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Please stop claiming EV is saving the planet. These cars are significantly more environmentally detrimental due to mining resources for the batteries alone and currently something like 25% of total global carbon emissions comes from producing electricity today. EV could be a solution in the future, but today they are only a burden on an aging energy grid that is too slow to change to renewable non-polluting sources of energy. EV today is for pretentious ass-hats that don't have a clue about the planet while thinking their $100k car is saving it.
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Note: All our five Tesla's in Spain run on 100% solar energy.
 
Please stop claiming EV is saving the planet. These cars are significantly more environmentally detrimental due to mining resources for the batteries alone and currently something like 25% of total global carbon emissions comes from producing electricity today. EV could be a solution in the future, but today they are only a burden on an aging energy grid that is too slow to change to renewable non-polluting sources of energy. EV today is for pretentious ass-hats that don't have a clue about the planet while thinking their $100k car is saving it.
I'm planning to install solar to charge my $40K Tesla, and also power most if not all of my home. There's EV today and EV next year (when my Model 3 should be delivered).

Remember when pretentious ass-hats stockpiled incandescent bulbs because they wanted to burn as much coal as possible producing light as inefficiently as they could? They framed their high utility bills so they could show them off to all their friends.

Oil prices are going up again, judging by the prices I see at the pump.
 
As much as I love cars, I just don't understand whats the reason of so much power especially on the streets.

It's classic automotive flash over substance.

I am now the owner of a 2017 Chevy Bolt EV. If EVs have a future, it's in cars like the Bolt, which fill an actual transportation need, not electronic hotrods.
 
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It's classic automotive flash over substance.

I am now the owner of a 2017 Chevy Bolt EV. If EVs have a future, it's in cars like the Bolt, which fill an actual transportation need, not electronic hotrods.
So..a car, even a "hotrod", doesn't fill a transportation need? The person driving it I am sure feels that it does.
 
So what if a car is 0000.1 seconds faster than a Tesla. Is that all a car is? It's like saying a PC tablet is better than a Mac Ipad because it opens a an application 0000.1 seconds faster? What about the other parts of the car? The control, cost, features ect..
 
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Autonomous driving is Bull (S1 E10)
https://www.tvfanatic.com/2017/01/bull-season-1-episode-10-review-ej/

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Make a car that maxes out at 100mph, has ok power, has auto parking or at least drive assist (lane warnings, front/rear collision detection), doesn't look like a pill, and finally doesnt cost 50-200k and Ill be interested. These EVs are just toys for people who live in fancy neighborhoods to drive around in.
 
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As much as I love cars, I just don't understand whats the reason of so much power especially on the streets.

eventually when all cars are autonomous we will be traveling at much greater speeds with less accidents. That would be the logical reason in my opinion, sadly I believe as of right now it is just a show of who creates the car that goes the fastest to 60.
 
Please stop claiming EV is saving the planet. These cars are significantly more environmentally detrimental due to mining resources for the batteries alone and currently something like 25% of total global carbon emissions comes from producing electricity today. EV could be a solution in the future, but today they are only a burden on an aging energy grid that is too slow to change to renewable non-polluting sources of energy. EV today is for pretentious ass-hats that don't have a clue about the planet while thinking their $100k car is saving it.

Your wrong. Early adopters of these products are going to help drive the cost down significantly and they are making a valuable contribution to pay for the R&D for this and future generations of the technology.

And specifically mining the resources to make the battery on this car does not come close to the pollution of extracting, refining, shipping and burning the gasoline in a car for decade. Your off by a lot.

Also while many parts of the world rely on carbon resources to produce electricity, this is changing and it will certainly change a lot for the life of these cars (i.e., 2018 through 2028 assuming these initial cars have a ten year life). Plus the suburban car purchaser who will park these cars in their garage can couple it will solar panels on their roof and reduce carbon emissions for the electricity production even further. And while the energy gird is aging in places like the U.S., I can assure you that Utilities are going to welcome the electricity draw that recharging EVs will add (though the amount is fairly negligible). Utilities want to sell electricity and the grid has no trouble delivering electricity to people's homes or to garages. A few thousand or even a few million of these EVs isn't going to stress anything and in fact with some programing and planning the batteries can help stabilize the grid.
 
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Please stop claiming EV is saving the planet. These cars are significantly more environmentally detrimental due to mining resources for the batteries alone

I believe what you're looking for is the Life Cycle Electric Vehicle Emissions by the Union of Concerned Scientists. http://www.ucsusa.org/clean-vehicles/electric-vehicles/life-cycle-ev-emissions#.WG05YneZO5M

The worst case is Colorado where you would get an equivalent of 35 mpg over the lifetime of the vehicle. The best case is upstate New York where you would get 135 mpg. Also the emissions over time in an electric vehicle get better as cleaner energy sources come online, unlike gasoline vehicles. Additionally pollution from power plants tend to be located away from city centers, whereas gasoline vehicles produce most of their pollution where people are living.
 
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True, they take from the grid which is still uses a lot of coal. But on the bright side if you look at how much cleaner the grid has gotten in the last 5 years there's a lot of hope.

Lots of coal in the U.S. But other places not so much. France is mainly Nukes. Germany gets over 30% of its energy from renewables (mainly wind) and this exceeds coal. And it will be cleaner by 2018 and significantly cleaner during life of these cars.
 
I like the competition, and I love how people are rethinking cars.

But I don't buy the hype of trickle down technological advancements. Sure, the common folk will eventually be able to get an EV for $12,000 or so ... and maybe the common family may be able to get a car that can actually hold two or three car seats for children for around $25,000 ... but until then, the EV hype is just for people that only worry about the environment because it's the "IN" thing to do.

If 90% of the Americans (who use the most energy) can't afford or can't use the standard EV then we're not doing enough to save the environment.
 
The feature set is way to aggressive to make it into a production car. They've included every fantasy option there is. I don't believe for a moment that a new company can pull that off with their first vehicle.
 
They are out of money and their suppliers will no longer ship to them because they have months of unpaid bills. I think this announcement is a last ditch effort get some additional private capital and to sucker people into giving them $5,000 for deposits that will never be returned when the company collapses.
 
I miss the extra's for the passengers; comfort and so. This is a traditional car with, Yes, batteries. Halleluja....not now, not ever. This is just making a car like so many others. No vision.
 
They are out of money and their suppliers will no longer ship to them because they have months of unpaid bills. I think this announcement is a last ditch effort get some additional private capital and to sucker people into giving them $5,000 for deposits that will never be returned when the company collapses.
Faraday Future is probably hoping Tim Cook will snap Siri in the dashboard and slap an Apple logo on the back.
 
I like the competition, and I love how people are rethinking cars.

But I don't buy the hype of trickle down technological advancements. Sure, the common folk will eventually be able to get an EV for $12,000 or so ... and maybe the common family may be able to get a car that can actually hold two or three car seats for children for around $25,000 ... but until then, the EV hype is just for people that only worry about the environment because it's the "IN" thing to do.

If 90% of the Americans (who use the most energy) can't afford or can't use the standard EV then we're not doing enough to save the environment.

You may not buy the "hype of trickle down technological advancements", but it has been part of the auto industry for decades. You wouldn't have anti-lock brakes, disc brakes, power steering, collision mitigation braking and steering, etc., if it weren't for the fact that some automakers invest in these advancements and a customer base is willing to pay for them - and generally pay significant amounts to be early adopters.
 
So..a car, even a "hotrod", doesn't fill a transportation need? The person driving it I am sure feels that it does.

They are designed to fulfill an individual need to show off. I get fast cars, I really do. But we should not pretend that building yet another very fast and very costly EV is of any real consequence in terms of satisfying the need of more than a handful of individuals.
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Make a car that maxes out at 100mph, has ok power, has auto parking or at least drive assist (lane warnings, front/rear collision detection), doesn't look like a pill, and finally doesnt cost 50-200k and Ill be interested. These EVs are just toys for people who live in fancy neighborhoods to drive around in.

Chevrolet Bolt EV.
 
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