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I worK for CBS and they build an iPad app that need to improve a little more. It's for the CBS radio industry and it's called radio.com (you can search for it on the iTunes Store) they truely believes that html5 is the future of media.
 
emulator said:
Not the complete website kid, only the vid player. Huge difference.

No junior, in some websites, more than video. Why are so many people ignorant to flash's use on many websites as navigation and presentation as well.
 
No junior, in some websites, more than video. Why are so many people ignorant to flash's use on many websites as navigation and presentation as well.

Most bad ideas are dismantled piecemeal. Again, ubiquity does not an open web standard make.

I predict that within two years of any major media outlet retooling their site -navigation and all- for HTML5, the standard will have grown to accommodate most of the features Flash-heads are so in love with.
 
With the coming ability to make decent Flash 10 apps that run on WP7, Android, Blackberry, WebOS and Symbian devices, I think that mobile Flash apps are going to become very popular to make and use. Each app can run on all devices. Except the iPhone of course.

It remains to be seen, but I agree if Adobe executes its mobile version well, then it could change the debate and I can even see Apple going along. The reality is that Adobe made their bed... I'm not saying Apple could not do more to be helpful, but in a strange way they are helping... by forcing the debate and Adobe's hand.
 
Flash Death

:apple:s winning this for sure. Flash is gonna die sooner than I thought.

As a video container it will die soon(ish)...

It will, however, persist on the web for many more years, IMHO...where are the HTML5 tools (meaning where are the super easy programs for making HTML5 websites, not where are the blindly worshipping HTML5 fanboi's?)
 
10 years from now, computing hardware will become so cheap that not even Apple will be able to make a profit from hardware sales. And that's where most of Apple's profit is today. Same with HP, Dell, and the Wintel horde.

So, Apple is planning ahead (like they always do). They will need to make money through content and ads. Period. I don't think HP, Dell, and the current horde of generic Wintel box-makers have any chance of doing that as successfully as Apple.

You may have heard that Apple is building a $1 billion data center in North Carolina. Well guess what that just might be for. Could it be for, oh, I dunno, maybe serving up iAds on a free MobileMe? To Apple and Wintel customers?

We'll see.

I think you are totally right. I also think advertising everywhere totally stinks.
 
Exactly, perhaps adobe will make their software capable of outputting HTML5?
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That's what Adobe should have been doing. They seem totally unprepared by new technology.


Again, ubiquity does not an open web standard make.

Oh, I thought you were talking about h264.
 
Mobile browsing had to become sort of mainstream for open standards, semantics and accessibility to gain support. It not "Flash-free site for the visually impaired" anymore... It's happening, real world :)
 
I dunno...

I think the behavior of Adobe throughout this was rather sluggish and short sighted. I don't think they anticipated developments very well--I had the impression they were constantly fighting the last battle, not the current one.

We'll see if they become nimbler and better able to survive in the ever changing environment. If not, they do deserve to be passed up....
 
Ironically, the video embedded won't play for me since I don't have Flash Player 10 installed on my work computer...
 
With the coming ability to make decent Flash 10 apps that run on WP7, Android, Blackberry, WebOS and Symbian devices, I think that mobile Flash apps are going to become very popular to make and use. Each app can run on all devices. Except the iPhone of course.

With the coming ability? hahahaha I've heard that for over 2 years now

With html5 and h264 it'll run on every browser mobile or desktop, except firefox, period. Firefox is going to bury themselves along with flash. Even MS is ditching their beloved silverlight for it.

Java, Flash, Silverlight all need to die, along with activex, damn cisco call manager.

Different browsers and plugins for different sites is soo 2000's

The future is IE9, Chrome, and mobile safari/webkit
 
Dear internets,

Flash is dead. Please refrain from stabbing the body while it is already dead.

(kicking it is okay though.)


Dear Fast Food Restaurants,

Do you know how dumb ALL your websites are because they are made entirely in flash?
 
No junior, in some websites, more than video. Why are so many people ignorant to flash's use on many websites as navigation and presentation as well.

Yeah and all those websites suck.

That is kind of the point using Flash to design a website in is about as dumb a thing as you can do.

The reason for flash as a video wrapper all these years make sense. Using flash to design a webpage and navigation system is the epitome of a horrible and incapable web designer.

You don't need flash nor should you need flash to design a high quality interactive website. if you can't make a website without using flash and make it good, then you should be looking for another line of work to be in.
 
Are they just rolling this out for the iPad? I'd like to visit a flashless CBS on any regular computer.
 
another one to jump on the HTML5 wagon... flash is so dead!

funny that the video clip is in a flash player

Flash is dead, but advertising is booming! Gee, I can't wait to see my favorite shows including 10 min of commercials to ignore. It's funny how Apple and now CBS are touting how great their platform is for showing ads. They might want to back off on revealing that so heavily because I'm under the impression now that it's all about ad revenue and not content. Business as usual. :rolleyes:
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16)

Will there be closed captioning on HTML5 videos?!?
 
OMG - awesome news!

Erik Sivka thank you so much for bringing us all such important, cutting edge 1st page news!

Keep up the great work - you are genius and we love you!
 
OMG - awesome news!

Erik Sivka thank you so much for bringing us all such important, cutting edge 1st page news!

Keep up the great work - you are genius and we love you!

This. So much this.

The irony is that in the absence of Apple-related news, MR just plugs some content about someone moving away from Flash video (as if Apple is pulling the strings) in a bid to drive page views of its - you guessed it - Flash-based ads.
 
Soohoo notes that HTML5 still requires some work to improve its features to be on par with Flash, but CBS is committed to HTML5 and iPad development.

HTML5 could do nothing at all and it would still be better than Flash. Flash sucks CRU. Flash is a bandwidth, CPU and memory hog. It makes computers run hot, churn the fans and crash. Blah.

Not only that but Flash is primarily used for glitz and ads. Useless.

He also points to some unique features of the iPad such as Multi-Touch that will enable CBS to "doing some interesting advertising programs" on the platform.

Crimminy. How about some interesting content? Oops. There is none. This is why I don't what TV. Read a book today.
 
With html5 and h264 it'll run on every browser mobile or desktop.

And apart from video, it will look different in each one. Whoopee.

aFirefox is going to bury themselves along with flash.

All the while the "invisible hand" extension for IE and Chrome report your browser history to online stores, while Firefox is immune.

Have fun with that.

Even MS is ditching their beloved silverlight for it.

Nope. MS is supporting H264 exclusively in their implementation of the video tag in IE. Silverlight, (including silver light video which everyone here constantly cites as a reason why Flash video sucks), has very large use in the DRM protected streaming video market and is the basis for MS's phone OS.

Not what I'd call "ditching".


Different browsers and plugins for different sites is soo 2000's

yes, isn't it fun to bring back all that crap into the modern era? We'll all have multiple browsers again to access different sites or to protect our privacy. Or you'll have to wait until a company develops an app, and subjects you to iAd.

Yay.
 
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