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For all those talking about matte being a negative on this panel there seems to be 4 types of matte:
  • old style plastic matte, fuzzy text and sparkly white backgrounds
  • new style plastic matte, text barely different to glossy, no sparkles
  • Apple nano etched, fuzzy text
I have a 24 inch 4K monitor with new style plastic matte and text is very sharp and acceptable. The old 2018 Dell 5K also had this matte. I'm sure Samsung would be similar.
You listed three.

Mine is #2 with excellent text, but I'm convinced it causes some decrease in the brightness when viewed significantly off-axis. So maybe #2 can be split further into two subclasses, one that has reduced viewing angles and one that doesn't.

As for Apple's etching, the other major drawback is the super high cost.
 
the LG 40WP95C-W 40 being the most popular.
This is what I have an enjoy at 3840 x 1620 HiDPI. That said, I will definitely be on the lookout for this thing:
Most comments seem to be about the 27" 5K display (it's always nice to have a Retina competitor to Apple's option), but I'm more interested in the potential of the 8k2k 57" display. This display itself is a beast (I think it's the equivalent of two 32" 4k screens in one monitor), especially at 240 Hz over DP2.1. I'm hoping this opens the door of possibility to a 34" 21:9 6720x2880 display (which would be a retina 34" ultrawide).
 
For all those talking about matte being a negative on this panel there seems to be 4 types of matte:
  • old style plastic matte, fuzzy text and sparkly white backgrounds
  • new style plastic matte, text barely different to glossy, no sparkles
  • Apple nano etched, fuzzy text
I have a 24 inch 4K monitor with new style plastic matte and text is very sharp and acceptable. The old 2018 Dell 5K also had this matte. I'm sure Samsung would be similar.
What "old" Dell 5K do you refer to? The one from 2015, the Dell UP2715K? Sorry, to correct you, but this screen has a glossy panel, and I have never read anywhere that this screen has the kind of matte coating you listed. Please provide an official source where this is described. Thank you.
 
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This ViewFinity S9, 27-inch 5K looks drop, I have an white M8, bought on discount 499,00€ and was a steal, for that price I have a monitor, stand, speakers, camera and a smart-TV, s pretty awesome deal, so far so good, not a single problem, image quality is great.

If the S9 will come at 1000,00€ will be another hit deal, I will buy two for sure, so Apple should continue is ridicules prices policies in Europe and Samsung should continue to offer good quality products at a friendly price, on 2023 nothing justifies the Apple Studio Display and Pro Display XDR prices, and the price of the stand on the Pro Display is a total rip-off, I should be ashamed charging that price.
 
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The perfect monitor is a Neo G9 that is twice the height, retina level DPI (not 1440p like the existing G9), and micro LED for true HDR and true black. Give me a wraparound work space, let me fit 20-30 windows into a single visual plane. No, I don't want to wear a VR headset before someone suggests that and I don't think people will want to use them over monitors in the long term.
 
...except the height adjustable option is a whopping US$400 extra, and the VESA option is BTO only, can't be added later and comes without any stand, yet is no cheaper than the model including the basic stand. Even the LG Ultrafine does better than that. We don't know if this new Samsung will have those features but most "prosumer" level displays do. Sorry, the issue isn't dead. The limited stand has always been (and still is) a flaw of Apple displays and the iMac.

(To be fair, the 4k+ Mateviews I'm using can't be VESA mounted - but they get some slack for being dirt cheap for what they are, and they do have height adjustment).
Make up your mind.
You: The ASD doesn't come with a stand and there's no VESA option
Apple: The ASD has this stand or you can get a VESA mount at ordering time
You: 😭 It's not the stand I want
 
have you guys seen the new Dell XDR 'competitor'? Apart from that silly design on the top it looks like we might be finally getting some competition in the hiDPI which is good for us all.
Not an XDR competitor. Specs don't measure up at all.
 
Looks interesting. Hopefully a “gloss” version will come. I dislike mate. This thing will be bellow 1k for sure.

I miss the days back in 2008 when Apple offered cutting edge tech at reasonable prices (internationally). I bought the revolutionary iPhone 3G for 599 euros. Now the cheapest new iPhone version is over a 1k. Displays over 1.7k MBAs over 1.5K …
 
You: The ASD doesn't come with a stand and there's no VESA option
I never said that the ASD didn't have a VESA option - I said that it was a BTO-only option & if you choose it you don't get any price reduction to make up for having to buy your own stand. Re-arrange your work desk - buy a new monitor. Magical.

You: 😭 It's not the stand I want
...because it is functionally worse than many significantly cheaper, displays, which usually manage to include either height adjustment or after-market VESA compatibility - and sometimes both.

Even my former iMac spent most of its life sitting on an old textbook.
 
Not an XDR competitor. Specs don't measure up at all.
It's a competitor in the sense that if you want a 32" display with the 220ppi resolution which is optimum for MacOS your only choice is currently the XDR. Let's see how the price measures up. Plenty of applications don't need local dimming or super-brightness.
 
Personally, I'm in favor of monitor options that don't have an A chip inside. To me, I don't like the thought of Apple obsoleting a monitor, or as was the case with two Homepods, Apple bricking them on updates.

Computers, tablets and phones - yes
Speakers, monitors and maybe cars? no for now...
 
Doubtful Apple views this as serious competition to the XDR. There are rumors of an Apple monitor that would sit in the middle between Studio Display and XDR ( 27" 5K mini-LED) . This Dell monitor likely would be more problematical for that.

That's a good point as the more I think about it, the more that seems like the case. I can't see a professional who was considering the Pro XDR as a reference monitor considering this Dell as an option.

While it does have the 6K panel and same monitor size, it doesn't match the XDR's HDR editing capabilities nor does it get as bright. I guess this could be an option for someone like a coder who wants a high DPI 32" screen and wants all of the productivity features that it comes with.
 
What "old" Dell 5K do you refer to? The one from 2015, the Dell UP2715K? Sorry, to correct you, but this screen has a glossy panel, and I have never read anywhere that this screen has the kind of matte coating you listed. Please provide an official source where this is described. Thank you.

I am talking about the roughness and haze of a polariser on a matte monitor. The older manufactured monitors had a rougher surface which led to the reputation for blurry text. Anything from the past 5 years seems to be a lot better in this respect. TLDR: modern matte is not the same as matte from 10 years ago.

 
Well, the best argument for my future purchasing decisions is my experience
You can borrow my experience, if you'd like. I have a a Samsung UE510 UHD monitor that I bought five years ago this month. I paid $300 for it at Costco. I use it with my Windows-based work laptop, which means eight hours a day, five days a week (holidays and vacations excluded). It's been flawless. So was the Samsung refrigerator at our previous house, but they're probably made at different factories than the monitors. ;)

My home computer is a 2019 27" iMac, which I use for my multimedia hobbies. I love it, but I miss having the portability of my old MacBook Pro. I'm considering replacing it with a MacBook Pro or Air and an external monitor. The 5K Samsung, if it's priced significantly less than the Apple Studio Display, would intrigue me.
 
You can borrow my experience, if you'd like. I have a a Samsung UE510 UHD monitor that I bought five years ago this month. I paid $300 for it at Costco. I use it with my Windows-based work laptop, which means eight hours a day, five days a week (holidays and vacations excluded). It's been flawless. So was the Samsung refrigerator at our previous house, but they're probably made at different factories than the monitors. ;)

My home computer is a 2019 27" iMac, which I use for my multimedia hobbies. I love it, but I miss having the portability of my old MacBook Pro. I'm considering replacing it with a MacBook Pro or Air and an external monitor. The 5K Samsung, if it's priced significantly less than the Apple Studio Display, would intrigue me.
I can confirm my Samsung TV is over 10 years old and my Samsung fridge is >6yo and still going. Maybe I should buy a Bosch monitor though as my dishwasher is over 20 now. 🤣
 
At last... someone finally making a 27"/5K display.

As long as it's reasonably priced (and needs to be sub £/$1000) then I'll buy one. No mention of speakers, and would definitely be helpful to have those, and if the webcam is good then also plus points.

But essentially it just needs to be affordable.
yes I think it needs to be sub 1k. I find it hard to justify when you can get 65inch 4k TV's for under 2k but these 5k 27 inch monitors are similar money.
 
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Curious, what system are you running? Need to budget for the 49" along with a new Mac.
My current 2013 Mac Pro D700 might not work with the Geo 9.

I use it with my desktop (Ryzen 3950 3080ti) 90% of the time, and sometimes with my M1 Max MBP.
 
It's a competitor in the sense that if you want a 32" display with the 220ppi resolution which is optimum for MacOS your only choice is currently the XDR. Let's see how the price measures up. Plenty of applications don't need local dimming or super-brightness.
If you need colour accurate HDR1000 professionally and have less than $15000, the XDR is what you need. Other than that, it would be a want. All those YouTubers whose name rhymes with MaxTech, and others, don't need them. They want them. For what I do, the Dell would probably fit the bill, except it scores very highly on the ugly test.
 
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Samsung's ViewFinity S9 next to Apple's Studio Display (not to exact scale, but should be closed, based on roughly the same diagonal measurement). Courtesy DPReview
Pricing will make or break this. As someone who was spoiled by the 27" 5K iMac, but doesn't want (let alone, need) to pay the Apple Tax for the Studio Display, this would be an ideal stand-alone display for me to use with my M2 MBA (currently using a 27" 4K Dell S2721QS).
 
Hrmmm for that just go with the Studio....

Now $800 less and that is another matter.
If you add the height adjustable cost to Studio display, it will be $600 (assuming it is going to be $200 less than base Studio Display)
 


Ahead of CES 2023 this week, Samsung has announced several upcoming additions to its monitor lineup, and perhaps the most interesting model for Apple users is the ViewFinity S9, Samsung's first 27-inch 5K display that will compete against Apple's Studio Display.

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27-inch 5K displays remain fairly rare, but Apple has long embraced the higher pixel density for its ability to display true Retina-quality content at reasonable size. Just like the Studio Display and Apple's former 27-inch iMac, Samsung's ViewFinity S9 will feature a 5120 x 2880 display, and its wide color gamut will cover 99% of the DCI-P3 spectrum while HDR600 support improves shadows and highlights.

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The ViewFinity S9 features a matte finish to minimize glare, is equipped with USB-C/Thunderbolt 4 connectivity, and includes a 4K SlimFit camera.

Pricing has yet to be announced, but it will be launching "early" this year.

Samsung's popular Smart Monitor M8 is also receiving an update, with a new 27-inch size joining the previous 32-inch option. Both sizes carry 4K resolution and are available in four color options with height and tilt adjustments.

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The M8 now pivots up to 90 degrees for a portrait orientation, and it supports VESA standards for those who prefer different mounting solutions. The included 2K SlimFit camera has been upgraded, and there's new mouse support for many of the included apps on the display such as Samsung's SmartThings Hub for managing connected home devices and Smart Hub for dedicated apps like Prime Video, Netflix, YouTube, and more.

Pricing and a release date have yet to be announced.

In addition to the ViewFinity S9 and Smart Monitor M8, Samsung is also announcing several new Odyssey gaming monitors including the Odyssey Neo G9, a 57-inch 32:9 super ultra-wide curved display at 7680 x 2160 resolution with DisplayPort 2.1 and a 240 Hz response rate.

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Finally, there is the Odyssey OLED G9, a 49-inch curved OLED gaming monitor with 0.1 ms response time and 240 Hz response rate. Both displays will launch "later" this year with pricing yet to be disclosed.

Check out Samsung's press release for full details on all of these monitors.

Article Link: CES 2023: Samsung's Latest Monitors Include an Apple Studio Display Rival, Updated M8 Smart Monitor
So after a long wait for a replacement to my 2012 27inch iMac, I bit the bullet and ordered a M2 Pro with 12‑core CPU, 19-core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine. No Mac Monitor... Hopefully by the time it arrives I will have options of the Samsung Viewfinity S9 5K 27inch or the Dell UltraSharp 6K 32 inch monitor, both with 4k smart video and connection hubs. I am aiming for another 10 years of product support. It is hard to imagine what will be on the market at that time but I would guess AR,VR and MR will feature prominently. Kudos to Samsung and Dell for taking on Apple's monitors.
 
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