because that is what 99,999% can relate to .. also i really really really doubt you have 100.000 tasks in your lifespan
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CES 2024: Rabbit r1 AI Assistant Wants to Do Tasks for You
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99% of people call regularly call a ride-shares and order pizza? Occasionally, maybe.
It doesn't matter anyway as this thing sounds lame as hell.
But why is this a physical device? Can't it just be a smartphone app? Your phone already has a screen, a mic, a SIM card, the internet, and plenty of processing power to do this, no need for another device.
If it can basically operate every app on your smartphone then there wouldn't be a need for a smartphone.
However, you are completely right that Apple and Google are 100% going to implement similar features to their digital assistants this year.
The market-leading hardware that only the big tech giants can deliver (at competitive prices) combined with this kind of AI will have products like r1 become obsolete almost before they get a chance to launch.
If this r1 becomes even a small success then it's only because it's launching in the vacuum before companies like Apple, Google and Samsung launch their takes on AI and start competing with each other.
However, the $200 price tag with no subscription could make this product a hit considering that Apple will most likely have AI Siri only be avail be on iPhones 16 and beyond, and might also require additional "iCloud AI" subscription fees.
Knowing how even the biggest tech companies usually treat languages outside the World's biggest countries, I would not assume it can do anything meaningful if you're not speaking English to it and geographically located in the U.S.
Yes, I know that goes against the fact that this is AI operated. It should be able to work around something as arbitrary as that.
But from my experience throughout the years with consumer tech, I'd be very surprised if there aren't substantial limitations for non-U.S. users.
At best, full support will only be available for the biggest languages/countries, like the U.S., Germany, China, etc. And then support for smaller languages will roll out in a couple of years.
This is just $199, no way they can fit that into their budget.
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AI startup Rabbit today announced the launch of the Rabbit r1, a mobile device that's designed to simplify the experience of using a smartphone. The r1 runs rabbit OS, an operating system powered by a Large Action Model (LAM).
The Large Action Model is able to learn how humans use computers, or more specifically, how r1 users take advantage of apps. Rabbit says that the r1 can understand complex user intentions, operate user interfaces, and perform actions on behalf of the user. The OS was trained on data from people interacting with apps, allowing the r1 to do tasks like ordering pizza, booking ride services, playing music, communicating with people, and more, through voice commands.
The Rabbit r1 can be interacted with using a push-to-talk button on the side, and it understands natural language requests. There are no apps on the r1, and tasks are performed over the internet.
Designed in partnership with Teenage Engineering, the r1 has a 2.88-inch touch screen, a camera that rotates for capturing photos and videos and taking video calls, a scroll wheel for navigation purposes, and a USB-C port for charging. There is a 1,000mAh battery, and battery life depends on usage. While there is no subscription associated with the Rabbit r1, it does need a SIM card for cellular data.
Users can teach the r1 to perform tasks, including multi-step tasks such as researching a location, booking a hotel, securing restaurant recommendations, and finding activities. Once the r1 has learned a task, it can repeat the action independently. It supposedly can even interact with apps like Photoshop, performing multi-step actions within the software.
The Rabbit r1 needs to be provided with a user's logins for various services in order to complete tasks involving those services.
The Rabbit r1 can be pre-ordered from the Rabbit website for $200. It is expected to ship to customers in March or April of 2024
Article Link: CES 2024: Rabbit r1 AI Assistant Wants to Do Tasks for You
So its chatgpt on a separate (and ugly) device that is going to become ewaste in less than 2 years after they tried to bait and switch people into a subscription in less than 1 year.
jesus…
jesus…
Very clever, of course. But sorry, I prefer to wear my brain in my head rather than holding it in my hand. Also, the fact that the name of the German band Kraftwerk was mispronounced (as if it were spelled craftwork) is telling for dehumanizing and braun outsourcing AI tech endeavors such as the Rabbit. I do not think the hardware stands a chance of making it to a commercial product for the masses (e.g. screen too small). But I am afraid the functionality — Large Action Model — will be licensed (or copied) into iOS or Android eventually.
AI startup Rabbit today announced the launch of the Rabbit r1, a mobile device that's designed to simplify the experience of using a smartphone. The r1 runs rabbit OS, an operating system powered by a Large Action Model (LAM).
The Large Action Model is able to learn how humans use computers, or more specifically, how r1 users take advantage of apps. Rabbit says that the r1 can understand complex user intentions, operate user interfaces, and perform actions on behalf of the user. The OS was trained on data from people interacting with apps, allowing the r1 to do tasks like ordering pizza, booking ride services, playing music, communicating with people, and more, through voice commands.
The Rabbit r1 can be interacted with using a push-to-talk button on the side, and it understands natural language requests. There are no apps on the r1, and tasks are performed over the internet.
Designed in partnership with Teenage Engineering, the r1 has a 2.88-inch touch screen, a camera that rotates for capturing photos and videos and taking video calls, a scroll wheel for navigation purposes, and a USB-C port for charging. There is a 1,000mAh battery, and battery life depends on usage. While there is no subscription associated with the Rabbit r1, it does need a SIM card for cellular data.
Users can teach the r1 to perform tasks, including multi-step tasks such as researching a location, booking a hotel, securing restaurant recommendations, and finding activities. Once the r1 has learned a task, it can repeat the action independently. It supposedly can even interact with apps like Photoshop, performing multi-step actions within the software.
The Rabbit r1 needs to be provided with a user's logins for various services in order to complete tasks involving those services.
The Rabbit r1 can be pre-ordered from the Rabbit website for $200. It is expected to ship to customers in March or April of 2024
Article Link: CES 2024: Rabbit r1 AI Assistant Wants to Do Tasks for You
r1, yes.
r2, r3, r… no.
This is super cool.
This is destined to be made obsolete by future smartphones in the very near future.
This is destined to be made obsolete by future smartphones in the very near future.
I don’t grasp the obsession of all these voice only devices. It’s quite literally the least efficient way of presenting a user with any kind of response. Not to mention that apparently you can never use the thing outside unless you want to look like a fool.
My more specific gripe here is that it will be a long, long time before I let any LMM or voice based interface near anything that can spend my money. We just are still not there yet. I never understood anyone even giving Alexa that power.
My more specific gripe here is that it will be a long, long time before I let any LMM or voice based interface near anything that can spend my money. We just are still not there yet. I never understood anyone even giving Alexa that power.
Exactly.
if I’m doing either of those things, I want to be the person totally in control of when the order is placed.
No way an AI knows what I want on my pizza, and that’s just another middleman who can make mistakes on my order.
I wish them luck but as the saying goes, you get what you pay for. To me, this looks like another immature Beeper fiasco that features interesting tech, but a fundamentally flawed underlying economic model.
The product infrastructure has what seems to be both recurring and usage-based costs. This means that over a product’s lifetime each user will present an increasing cost to Rabbit. A one-time purchase price is out of sync with this underlying cost structure.
Unless Rabbit negotiates a sweetheart practically no-cost deal with the service providers they are interfacing with (Spotify, Midjourney, etc.) or shift those costs to users, the cost of supporting a user will exceed the contribution (product price minus cost) of the r1 at some point in the user’s lifetime (assuming that the device doesn’t have a short lifespan and is replaced often). This is a path to insolvency.
The founder seems smart enough to have worked this out, but Beeper showed us that even technically smart people can overlook these details only to discover them after making big splash product launches.
The product infrastructure has what seems to be both recurring and usage-based costs. This means that over a product’s lifetime each user will present an increasing cost to Rabbit. A one-time purchase price is out of sync with this underlying cost structure.
Unless Rabbit negotiates a sweetheart practically no-cost deal with the service providers they are interfacing with (Spotify, Midjourney, etc.) or shift those costs to users, the cost of supporting a user will exceed the contribution (product price minus cost) of the r1 at some point in the user’s lifetime (assuming that the device doesn’t have a short lifespan and is replaced often). This is a path to insolvency.
The founder seems smart enough to have worked this out, but Beeper showed us that even technically smart people can overlook these details only to discover them after making big splash product launches.
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I’m getting this for the Teenage Engineering industrial design alone.
I told my wife I was buying her a rabbit for her birthday and she got excited, then I told her it was this and she got mad, I do t get it.
I'm hoping Apple brings half of this AI stuff to Siri in the year ahead, this chatbot Rabbit is going to have the same problems as all the other AI chatbots .. convincingly telling you something that may or may not be correct. A reason why Apple is not moving in this direction.
A cheap product that will suck up all your personal information and sell it to businesses around the world. It doesn’t need a subscription because your data is worth everything.
This thing is dead before it launches.
Everyone talked about financial challenges.
How about the fact that you have to wait after every request? That’s annoying AF. They slam clicking buttons in an app but I can do that much faster.
Likewise, don’t want to be talking to something all the time. How are me and the husband going to sit together and dick around on our phones while watching TV? This doesn’t replace that.
Similarly, how many times a week are you people ordering food?
I just don’t see this taking off - also consider the entire premise can be folded into a phone by the tech giants at any time.
Pass!!!
Everyone talked about financial challenges.
How about the fact that you have to wait after every request? That’s annoying AF. They slam clicking buttons in an app but I can do that much faster.
Likewise, don’t want to be talking to something all the time. How are me and the husband going to sit together and dick around on our phones while watching TV? This doesn’t replace that.
Similarly, how many times a week are you people ordering food?
I just don’t see this taking off - also consider the entire premise can be folded into a phone by the tech giants at any time.
Pass!!!
This will be obsolete as soon as Apple reboots Siri with current AI tech.
And you best believe they'll start charging a subscription as soon as all the early adopters finish buying
And you best believe they'll start charging a subscription as soon as all the early adopters finish buying
I just want Siri to understand the meaning of AND. When she can get that she’ll be 100% better.
Teenage Engineering make some great looking products. This one seems a little Apple inspired. Watched part of the keynote and the impression I got was that they’ve made a smart phone without a sim. Not sure the world is crying out for this.
If Apple plans to make Siri subscription, they had best have a trial period to reassure all those people who have had such trouble with Siri for so long that they have given it up. Siri AI is going to need a publicity agent.
My god I couldn’t make it thru 8 seconds of that keynote. Cringe.
But if someone can’t learn how to use an iPhone properly are they really gonna want yet another tech device?
But if someone can’t learn how to use an iPhone properly are they really gonna want yet another tech device?