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Looking DOWN at the screen? How uncomfortable for the neck, head and eyes will that turn out to be?

Certainly looks cool and all, but it's totally useless imo.


Well, apart from the touchscreen aspect of things, it would be great to have a Mac screen that doesn't have to be positioned vertically. I've never really understood why vertical has been the default. Why should I have to keep looking up? When you write on a piece of paper, you never think of holding it against a wall; you normally place it on a flat surface. When you read a book, it's either on a table (in say, a library or schoolroom setting) or held in the hands in the preferred position - which is never holding it up vertically. When I use a laptop I always angle the screen right back and look slightly down on it - I never position it vertically. And there's some good ergonomic research to back all this up.
 
Pretty much every all in one tilts. Bear in mind there is a huge difference between tilting (what the Apple patent covers) and going full horizontal (not covered by the Apple patent).

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/lenovo-c325-all-in-one-desktop-pc-11290999-pdt.html
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/asus-et2210euks-22-all-in-one-pc-11361455-pdt.html
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/asus-et2410iuts-b030c-24-all-in-one-pc-11361554-pdt.html
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/lenovo-ideacentre-b520-all-in-one-pc-11290916-pdt.html

(Note: these are models I've actually had a play with in my local store - obviously there are a LOT more by other companies)

Thanks but I thought it obvious I was referring to an all-in-one that tilted the way the Apple patent showed.
 
What happens when youre in school?

I highly doubt your school experience consisted (consists?) of keeping your head down, stationary and fixated on something sitting directly in front of your chest. Students are often paying attention to information being presented on a black or white board. This act of switching positions (desk to board) is better for you but still not at good as looking almost directly straight forward. We must also remember that children have a higher tolerance for bad posture.

Is your argument that school desks are the perfect ergonomic design?
 
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It's not like Mac Machine

Maybe like the design from Apple, but its interface and how to use from Microsoft.
I've trial this touch screen on the Dell machine ... and play a game. This idea has been so long ..:p
That already exist on a tablet computer in 2008..:eek: (Very Old idea)

And this model Redesign from Microsoft idea:eek:
 
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Ok, the concept is awesome...but isn't this just a 27" iPad on a hinged display?

What I wasn't impressed with was the sluggish response from the computer. The OS is garbage.

If Apple has already patented this, then we know that Apple has something similar only WAY more innovative, sexy and stable coming up...I can't wait!
 
Jesus, everything at CES this year looks like an Apple product. They are even copying Apple down to their keynote slideshows. Seriously pathetic.
 
Apple invented touch and post PC devices

Now Microsoft and its partners are gonna destroy it.....Nobody wants a touchscreen desktop computer. Its impossible to use more than 5 min because of pain in your arm

So thank you Microsoft for trying to limitate users online time to 5 min per hour.
 
No disagreement there, but Steve openly rejected the thought of a touch screen Mac in their 2010 keynote.

Well, Steve also said - in his condescending manner - that nobody wants to see video on a small portable media player. That's when iPod's still had click wheel's and the market was flooding with MP4 playback, touchscreen capable devices etc. We all know how that story goes on...

Bottom line: doesn't matter what Steve Jobs once said. He corrected himself so many times in his lifetime, Apple surely continues to do so whenever they see a good market opportunity.
 
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Dear Apple, Please copy this all-in-one.

Sorry, I mean please re-invent or revolutionize this kind of all-in-one.
 
Amazing spin

...While Apple has yet to release such a product and may have scrapped the idea entirely...

CES 2012: Lenovo Brings Apple's Touchscreen iMac Concept to Life

MacRumours has certainly raised the bar for blind fanaticism with this headline.

Lenovo tweaks the form factor for HP TouchSmart desktops, and MR claims that it's a copy of an Apple idea.
 
Apple invented touch and post PC devices

Now Microsoft and its partners are gonna destroy it.....Nobody wants a touchscreen desktop computer. Its impossible to use more than 5 min because of pain in your arm

So thank you Microsoft for trying to limitate users online time to 5 min per hour.

You are aware, aren't you, that you can, like, rest your elbow on your desk, lift your forearm straight up, and jab at stuff on the screen from that position? I bet you could use a touchscreen desktop for HOURS that way.

..or if you have the screen along the edge of the desk, tilted at a horizontal angle, you could rest your elbow on the arm of your chair, and do the exact same thing. I mean holy crap. It's like you're all completely incapable of thinking of such novel concepts as body positioning.

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You use a tablet for 8 or more hours a day for at least 5 days a week? That must hurt.

The way things are going with tablets, that'll eventually be a standard work week. I guess you better start steeling yourself for all that hellish amount of looking down at a slight angle you're gonna have to subject yourself to.
 
Peace;[URL="tel:14140439" said:
14140439[/URL]]Thanks but I thought it obvious I was referring to an all-in-one that tilted the way the Apple patent showed.
Read the actual patent claims.
The way it tilts has nothing to do with the patent. ;)
The patent covers the sensors embedded in the hinge and display and how the movement is interpreted by the OS to switch input methods.
 
Apple invented touch and post PC devices

Now Microsoft and its partners are gonna destroy it.....Nobody wants a touchscreen desktop computer. Its impossible to use more than 5 min because of pain in your arm

So thank you Microsoft for trying to limitate users online time to 5 min per hour.

Look, blind fanaticism is not going to get you anywhere. Inform yourself before you argue. Apple popularized touch devices, not invent them. A simple Google search or even looking at a Wikipedia entry could supplement that history.

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Anyway, Lenovo could have a better product if they waited for Windows 8, which is intended to be touch based with the Metro design.

Ergonomically, I see the device comparable to the Cintiqs from Wacom. It would be like writing or drawing on a piece of paper position wise, but the difference is the kind of utility (and maybe even screen) being used. I like the tactile feeling of using a grip pen; a capacitive stylus cannot compare to it.
 
Apple invented touch and post PC devices

Now Microsoft and its partners are gonna destroy it.....Nobody wants a touchscreen desktop computer. Its impossible to use more than 5 min because of pain in your arm

So thank you Microsoft for trying to limitate users online time to 5 min per hour.

Touchscreen Milestones

1983: HP150
1993: First Smartphone, the IBM Simon
1996: Palm PDA
2002: Microsoft XP Tablet
2007: Apple's iPhone

(and countless ATM mashines in between lol)

Touchscreen (and flatscreen) technology went through many years of evolution. Apple was smart and had a great sense for timing, having a consumer product ready at the time the technology was available for mass market production. But they certainly did not invent touchscreen.

BTW: what is this "post PC world" thing? Last I looked, iMac's, MBP's and MB Air's are "PC's" running MacOS. And PC sales - Windows and MacOS based - are up. Worldwide.

If anything, it goes the other way: "Full PC" OS's are soon taking over Mobile OS's. The biggest OS maker in the world is doing it with Win8. That creates reality. The others will follow. By 2014, everyone expect's full notebook functionallity from a tablet.

So, there is no "post PC World". There is only a world with PC's with different form factors. Evolution, not Revolution.
 
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Steve Jobs would laugh your comment out of this thread.

Here's why: when using a touch display, how long do you think your arms can stand being lifted straight forward vs. resting down on a flat surface?

I sometimes wonder.. do people just bring down non-apple products for the sake of it or because they believe apple's execution of anything and everything is the only acceptable way of doing something???

Steve Jobs and Jon Ive would laugh your comment out of the room too. They have iPad stands for a reason. Heck even the Apple iPad covers have options to rest your iPad on the desk at an angle. So you can use the iPad not totally flat on the desk. Then you are not directly looking down at it.

Apple thought about a totally flat iPad on a desk and thought it was a bad idea.
 
Considering How Steve did not like using touch interface on vertical surfaces due to arm fatigue, I can see the reason he implemented a tilting screen to more of a horizontal position for comfort reasons.

honestly if Apple did this I suspect it wouldn't be a convertible computer at all.

what it might be is a low angle computer that would in some ways be like a giant iPad with a pop up soft keyboard (perhaps triggered by a small button or some kind of gesture) and the option to use a blue tooth keyboard and perhaps even trackpad if you would rather. But the insides would be computer level specs. Perhaps instead of the chin all the guts would be in a kind of wedge under the screen

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Of course I also want it to be a Wacom Cintiq at the same time. *sigh*

That kind of sensitivity etc in the screen would be awesome. and probably possible in a larger model.

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Well, Steve also said - in his condescending manner - that nobody wants to see video on a small portable media player. That's when iPod's still had click wheel's and the market was flooding with MP4 playback, touchscreen capable devices etc. We all know how that story goes on...

When did he say it and when did the video iPod come out.

If it was a a period of months that's one thing. If we are talking 2-3 years then at the time that he made the comment that was perhaps a true comment. And then tastes changed. Happens all the time
 
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That kind of sensitivity etc in the screen would be awesome. and probably possible in a larger model.
Size is irrelevant.
HP put a Wacom digitizer in their Slate 500 tablet PC that works beautifully.
That screen is only 8.9 inches.
 
Looks like another Patent lawsuit waiting to happen.

Except Apple has nothing to sue on here ;). They applied for a patent with a drawing that closely resembles a couple products already on the market, including the Cintiq line produced by Wacom as already mentioned in the thread. The larger cintiq tablets are quite a lot like what is pictured in the Apple patent application, and they precede it. Let's see who sues who:rolleyes:.
 
Except Apple has nothing to sue on here ;). They applied for a patent with a drawing that closely resembles a couple products already on the market, including the Cintiq line produced by Wacom as already mentioned in the thread. The larger cintiq tablets are quite a lot like what is pictured in the Apple patent application, and they precede it. Let's see who sues who:rolleyes:.

Its hilarious how the apple fanboys seem to think they should get sued over apple's non-applied idea.

I have millions of ideas I've drawn on paper. That does warrant a million patents or the ability to pull a Steve Jobs and sue the hell out of everyone.
 
No disagreement there, but Steve openly rejected the thought of a touch screen Mac in their 2010 keynote.

Oh, yes. And he also said he wasn't interested in video on iPods. Sometimes he said things which were deceptions.

Frankly, I'm not sure I want this. Windows isn't very touchy-feely.

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Its hilarious how the apple fanboys seem to think they should get sued over apple's non-applied idea.

I have millions of ideas I've drawn on paper. That does warrant a million patents or the ability to pull a Steve Jobs and sue the hell out of everyone.

Do you have your ideas patented? Why no, I guess you don't.
 
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