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Oh, yes. And he also said he wasn't interested in video on iPods. Sometimes he said things which were deceptions.

Frankly, I'm not sure I want this. Windows isn't very touchy-feely.

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Do you have your ideas patented? Why no, I guess you don't.

Of couse not, I dont have a product, much like Apple doesn't either.
 
I wonder if the screen is plastic or glass. Usually the copies are plastic. Also I wonder if the rest is plastic or aluminium. Usually the copies are plastic. I wonder if they copied the Snow Leopard wallpaper or they went to space and took a photo of it. Usually no one copies Apple wallpapers.. until now.


I also think imagine if there was no Apple around. The innovation of today would definitely be the innovation of tomorrow. Apple is without a doubt the first to the ideas that work and sure other companies could do it but not before Apple thinks of it.

I wonder if I will get downrated for stating obvious things. I wonder...
 
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Back in 2010, an Apple patent publication was published revealing the company's concept for an iMac supporting both mouse-driven and touch-based input with a hinged display arm allowing the screen to transition from an upright position to a horizontal surface.

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While Apple has yet to release such a product and may have scrapped the idea entirely, Lenovo's new IdeaCentre A720 being shown off at CES this week (via Engadget) offers a similar flexibility in its ability to transition between a traditional all-in-one desktop configuration and a flat, table-top touch surface.The Verge also posts a hands-on video showing the IdeaCentre A720 in use in both upright and horizontal positions.

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The hands-on demonstration shows a rather sluggish response to touch input, but offers a good glimpse of the flexibility afforded by the multiple orientations.

Apple's patent application included descriptions of sensors that would automatically detect the orientation of the display and adjust the operating system being used accordingly, with the idea being that the computer would utilize a Mac OS X interface in its upright orientation and then transition to an iOS-like touch overlay interface when moved to the horizontal display. While Lenovo's concept does not utilize this automatic sensing, it does offer Lenovo's dedicated IdeaTouch layer on top of Windows 7, which itself allows for touch input.

Article Link: CES 2012: Lenovo Brings Apple's Touchscreen iMac Concept to Life

This has got to be the worst thing I have seen didnt even work properly. Other tech company so dont get design and making like apple do. I love how they like to copy Apple's design, then try there absolute best at being better and then just FAIL!!!. Give up the get go now lenovo your RUBBISH!!!. Once a black suit always a black suit. Innovative my ass.
 
Seems like all this new touchscreen tech is only good for one thing..... playing games like angry birds :rolleyes:
 
I have enough trouble cleaning my 27" iMacs screen. The idea of a touchscreen iMac really doesn't appeal at all. For that I have my phone and my iPad.

I would guess that Apple have probably abandoned this idea. If they do produce one, I hope they retain the present format as well. Come upgrade time, I don't want to have buy a touchscreen model!
 
The girl holding the device is included in the package ? Otherwise, I don't think it will be comfortable after a while using it. It's very possible that the hands will hurt after long use in this angle.
 
I have enough trouble cleaning my 27" iMacs screen. The idea of a touchscreen iMac really doesn't appeal at all. For that I have my phone and my iPad.

I would guess that Apple have probably abandoned this idea. If they do produce one, I hope they retain the present format as well. Come upgrade time, I don't want to have buy a touchscreen model!

haha exactly. I doubt apple will make the iMac touch screen. No one wants to use touch on a 27" screen plus it would add more price to the cost for something probably not going to be used. They have the iPad for this so that is another reason why they wouldn't do it. Cleaning would be a major issue. Apple wants their products to look clean and sparkling on and off shelf (consumer office) for marketing purposes. A finger printed screen would not give an Apple computer the clean association.

Funny though, as soon as a rumor pops up about Apple going for touch screen iMac(2 years ago I think) everyone immediately jumps on it. It is as if everyone has been proven wrong the in the last few years thinking that Apple won't make it and it is just a useless unwanted gimmick especially with the iPad approach. A lot of people were calling it a useless oversized iPod and then when everyone started buying, all of the competitors had a heart attack and started work on their own tablet devices immediately. You always get the people who love to fight the obvious but you cannot say that iPad didn't start the tablet revolution. Before iPad, 1 in 100,000 computers were a tablet. Now it is 1 in 20.

Poor competitors for jumping on this rumor. It is not going to work out well and most likely Apple will not follow through with the rumor then all the laughs will be pointed at the sheep competitors and oletros.

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It's only a matter of when now.

when their hardware can run the software without lag and missclicks :p and develop their own keyboard instead of Apple's keyboard :)
 
Thanks but I thought it obvious I was referring to an all-in-one that tilted the way the Apple patent showed.

And how exactly do they not? They use a hinge on the back of the monitor, which is basically what the Apple patent covers. Its so pathetically generic that they wouldn't stand a chance.

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I wonder if the screen is plastic or glass. Usually the copies are plastic.

:confused: Copies of what exactly? Please point us in the direction of another computer that goes horizontal that looks almost identical.

Newsflash: Apple has no rights or trademark on using aluminum to make a computer. If another company uses the same materials, that does not automatically mean that the product was first thought of by Apple.

If someone came out with a toaster made out of brushed aluminum with a black 'bezel' (BORDER!!!) around the top, does that mean Apple thought of that toaster design first? No.
 
And how exactly do they not? They use a hinge on the back of the monitor, which is basically what the Apple patent covers. Its so pathetically generic that they wouldn't stand a chance.

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:confused: Copies of what exactly? Please point us in the direction of another computer that goes horizontal that looks almost identical.

Newsflash: Apple has no rights or trademark on using aluminum to make a computer. If another company uses the same materials, that does not automatically mean that the product was first thought of by Apple.

If someone came out with a toaster made out of brushed aluminum with a black 'bezel' (BORDER!!!) around the top, does that mean Apple thought of that toaster design first? No.

I think you misinterpreted my post. I was implying that knockoffs are usually made of plastic and the build quality is less. If I was to develop a tech product I would shoot for the aluminium and glass.

A screen that goes horizontal would be a cintiq and also my 7 year old 24" HP w2408H
 
Its hilarious how the apple fanboys seem to think they should get sued over apple's non-applied idea.

I have millions of ideas I've drawn on paper. That does warrant a million patents or the ability to pull a Steve Jobs and sue the hell out of everyone.

I gave them somewhat of an explanation below. I don't know why they believe you can patent an unoriginal idea with no prototype simply because it bears Steve's signature. Also I found it amusing that anytime someone in an internet video talks about playing games via a touch screen UI, it always ends up on Angry Birds :rolleyes:.


Do you have your ideas patented? Why no, I guess you don't.

So uh, you have no idea how patents work? That's cool.

Guys....you don't need to be hateful here. I (and a couple others) posted that the concept has been around for some time in actual use, so prior art + prior products. This is just one of those fuzzy vague patent applications, and I can't find any info on if it was just a patent application or if it was ever granted. No one is copying an Apple product here, and the idea was already out there. Seeing as there's no actual product, no claims of reverse engineering can be made. They can't copy code, gestures, or physical engineering of a product. At most you can claim that they built something in anticipation of the competition, which is not grounds for a lawsuit.

Even that hinge design is seen on Cintiq + a few Cintiq accessories. That line came out in the 1990s. The design which more resembles the Apple setup came out around a decade ago. It's used on the 21 and 23" models which didn't come out until later due to the cost of panels (first one was 15").
 
Looking DOWN at the screen? How uncomfortable for the neck, head and eyes will that turn out to be?

Certainly looks cool and all, but it's totally useless imo.

umm... people looked down at a desktop to work for.... well... at least 2000 years (probably a lot longer) before desktop computers and monitors were invented...
 
The way things are going with tablets, that'll eventually be a standard work week. I guess you better start steeling yourself for all that hellish amount of looking down at a slight angle you're gonna have to subject yourself to.

I'm willing to bet that I'll never face being forced to work in a non-ergonomic job environment. I'm just lucky to live in the US, and California, where we have laws to protect us at work. :)
 
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You put anything in an aluminium body and everyone jumps on the "they're ripping off apple" band wagon. Microsoft developed the first touch screen PC back around 2007.

Seems like a great idea though and I hope apple comes out with something similar.
 
I do believe Apple does have a patent on the tilting screen for their all in one pc's.

It's nowhere near the first meaning they can patent theirs, but they cannot patent the actual concept. Even if they did, it would be a worthless patent. They'd have to patent something new. Patent laws aren't just there to go back and lay claim to backdated items.;)
 
I wonder if the screen is plastic or glass. Usually the copies are plastic. Also I wonder if the rest is plastic or aluminium. Usually the copies are plastic. I wonder if they copied the Snow Leopard wallpaper or they went to space and took a photo of it. Usually no one copies Apple wallpapers.. until now.


I also think imagine if there was no Apple around. The innovation of today would definitely be the innovation of tomorrow. Apple is without a doubt the first to the ideas that work and sure other companies could do it but not before Apple thinks of it.

I wonder if I will get downrated for stating obvious things. I wonder...

Usually copies use Gorilla Glass screens. Apple does not.
Also Apple does not "think", people at Apple do. And those are the same people that work at other companies (and they change employers frequently too)
 
1920 by 1080 on a 27" display? That can't be pretty...
It's an HD display... how can it not be pretty?
1920x1080 = HD ;)

Most desktop displays are much lower resolution.

I do believe Apple does have a patent on the tilting screen for their all in one pc's.
No, they don't.
They have a patent for how the sensors in the hinges and behind the display work in conjunction with the OS to change input methods based on the position of the display.
The patent is very specific and there are other ways to achieve the same results without infringing this patent.
 
I don’t envision two different OS’s or interfaces (like Metro) on one machine, though. In the long run, when this is done right, I see ONE interface, with touch as the primary mode. Raising to vertical would be mainly for group video-viewing and for games with physical controls.

But since this would, in the long run, be a full PRO system that I envision, keyboard and mouse would also be present for precision and rapid typing. They’d be optional, but would work when needed, especially for precision pro graphics apps (and as an accessibility feature). Many apps might have no mouse support at all because by then, it won’t even be wanted. (Or, pro graphics apps could have a mouse-style cursor mode with NO mouse needed: an editing mode where the screen becomes a trackpad, like using iTeleport on iPad, and you have an aimable pixel-precise arrow.)

So there would still be a touch-only iOS and a “pro” OS (be it OS X, iOS, or some hybrid) but you wouldn’t be changing gears on one machine.

I also envision the screen being super-wide-format: a way to get lots of working area, without having to reach way back (tiring). Maybe 12” deep by 30” wide or something. Wrist protection in software will be key of course, and we’ll have multiple apps side by side—maybe in columns—unlike an iPad.

And for the optional physical keyboard: something with just 3-4 rows (F keys gone or using a modifier) so it could butt right up against the tablet edge without pushing the screen far away from you.

IOS and OSX are the same DNA though. I too agree, that Apple would probably want a more elegant solution than switching between... but, even having an imac switch between the two is a big difference than what MS is trying to do with Windows 8, which really is two different operating systems.

I actually think the next desktop version for the Mac (and almost wondering if it won't finally be OSX11) might be more hyrbid. Lion, really was just IOS like lip stick. It shows where Apple is heading, but I really think it was poorly done and not Apple's best showing. I think it was a baby step though.

Touch input does have a place in the near future... but I wonder if the sluggishness of some of these pc systems isn't that they had to shortcut with the screen to make them affordable. I imagine that the only reason Apple hasn't done this themselves yet (especially with Lion being a perfect time) would be how expensive and limited a quality touch screen of that size would be to stick in a machine. HP's touch computers are all garbage.
 
Touch input does have a place in the near future... but I wonder if the sluggishness of some of these pc systems isn't that they had to shortcut with the screen to make them affordable. I imagine that the only reason Apple hasn't done this themselves yet (especially with Lion being a perfect time) would be how expensive and limited a quality touch screen of that size would be to stick in a machine. HP's touch computers are all garbage.
It has nothing to do with the screen quality, it's all about hardware acceleration.
The problem with the HP touchscreen computers is not the quality of the screen's touch sensor, it's the OS behind it.
Windows 7 is not a touch friendly OS and not optimized to be used in that manner.
It simply sucks for touch based input.

Windows 8 on the other hand, is developed from the ground up with touch as the primary form of interaction while still supporting standard input devices.
These vendors have the hardware ready... they're using W7 as a band-aid until W8 is ready to go.
 
I hate to burst anyones bubble but this product has been on the market for a few years now, although the computer isn't built in you simply plug it into one.
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IOS and OSX are the same DNA though. I too agree, that Apple would probably want a more elegant solution than switching between... but, even having an imac switch between the two is a big difference than what MS is trying to do with Windows 8, which really is two different operating systems.

I actually think the next desktop version for the Mac (and almost wondering if it won't finally be OSX11) might be more hyrbid. Lion, really was just IOS like lip stick. It shows where Apple is heading, but I really think it was poorly done and not Apple's best showing. I think it was a baby step though.

Touch input does have a place in the near future... but I wonder if the sluggishness of some of these pc systems isn't that they had to shortcut with the screen to make them affordable. I imagine that the only reason Apple hasn't done this themselves yet (especially with Lion being a perfect time) would be how expensive and limited a quality touch screen of that size would be to stick in a machine. HP's touch computers are all garbage.

The whole ios and osx being the same thing is no more similar than how linux and android are the same thing. Very little between the two are actually similar other than the kernel.
 
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