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Looks interesting. Until Apple starts including multiple inputs on their monitors, I don't think I'll be buying an Apple display again. It's just too useful a feature to have that even the cheapest monitors have. Be it for plugging a Windows machine in or a MacBook. I spent years wasting money on fancy KVMs that could handle Apple's displays when it really shouldn't have been needed.
 
As anyone who reads my posts know, I have a LOT of Apple stuff but am definitely no fanboy. I consider things fully as a consumer FIRST and thus can criticize Apple where I see justification and praise them when I see it that way. To me, it is never just blind brand loyalty no matter what. I prioritize consumer above brand/company.

When my last iMac conked, I was looking forward to the rumored Mac Mini PRO or MAX. Rumors implied great power at a value price. Of course, that didn't show, so I ended up with a fat Mini at a much greater than anticipated price. I purchased in the hall of echoes of "us" spinning how one reason Apple can switch to Silicon is to break with paying the Intel premium, meaning "new Macs at lower prices"... but we know how that turned out. I feel that Mac Studio is priced too high- especially if you buy more storage/SSD but I needed a Mac replacement, the high-value iMac 27" was deprecated, and was not ready to jump to a full Windows environment.

Somewhat forced into a separates mentality (having to throw out that perfectly good iMac screen only because the Mac guts went bad), I shopped for an ideal monitor for my needs and ended up with a Dell 40" 5K2K ultra-wide. To my good eyes, the screen looks just as good as the prior iMac screen but now there is a lot more of it (width)... much more working space. That's particularly great for my purposes and now I could never go back to an approx 16:10 format like this one or Apple Studio Display.

I much appreciate Dell's built-in KVM approach to ports, as relatively little of the world outside our Apple bubble has fully embraced USB-c or Thunderbolt and having a good mix of standardized ports makes it easy to work with about anything without dongles/hubs/special cables. Just about every type of jack I may need is available to me.

I also GREATLY appreciate more than one video input without a hub or dongles. Since my world is "working Mac", I also need to sometimes run some Windows software. Windows for ARM is not necessarily Windows (for all), so I went with a Mac Mini-like PC for old-fashioned bootcamp (2 computers instead of 1). Since the KVM hub has more than one video input, I can basically share the monitor between both systems without having to swap cables. The monitor can even split screen to have Mac left and PC right or vice versa, both sharing the same keyboard and mouse.

I didn't have to pay extra for Vesa or stand or swivel or height adjustment. And it all "just works."

Bezel and case are plastic but that has so little to do with use, I'm dazzled how much of a deal some of "us" try to make it. None of my friends or clients have ever complimented my monitor cases- whether Apple or now this Dell- only the screen quality (the part we look at most). Once Apple people see what macOS can look like on this ultra-wide, they tend to want an ultra-wide themselves.

I look at this new monitor just announced and I see a not-$6K 6K monitor (that comes with fully adjustable stand, not one for $999 more) with a marketing emphasis on superior blacks.

The "cyclops" eye looks like stand alone, bigger cameras (see very high-rated stuff from Logitech and similar) which are often chosen to let more light in for a superior picture. Ever seen a YouTuber setup? They sometimes have a full-sized camcorder or SLR on a tripod peeking over the top of their screen. Why? They want the better quality image it can capture vs. some micro camera lens built into the bezel. "We" are pounding this as ugly vs. Apple's choice and yet Apple choice in Studio rolled out with a blur (since fixed) and that little lens is going to be limited in how much light it can accept vs. a bigger one forever after. We'll see if this is the reason Dell chose the bigger camera in future reviews but it at least seems plausible.

I see "us" ripping bezel size and yet we can passionately rationalize a notch and a chin, both even spun as "iconic." This is delivering a whole rectangle screen, not a rectangle with a bite out of it.

Dell will likely price this substantially below Apple's 32" ProDisplay and probably around the smaller, lower resolution Studio monitor with one choice of adjustable stand.

Now I get this is not an Apple product so the rules say we must hate it... that we must scour the specs to try to find any spec where Apple has a better number and then blow that spec out of proportion as if it is some ultra-important thing... etc. But what I see here is a bigger screen (much wanted in threads around here), with hiDPI resolution (much spun as why most other bigger screens are no good and thus anyone should buy only Apple monitors) and 6K vs. 5K which delivers even more screen RE. Yes, the top "notch" is edge to edge but the 6K is still delivering more much more screen RE than Studio display without requiring the leap to a $5K-$6K monitor plus $1000 stand.

We'll see if Cyclops means superior image capture through a larger lens. That seems very likely to me, else Dell could have put a comparable tiny camera unit in their abundant notch. Better front-facing camera quality is something "we" usually want and this might be one way to get it without:
  • putting a full camcorder or SLR on a tripod or
  • getting a big lens third party camera to use in place of the little one or
  • propping a full iPhone rectangle above the top of a screen for Continuity Camera's better image capture.
Personally, I'll have no buying interest because I couldn't go back from the ultra-wide format. But I'm certainly able to keep a more open mind about competing technologies stepping up in key ways to offer some tangible competition to only two, VERY high-priced offerings from Apple. Competition is always good for us consumers. We should hope many other players bring their best shots at high-res, highDPI alternatives too. I'll be hoping Dell chooses to bring this darker blacks + big webcam tech to an updated version of the ultra-wide I have. Then, I'm very interested in buying that one.
 
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Please, no webcams and no speakers. Let me save money on the display by not including those, and let me use that money toward getting a webcam and speakers with the specs that I prefer.
I kinda agree (and the elephant in the room is that 140W power supply which is completely pointless with a Mac Mini or Studio) - but I think Dell & Samsung (like Apple with the Studio Display) are going for the one-cable laptop docking market because there are a lot more MacBooks out there than desktop Macs (increasingly so now that Apple Silicon has eroded the performance advantage that Mac desktops used to have over MacBooks). Also, it's clear from these forums that some people are pining for their 5k iMacs and want something close to an all-in-one solution to go with the Mac Mini.

"Economies of scale" are a huge factor in prices, so if a 'display only' monitor only sold to a niche of desktop users it could end up more expensive than a mass-market product with more "features". So you probably wouldn't "save" anything by going without the speakers & webcams.

On the other hand, you don't have to worry about the quality of features you don't need - I bet you an internet that the Dell and Samsung speakers & microphones sound like crud alongside the Apple Studio display (Apple are spookily good at making tiny speakers with no visible grilles) but who cares when they'll all sound bad c.f. the external soundcard and half-decent monitor speakers which anybody trying to do media creation will need.
 
I don’t think this will be cheaper than the apple display. Dell usually is a similar price point, especially their high end line which this will fall under.
 
The Apple Studio Display and Pro Display XDR have a killer feature I have never seen on any other non-Apple monitor... the ability to turn on 100% of the time and very quickly, too. With every other monitor I've ever owned, about 1/4 to 1/3 of the time, the picture just won't show and I have to reboot either the computer or the monitor to get it to come on.

I'd like to see a review of these two monitors (Dell and Samsung) to see if they have that ability. I doubt it. If they do, then they will be competitive as long as their pricing is good.
Sounds like a you issue tbh...
 
Lol, zero info about its HDR capabilities is sus
Zero info where? You're expecting MacRumors to spoon feed every technical detail?

From Dell's product page: VESA certified DisplayHDR™ 400

Might not be the HDR you're looking for, but the info is out there and not being hidden.
 
just me for my work I Stick to BenQ or Eizo or NEC and use a hood anyways :)
but good to see competition
all boils down to which one does the job for photo work and BenQ has been the best bang for buck IMHO
built in 4k could be good for dedicated zoom room setup in the studio but as said sometimes a external camera is better anyway ?
as far as other media for HDR that is what the TV is for again YMMV just what I do as a photographer for a living
 
I'd rather attach an external webcam when I need it... instead of looking at that large top bezel ALL THE TIME.

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Yeah Dell makes this tiny mistake but it's an eye sore. At least HP has their webcams retractable inside the display and without a huge top bezel.

but honestly ... "Pro Display XDR which does not come with a stand" this just should embarrass Apple!
 
Holy Wall of Text! Any chance of a TL;DR in there? ;)

Yes, just offering some counterpoint views purely as a consumer to 5 PAGES of general hate/disgust for tangible competition to very expensive and only 2 size options from Apple. This thing is a highDPI, higher resolution, 32" screen that countless posts all over this site are longing for from Apple. It also has a free, multi-adjustable stand and what is probably a superior front-facing camera on an assumption that it will let more light in... like those third-party 4K webcams. Dell being Dell, it will likely be very attractively priced... well below Apples $6K 32" monitor... possibly close to the 27" 5K Studio Display with one choice of stand and no KVM/hub.

I am VERY happy with the Dell screen I chose to pair with Mac Studio Ultra. I can't automatically see Dell and assume all bad-to-terrible because it is NOT branded Apple. Competition is good for all of us.
 
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This display is a huge deal. We have no proper alternatives in the market at this moment. The Pro Display XDR is $5,000 without a freaking stand and is pretty ancient at this point. We need a more affordable 6k option.

The webcam is indeed hideous. But I don't care as long as the display is much cheaper than the XDR.
 
That’s what Dell gets for sub contracting the design out to Tefal !

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Yes, just offering some counterpoint views purely as a consumer to 5 PAGES of general hate/disgust for tangible competition to very expensive and only 2 size options from Apple. This thing is a highDPI, higher resolution, 32" screen that countless posts all over this site are longing for from Apple. It also has a free, multi-adjustable stand and what is probably a superior front-facing camera on an assumption that it will let more light in... like those third-party 4K webcams. Dell being Dell, it will likely be very attractively priced... well below Apples $6K 32" monitor... possibly close to the 27" 5K Studio Display with one choice of stand and no KVM/hub.

I am VERY happy with the Dell screen I chose to pair with Mac Studio Ultra. I can't automatically see Dell and assume all bad-to-terrible because it is NOT branded Apple. Competition is good for all of us.
Can't argue with that!
 
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If you are a professional, HDR in a monitor is only really useful for TV show and movie production. And if you do work in movie/TV production, you'd probably want something better that an mini-LED monitor that only has a few hundred dimming zones.
I'd rather see a cheaper device than a clone of Apple's XDR display.
Exactly. Give the rest of us that simply want 6K resolution and real estate a cheaper option that doesn't push the display boundaries that jack up the price.
 
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