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CBS Confirms Plans for Full HTML5-Based Video Offerings

This is crazy! Every day, another major site announces a change from Flash to HTML5. Apple really started an avalanche with this (a welcome one, too. I've never been a fan of Flash. All my browsers have Flash-blockers installed.)

Given that the rush away from Flash is now so evident, I wonder if the companies and devs in the Android sphere are a little concerned about the momentum they've built for bringing Flash to their platform. Increasingly, it seems like a wasted effort, but many of them have made getting Flash on the platform a battle cry. I wonder if some of them sense the dilemma they're setting up for themselves? They either waste a lot of energy just to mire a good platform in outdated tech or they back off and come away with egg on their faces. Frankly, I wish they would join in on this anti-Flash movement, but it's just not going to happen.

Regardless, I'm thrilled this is actually happening and so quickly. I've dreamt of a Flash-free Web for many years now and it looks like we're going to get there a lot sooner than anyone anticipated.
 
jaw04005 said:
Unfortunately, Murdoch has it in his head that all his properties will be charging for their online presence.

We'll know in 3 or 4 weeks.

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/te...ne-paid-subscription-plans-20100506-ubdf.html
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It sounds like they want to get a unified model in place. They own those properties, so they'll quickly find out if they've shot themselves in the foot. I can understand charging for the movies. As for TV, the people will decide if they want to pay for (hopefully) ad-free episodes.
 
JPyre said:
With html5 and h264 it'll run on every browser mobile or desktop, except firefox, period. Firefox is going to bury themselves along with flash. Even MS is ditching their beloved silverlight for it.
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Please, can't we stop pointing out that Flash (and Silverlight) as application frameworks aren't going away.

HTML5 gets rid of the need to wrap a video to have multi-platform playback. Not much more.

Wally seems to be the typical MacRumours poster ;) :

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PeterQVenkman said:
And apart from video, it will look different in each one. Whoopee.
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How?

PeterQVenkman said:
All the while the "invisible hand" extension for IE and Chrome report your browser history to online stores, while Firefox is immune.

Have fun with that.
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What invisible hand?

PeterQVenkman said:
yes, isn't it fun to bring back all that crap into the modern era? We'll all have multiple browsers again to access different sites or to protect our privacy. Or you'll have to wait until a company develops an app, and subjects you to iAd.

Yay.
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lol wut?
 
dvrk547 said:
It's much more.
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I meant "not much more" in the context of most posts here - almost every comment is about replacing a Flash video container (often of an H.264 video) with an HTML5 page.

Someday, when HTML5 is a standard, and someday after that when browsers implement the standard, it will be something more - but still short of Flash, Silverlight and JavaFX.
 
WHATWG needs to settle on a damn video codec. this is only going to serve to segment the internet even more due to this. look at the browsers that only support H.264, and look at the browsers that only support Ogg, and look at the one that support both.

I really wish that they would select a open sourced codec instead of a closed free (for now) codec that will require a fee later on down the road.

they need to set a standard and not make it a mess like its going to be.

VHS vs batamax, HD DVD vs Blueray and so on. HTML5 is going to be the start of another format war by not selecting a video codec as a standard for html5.

hell even if they selected H.264 as the standard i would be allot more happy then if it was just left undefined.
 
Mac users hate flash because it sucks on Macs.

Windows users have no opinion on Flash because it works well on Windows and don't have a clue what flash is because it isn't causing them any problems.
 
madmax_2069 said:
I really wish that they would select a open sourced codec instead of a closed free (for now) codec that will require a fee later on down the road.
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The idea that OGG is free is illusory. If anyone with money started using OGG, all the folks in the world who have codec patents will sue. You'll end up paying royalties to a motley collection of patent trolls instead of to an industry patent pool.


PS: problem solved: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/05/07/apple_developing_flash_alternative_named_gianduia.html (of course, it's Dilger, so it's probably all wrong)
 
Frisco said:
Mac users hate flash because it sucks on Macs.

Windows users have no opinion on Flash because it works well on Windows and don't have a clue what flash is because it isn't causing them any problems.
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That's such BS. I have 2 Windows machines well maintained that Flash sucks on. It runs OK when it wants to but most of the time it crashes my PC browsers and causes the CPU to rise up.
 
Now I know if I need to fall asleep anytime, I'll just watch that video. So boring.
 
And that HTML 5 list of supporters keeps growing...growing..:cool:...:apple:

Guess alot of people are worryed about eating crow right about now...
 
jmull said:
Flash is dead, but advertising is booming! Gee, I can't wait to see my favorite shows including 10 min of commercials to ignore. It's funny how Apple and now CBS are touting how great their platform is for showing ads. They might want to back off on revealing that so heavily because I'm under the impression now that it's all about ad revenue and not content. Business as usual. :rolleyes:
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You do know the tv business is all about selling ads and generating revenue right? Not about making content.
 
Yup...

Flash 'developers' should always be refereed to in quotes. Flash 'developers' usually only know Flash. So displaying their Flash Camp certificates is definition enough.

SockRolid said:
The key point is that there are more metrics for tracking Flash video watchers. At the moment. But it's just a matter of time until CBS Interactive can track HTML5 just as well. Metrics = Monetization. CBS Interactive is all about monetization.

Also, since HTML5 is not a proprietary format controlled by one single vendor, there is no danger of that vendor ruining CBS Interactive viewers' experience with crashes, malware, and reduced battery life. (Looking at YOU, Adobe.)

And, of course, in the long run it will probably be less expensive to deploy content with HTML5 / CSS / Javascript. These are all open standards, and HTML5 is simply an extension of HTML 4.0. No specialized training is needed.

Bad news for Adobe and Flash "developers". Good news for the rest of the world.
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