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CBS.com Prepping HTML5 Video Playback for iPad
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One word for you sir, read and then you'll figure out why Silverlight plays just fine and Adobe flash plays like crap!
http://developer.apple.com/quicktime/qtkit.html
p.s. To you & Adobe, anyone who know how to use the "internets" has access to this information, Apple doesn't even hide it....hehehehehe
Seems to me that the point of this news item has gotten lost in all the pointless Flash vs. HTML5 bickering.
The point is this - CBS, one of the big four commercial networks in the USA (whether it's first, last or middling) changed it's website to be Ipad-friendly (and by extension to Iphones/Ipads and other mobile devices as well) BEFORE it is even released and become a known quantity. This is significant.
Feel free to return to your back-and-forth techspeak that the MAJORITY of casual computer device users don't care about. The OS/device/application that allows them to do stuff they want without getting bogged down in the details will be the one that succeeds.
Dave
The point is this - CBS, one of the big four commercial networks in the USA (whether it's first, last or middling) changed it's website to be Ipad-friendly (and by extension to Iphones/Ipads and other mobile devices as well) BEFORE it is even released and become a known quantity. This is significant.
Feel free to return to your back-and-forth techspeak that the MAJORITY of casual computer device users don't care about. The OS/device/application that allows them to do stuff they want without getting bogged down in the details will be the one that succeeds.
Dave
Sure, I hadn't reckoned on Jobs being the only one to leave out Flash. I only mention his name in the sense that we're discussing Mac products. I can see both sides of the argument although I would prefer to make this decision for myself. I don't have a problem with Flash - it doesn't cause me trouble and I've never had the misfortune to visit one of the talked about Flash-ad sites - they sound horrid. Perhaps I'm oblivious to advertising - I rarely notice it getting in the way of where I want to go as some people describe.
This is a beautiful Flash video. Windows 7 & Firefox 3.6.2 ran great.
Have you tried running it in Firefox? Just wondering if it's OS X, or just Safari.
Well CS5 is supposed to have a flash to iphone converter so who knows.
what I am wondering about is this. CBS owns tv.com which already has an iphone app. so why not just revamp that app to the ipad
you are right. Flash isn't just about video. It isn't just about those annoying dancing ads either.
Games. big business with Flash. Huge. Facebook has something like 10k games and they are all Flash based. One would think that Apple would want all that to run on the ipad since they are mega popular right.
Well there's a problem with that. Even if Flash ran on the iphone OS. And that problem is the real issue. Forget the battery, the CPU hog stuff. Forget the bugs cause Adobe merely ported the Windows version instead of a ground up writing. None of that matters compared to the real problem which has been acknowledged by numerous full time professional Flash developers.
Flash is mouse, not touch based. Flash works via hovers and such that simply won't work on touch based device like the iphone or ipad. Not until we have pressure sensitive screens.
You are missing something. Have you actually verified what you claim?
I'm looking at a Youtube video, in 720P, in HTML5 and there is *no* fullscreen option. And it runs like CRAP, stuttering all over itself. The same vid on Firefox in 720P runs like a champ in *full screen*.
Here's the video in HTML5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bHWuvzBtJo
That's amazing. You're probably the only person I've ever heard of that has *never* used Youtube, seeing as how they have just beta tested HTML5 recently and has been flash based since inception.
What's your issue? It runs great on Firefox on my MBP.
Many sites use slow loading flash just to present fairly simple slideshows, video clips or to bring up some colorful buttons superimposed on a picture. I doubt many of those applications would miss Flash.
AMEN!!! Sweet, sweet music to my ears! Die Flash!
I am getting very tempted to buy an iPad now with this news all the time and all the free Gutenberg books!
My processors spike up in firefox as well not just safari, flash is not using something right on OS X. Like I said this has been true since 10.2 and you just learn to deal with it. For the most part, sites I visit are not built entirely in flash but I think 4 oses later and 8 yrs for my Mac pro to still have 4 processors pinned when viewing a flash page is just darn sad.
it runs "great" on my mac pro too, my issue is that 4 processors are running at more than 30% for a simple intro page. Can you post what activity monitor looks like on your MBP, I doubt it runs more efficiently than my computer.
That site uses around 57%. No big deal. Are you trying to conserve CPU usage? LOL.
The reason flash runs worse on OS X is because Apple won't allow them to use hardware acceleration. You'd be around 10% on Windows.
If you're worried about CPU usage, take a look at what HTML5 chews up! I'm seeing 71% on Safari watching a HTML5 vid on Youtube. The same vid on flash in Firefox uses 54%. Go watch asteriod impact in HD on Youtube and see for yourself.
Bwahahahaha. That's not fullscreen. See how you can see your browser still? Wow. Just wow.
I don't see it in fullscreen. And the video is still a stuttering mess.You...you can see the fullscreen option in the lower right, right?
With HTML5 Youtube with the current version of Safari, there's no full screen widget- but it's there in the latest Webkit build, and it works, so I'll assume that will be in the "shipping" Safari pretty soon.
On the iPad simulator, I've seen where you can unpinch to zoom and any html5 video will jump to full screen. I'm going to assume the hardware iPad will also work this way.
You stated "There isn't even a fullscreen option."
But hey, don't backtrack on my accord.
Who's backtracking? Just like the person above said, there's no fullscreen in the current Safari. I don't know what version allows fullscreen, but the current version does not have it. But don't let facts get in the your way.
Matter of fact, how do I not know that he is showing the flash version of a video about HTML5? I just checked that video and yep, no fullscreen button.
Who has more to lose in that scenario? A lot of websites rely on flash because they have hired lazy and/or incompetent web developers to make their sites.
I can assure you the CEO of Porsche gives two flips about flash, and if he was presented with the reality that 10s of millions of people would be unable to view their website because their programmers are lazy, the programmers would be replaced.
Kids also eat paste and dirt. It doesn't mean we need to replace those things for them to eat if they became unavailable.
That's funny, because the CEO of Apple can give two flips about his customers not being able to access the web in its entirety.
Why don't you grab WebKit from http://webkit.org/ (you can use it without affecting your current Safari) and try the video to see if it works more smoothly on your system? It might give some insight into performance improvements the WebKit team is doing.