves now.

Jobs has been pressing the flesh and making the relationships to insure, hopefully, the success of the ipad.

That
s how its done boys and girls.
Booya!

Go Apple!

um, the iPhone OS still doesn't play Flash.
 
Yes flash will be gone, it annoys me that I have to download a flash plug in.
What's your point?

The iPad does not have Flash support; there is no plug-in to download. Same with the iPhone, same with the iPod touch, same with a bunch of competitors' mobile devices.

CBS.com's move to HTML5 video playback doesn't just support iPad customers. It benefits the users of many devices that don't support Flash. Just between the iPhone and the iPod touch, we're talking 65 million devices. That's a lot of eyeballs.
 
If you've posted or even seriously considered the thought that Flash is dead or dying... you're technical opinions are baseless and have absolutely zero value. Yes, that is a fact. Read on.

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The majority of you couldn't OOP your way off of your couch, let alone understand the technology behind anything you are commenting on.

Seriously... I know I can't make personal attacks here, because ya'll run and cry to the moderators... but my goodness, please stop regurgitating every piece of technical news you think you understood.

Or at least try to research for yourselves and not sound so lemmish. But then again, people do have the right to be stoopid.

Please do notice that they aren't replacing Flash, they are creating HTML5 alternatives for those systems that don't support Flash.

It is an intelligent business decision to ensure your content is viewable by all platforms and architectures. Surely you understand this? It has only been the job description of every web-developer since the second web-browser was created.

HTML5, regardless of what your mother tells you is no where even complete or encompassing. Please go read... seriously. Go educate yourself.

Even HTML5 + Javascript does not even come close to replacing AS3 or Flex. Go jump on Wikipedia and do a little reading...

Seriously, I think these forums have turned into a playground for those who really, really, really want to be technical someday.

When you can develop in a good dozen or more languages, you'll understand a little better about how AS3, Javascript, Silverlight, AJAX, Java, etc -- play a part in how the world actually operates.

Remember, technologies never merge or take over an industry, it's actually the other way around.

It's just sad.
 
If you've posted or even seriously considered the thought that Flash is dead or dying... you're technical opinions are baseless and have absolutely zero value. Yes, that is a fact. Read on. etc...

Thank you for that quality post, but don't forget that the majority here (including me) have an emotional stance to Flash due to the fact that it crashes consistently on our macs. I'm sure we wouldn't have all these flash arguments if 1. it wouldn't crash that often and 2. it wouldn't hog the resources of even high end computers.

On another note.. I guess we are far off from writing off Flash as long as all p0rn video is still Flash.
 
Does HTML5 support interactive features/animation? and if you can you make it with Adobe Flash?

Controls: Javascript

Animation: SVG 1.2.

http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGTiny12/

More info: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/

New Features and Ease-of-Use

SVG Tiny 1.2 includes several improvements to the language, and key new features that SVG authors have been waiting for. Multimedia features such as synchronized interactive audio, video, and animation allow authors to create compelling content across platforms and devices, using open standards. The MicroDOM (or uDOM) gives developers more control than ever over scripted behaviors, with easier and more intuitive programming interfaces, and builds on DOM interfaces to include standardized keyboard support. Accessibility, internationalization, and localization are built into the language from the ground floor, and this specification improves upon those capabilities and adds clearer guidelines for using them. SVG Tiny 1.2 also includes attributes for semantic Web technologies such as RDFa, Microformats, and other metadata formats to allow authors to add meaning to their visual message. And as ever, text is SVG is not just an image, but is searchable and selectable, and SVG Tiny 1.2 makes it easier to use with the inclusion of auto-wrapping text fields and editable text, as well as custom fonts.
 
I switched my YouTube preferences to play HTML5 video where available and noticed apart from being slow to download it uses far greater CPU than even the HD Flash version. Is this the result Jobs expects?
 
Same here for more than a year now.
I won't miss it on the iPad :)

Same here. ClicktoFlash, and never click. Instead of annoying flashing ads, I surf in the zen environment of stylish gray rectangles, and just view the content I want.

And I'm not a user of lala. I don't bother because sites like these don't allow contents outside of the US (I may be wrong, but I tried a couple and kissed off).

I'm sure when bla-bla-5 becomes the standard, I'll download a program to block it off, and will continue my zen, contents-focused browsing.
 
I switched my YouTube preferences to play HTML5 video where available and noticed apart from being slow to download it uses far greater CPU than even the HD Flash version. Is this the result Jobs expects?

Maybe that is your case but it is fast for me and doesn't grind my iMac to a halt. I've been to sites on my iPhone that used HTML5 and it was fast.

From observations, Safari seems to be far better than even Chrome in handling HTML5.
 
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