I look at CDMA as 2 things here in the forums (when people mention CDMA), a technology and a network. The technology has been around for a while, used a lot by the military. It's outstanding and by no means a dead technology. In fact, it's good enough to use as the air-interface for GSM. It scales very well (high call volume), no mapping of towers and covers a greater distance (less towers). As a network, CDMA is being replaced by LTE. My guess is the CDMA part will stay working for 10 to as many as 15 years. They have so much coverage, I wouldn't turn it off anytime in the near future.
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I look at CDMA as 2 things here in the forums (when people mention CDMA), a technology and a network. The technology has been around for a while, used a lot by the military. It's outstanding and by no means a dead technology. In fact, it's good enough to use as the air-interface for GSM. It scales very well (high call volume), no mapping of towers and covers a greater distance (less towers). As a network, CDMA is being replaced by LTE. My guess is the CDMA part will stay working for 10 to as many as 15 years. They have so much coverage, I wouldn't turn it off anytime in the near future.
I just hope it happens soon. Not because I want it, but because I'm sick of hearing about that bloody Verizon!
Are you that dumb? It was Verizon who turned down Apple, which let them only ATT as a large enough company to support them. Now Verizon's CEO is on his knees begging Steve for the Iphone!
That's going to stop the unlocking industry on those phones - won't it? I thought with CDMA you have to call your provider and provide them the special number for them to activate the phone on their network.
CDMA is old technology. Here in Australia, CDMA was shut down years ago and replaced with NextG or UMTS. No CDMA phones work in Australia anymore. I think its about time the US dumped CDMA, as it appears Australia is well advanced technologically than the US in mobile networks. Im proud im Australian
Actually, GSM is the older of the 2 techs. And CDMA is superior in the airlink.
CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) as a underlying tech is older. But it's implementation into cellular is newer than GSM's TDMA.
Yep, like the iPhone.
So by that logic, the smart phone industry was so crap that another crap device revolutionized it.
I do too - and love the $15/month unlimited data+200 texts plan compared to what users of newer iPhones have to pay. Browsing is slow but it's still a fine device for calls/email/iPod and the occasional map or app usage. I've also never had dropped call issues.
The iPhone 4 hardware is finally a worthwhile upgrade but I will probably wait to see what CDMA carrier it lands on. Where I live Sprint coverage is excellent and I would actually prefer it to pricey Verizon. Sprint might also put some pressure on ATT to cut data/text costs.
Ugh... CDMA? Really? With VZW pushing LTE out to the masses this fall/winter, why wouldn't they want to push out an LTE version? CDMA doesn't make sense to me.
Ummm, because CDMA isn't going anywhere any time soon and LTE will be data only upon launch.
It's really no different than when Apple first launched the iPhone, only to release the iPhone 3G the following year. What's to stop Apple from doing the same with EvDO/LTE?
Good... it should be about the carriers. We need to push them to be more competitive with each other. You can already see what's come of competition on the hardware/software side. Apple and Google have done some awesome things.
Ending iPhone exclusivity in the US will level the playing field some and the carriers will have to focus on things they need to focus on in order to gain an advantage... network, speeds, price.
First I love the verizon haters but second I got lots a love for apple I have an iMac and Macbook pro but also have a droid because I have a 5 phone family plan so I just can't wait for this to come out.
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Talk and chew gum?
Most of the CDMA implementations i've seen still don't support simultaneous voice and data. Is this going to change with this iPhone release?
Most of the CDMA implementations i've seen still don't support simultaneous voice and data. Is this going to change with this iPhone release?
While it is a nice feature, and it has come in handy for me a couple of times in the past two years of using my 3G, I'd happily give it up so I CAN HAVE A PHONE THAT WORKS HERE IN ARIZONA!
Geez people, it is all about the network that WORKS in places that you need it most. AT&T and its' rural partner T-Mobile is dismal here when you get out of the metro areas. I have a Scottsdale address, yet I have no service (outside of my MicroCell) for NINE miles until I hit a more 'populated' area. At the same time I have full coverage with my work provided VZ BB. And the sad thing is, AT&T is not going to do a damn thing about it.
There was an interesting rumor posted on this site in May, 2010:
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/19/verizon-to-support-simultaneous-voice-and-data-transmission/
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/19/verizon-to-support-simultaneous-voice-and-data-transmission/
VoRA/SVDO will allow simultaneous voice & data. ETA on this going live on VZW is still unknown. VoRA has been through proof of concept testing but nothing yet on a full network-wide deployment.
SVDO is more dependent on device makers.
1) How do YOU know when Apples contract with AT&T ends? Answer: You Dont.
2) Curious WHY you are so adamant that there wont be a Jan announcement?
Whats "silly" about it? Why "Isnt It Happening"?
Please back up your statements with facts.
Choice good, this choice is bad
If I migrate to Verizon, I will lose:
My coverage here in Chicagoland is pretty good. Hopefully more options will put pricing pressure on all the providers.
Does Verizon have a $15 a month data plan?
If I migrate to Verizon, I will lose:
- My rollover minutes
- Concurrent voice/data access
- High speed GSM access (Verizon capped at 3mb....AT&T already at 7.2mb)
- free wifi access at any AT&T hotspot
My coverage here in Chicagoland is pretty good. Hopefully more options will put pricing pressure on all the providers.
Does Verizon have a $15 a month data plan?
You will have to wait for Apple to tell you. When they are ready to start taking CDMA iPhone orders, you will find information at www.apple.com.