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Nice, looks interesting, but why can no other vendors create a uniform bezel with no obnoxious protrusions of odd-sized edging on one side? At a glance, it looked like a good competitor, and then you see the protruding camera or odd-sized bezel, which just doesn't "fit" any aesthetic, especially if you opt to rotate to portrait layout.

Often, because of heat. They don't want to put electronics in the spot where the monitor is radiating the heat from the backlighting.
 
Of course they can. They're just gouging. The 27" 5K iMac started at $1799. The Studio Display starts at $1599. Both have 5K retina panels. Both have a webcam and speakers. In addition, the iMac included...a Mac, a keyboard, and a mouse!

We are left with three options:

1. Mac components are dirt cheap, which means Macs are grossly overpriced.
2. Display components are dirt cheap, which means the Studio Display is grossly overpriced.
3. Both Mac and display components are dirt cheap and we're being ripped off on everything.

Take your pick!

Let's also not forget that 5k iMac is 8 year old product and LG Ultrafine 5K monitor is 6 years old. We're talking about some old tech here, though admittedly somehow still relevant.
 
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Looks like Samsung have beaten Apple. Because this monitor supports HMDI 2.1, meaning you can use this with gaming consoles and PC's without any headaches.

As a downside, the Samsung display might not work as seamingless as the Apple Studio Display does with Apple devices. But it's a fine trade off for supporting much more devices out of the box.
 
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Hopefully Dell will now also bring out a new 5K monitor (but also 6K or 7K with simply more space on the screen) and with at least 120Hz. And please in glossy!

I was always very satisfied with Dell monitors. Since 2015 I still have my Dell UP 2715K which displays 5120x2880 and next to it I have the Apple Studio Display and both are very similar in quality :)

Maybe it is worthwhile to write an email or via Twitter to Dell and ask for a new 5K/6K monitor ;)
 
Price is the key.
Hopefully is not astronomical and ridiculous like Apple’s pricing for this range.
 
I suspect the ViewFinity will be a more appropriately priced 'clone' of the Studio Display--and I have no problem with that as Apple's pricing is ridiculous. And as someone who would've pulled the trigger on a Studio Display if is wasn't so terribly priced (especially the option pricing for the stand and nano texture :rolleyes:), I'll definitely
LG makes one.
 
And the best: The stand is INCLUDED.
The stand is included with the Apple Studio Display.
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I'm excited to see the production version and final specs on this monitor.

For me, the two things that stand out are HDR support and the height/rotate stand. Those are probably the only two things I don't love about the ASD. They are fairly minor to me so not close to deal breakers but do seem kind of half-a** by Apple. I didn't care enough about the stand to pop for the extra $400 on mine.

I'm guessing based on what we know now that I would still have opted for the ASD. I strongly prefer gloss coating and very much enjoy how the ASDs work seamlessly (updates, controls, etc.) with my Studio. The look and are extremely well built - and I care about that.

My only "major" complaint about the ASD is price but if the Samsung is only $200 or so cheaper than a refurb ASD that wouldn't be enough to sway me toward it. It's going to have to come in at $999 or so before I would have seriously considered it. Maybe that happens. And if so, I bet it sells pretty well.

Would be nice to have a middle option b/w "settling" for 4K at $500 or so and jumping up to ASD prices. 4K just doesn't work for me and thus I had no choice but to go ASD. Probably still would have, but at least I would have made a choice.
 
Price is the key.
Hopefully is not astronomical and ridiculous like Apple’s pricing for this range.
I get that and tend to agree.

But there could be other factors that are important to some folks - PC compatibility (HDMI, physical controls, etc.), HDR and refresh rate all come to mind.

I hope there are more differences than just price that allow people to compare pros/cons and get a device that best suits their needs. A nearly direct ASD replacement (which this won't be IMO) like the LG isn't all that compelling unless the price is way lower. Example: At $1299 the LG isn't sufficiently cheaper to make me settle for its obvious lesser aspects (materials, brightness, sound, etc.). But finances and how we spend money are purely personal choices.
 
My guess is that the NDA for the R&D spent on 5K display has expired. So Samsung can now offer it to he public.
 
Regarding pricing, I’m not so concerned about MSRP, but actual street pricing several months after launch. Apple doesn’t usually have significant sales on their products even though retailers from time to time do have some discounts. In contrast, Samsung always has big discounts later in the year. The M8 being slashed to $399 comes to mind.

Looks like Samsung have beaten Apple. Because this monitor supports HMDI 2.1, meaning you can use this with gaming consoles and PC's without any headaches.

As a downside, the Samsung display might not work as seamingless as the Apple Studio Display does with Apple devices. But it's a fine trade off for supporting much more devices out of the box.
HDMI 2.1 in itself means nothing, because all the added features over HDMI 2.0 are optional. In fact, you no longer are supposed to label a device HDMI 2.0. If it meets HDMI 2.0 standards, it should be labelled HDMI 2.1.

My Apple TV 4K is officially HDMI 2.1.


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...except the height adjustable option is a whopping US$400 extra, and the VESA option is BTO only, can't be added later and comes without any stand, yet is no cheaper than the model including the basic stand. Even the LG Ultrafine does better than that. We don't know if this new Samsung will have those features but most "prosumer" level displays do. Sorry, the issue isn't dead. The limited stand has always been (and still is) a flaw of Apple displays and the iMac.

(To be fair, the 4k+ Mateviews I'm using can't be VESA mounted - but they get some slack for being dirt cheap for what they are, and they do have height adjustment).

Example: At $1299 the LG isn't sufficiently cheaper to make me settle for its obvious lesser aspects (materials, brightness, sound, etc.).

The LG is also, AFAIK, using old tech that treats it as two DisplayPort 1.2 displays welded together - which could be an issue in the future. OTOH, the Studio Display with a height-adjustable stand costs $2000 whereas that's included with the LG.

I've decided to go for a much cheaper 3rd-party solution but if I'd decided to spring for 5k I'd be a bit stuck on the swings and roundabouts over LG vs Studio Display. The Samsung sounds like a welcome addition - although all of the 'smart TV' stuff seems like "something else to go wrong".

Personally, I think that any speakers built into a display are going to be inferior to a half-decent set of external speakers - much the same for microphones or webcams - and are totally irrelevant if you're looking for a second display. All of these displays seem to be more suited as laptop docking stations than as part of a desktop system.
 
...except the height adjustable option is a whopping US$400 extra, and the VESA option is BTO only, can't be added later and comes without any stand, yet is no cheaper than the model including the basic stand. Even the LG Ultrafine does better than that. We don't know if this new Samsung will have those features but most "prosumer" level displays do. Sorry, the issue isn't dead. The limited stand has always been (and still is) a flaw of Apple displays and the iMac.

If you take it to the Apple store, they can convert it to VESA after purchase.
 
I would seriously consider selling my Studio display if the Samsung 5k monitor is a decent price as it'll make it so much easier to connect multiple devices.
 
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have you guys seen the new Dell XDR 'competitor'? Apart from that silly design on the top it looks like we might be finally getting some competition in the hiDPI which is good for us all.
 
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I have the Mini LED Neo G9 and it's a amazing experience. The OLED version seems like a pretty good upgrade. Can't wait for reviews on it.
Curious, what system are you running? Need to budget for the 49" along with a new Mac.
My current 2013 Mac Pro D700 might not work with the Geo 9.
 
5k on a 27" display is too small for my old eyes.
How about a 32" 5k display, too...?
 
5k on a 27" display is too small for my old eyes.
How about a 32" 5k display, too...?
Run the 27” 5K at 2048x1152. Text quality is amazing. This is an option that macOS offers standard.

My preference is 2304x1296 but that isn’t offered standard. I’d have to resort to third party software to get that.

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Or you can run the 31.5” at 2560x1440. That is also a standard macOS resolution option for the XDR, so presumably it would be offered for the Dell as well.

At 218 ppi, there is no need for run at 2X scaling in macOS.
 
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