Cheaper iPhone 4 'N90A' Photos Leak from Foxconn Factory

[Savor]

No matter how much we can agree with those statements, the next iPhone will still likely be the best-selling phone in the world until the next new release next year. 3GS looked exactly like the 3G with a 3.5 inch screen and 480x320 resolution, and it still outsold every other Android with better specs in the U.S.

Think Star Wars on Blu-ray. Fanboys complained about the minor changes and it still broke sales record in a week. MacRumors doesn't speak for the entire population. Posters can randomly defect and iOS still has the highest retention rate. Most people are stuck into Apple ecosystem. We buy their products and accessories and still continue to put money on the content.

I am not here supporting Apple for this. But I just have to point out REALITY with real-life examples to some posters who think complaining is going to stop millions of others on buying the next iPhone no matter what it looks like or what they call it. iPhone is practically critic-proof. iPhone 4 went through Antennagate and became the best-selling smartphone ever.

Referencing back to Star Wars, that saga still had a couple turds like the Episode I & II, had the stupid "NOOO! change" in ROTJ, and fanboys still ran out to buy the complete saga. Star Wars is still Star Wars which means alot to people like "if it is not an iPhone, it is not an iPhone." If people see the Apple logo, the cool commercial, and the phone can playback the iTunes content, they will buy it.

 

[yrsued]

So what you are trying to say is they will announce something on Oct 4th and then announce something again within the next 3 months.

Well, Nikon has had THREE major announcements in the last 6 weeks and there is one or two more!!

so.... Who knows?? As a Nikon Exec told me last month, "The year is young, we will announce products when they are READY"

 

[MarkLal]

I found the exact quote, and there is no mention of the iPhone specifically, but considering that the iPhone special event is just in the september quarter, it may well be iPhone related...

The exact quote is:
We also have a future product transition that we're not going to talk about today and these things will impact our September quarter. We remain very confident in our business, our new product pipeline and our momentum.

Thanks. Thats what im trying to say. This does not mean there will be or wont be a new redesigned iphone, but has to be something major.

 

[StyxMaker]

I've been saying this from the start. It is Apple's business model to reserve the current generation iPhone (in this case, iPhone 4) as the low end offering for the refresh…

Four data points is really not enough to count.

 

[Sensamic]

Dont you guys get it???

Apple has made the iPhone evolve really slow since the beginning:

- iPhone EDGE
- iPhone 3G
- iPhone 3GS
- iPhone 4


Does it sound like they do a redesing every year? The differences between each iPhone are little.

SO NO IPHONE 5! Just iPhone 4S. Thats they way Apple works!!!

 

[bluedoggiant]

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They could very well be announcing a 5, but not manufacturing it or releasing it until later, that's the only hope for a 5, that is redesigned I mean. For now, expect a 4 and high end 4S. I just hope at least the 4S gets 64GB

 

[cjmillsnun]

Just because they're calling the "4S" doesn't mean it's going to be a minor update. I'm expecting an 8mp camera, an A5 processor, and 1GB of memory. I'm wishing for a 64GB model, too. (I think that's likely).

A case redesign doesn't necessarily signify a radically new model. The iPhone 3G was a minor update to the original iPhone. All it added was GPS, a revised case, camera, and 3G data capabilities. It used the exact processor that the original iPhone used.

The 3GS significantly upgraded the processor, improved the camera, added video recording, bumped the storage, and improved its connectivity to the 3G network. It was actually a much larger upgrade than the iPhone to iPhone 3G was. It just kept the same case.

Don't expect the 4S to be a "minor" spec bump just because we're not getting a case redesign.

The original iPhone had the same camera as the iPhone 3G

 

[sinsin07]

The more i think about it--all these rumors, opinions, anger, frustration, etc.--has nothing to do with Apple!

It has to do with 2yr contracts from carriers!

The frustration comes from a dedicated Apple customer having to pass up the latest phone due to the limitations of their current contact. Then, when they become eligible for an upgrade, they want a bang! They don't a huge upgrade to occur while they're stuck.

AT&T started by being pretty liberal about moving up eligibiliy times by 6 months, so people can get the newest model without penalty. But, unless everyone buys their phone the same day, it's impossible to make everyone happy. Some users will get stuck inside a contract when a new iPhone comes out.

I think these rumors show more about the psychology of 2yr. contracts.

The two year contract does not stop someone from buying the phone, so part of it is people unwilling or unable to buy a new phone outright (ignoring the discounted option you would get at end of contract).

 

[MarkLal]

Well, Nikon has had THREE major announcements in the last 6 weeks and there is one or two more!!

so.... Who knows?? As a Nikon Exec told me last month, "The year is young, we will announce products when they are READY"

Could be..but it just does not sound Apple-like. But then again they have done many things this year that were un Apple-like. So at this point its anybody's guess.
Cheers.

 

[charlituna]

The logic of this is failed, the new iTunes Beta 9 CDMA icon would have to have a SIM slot on it if it's to be a true world phone, ala iPhone 4S.

Not if the SIM is software based. Apple did get a patent for such a thing.

 

[yrsued]

Could be..but it just does not sound Apple-like. But then again they have done many things this year that were un Apple-like. So at this point its anybody's guess.
Cheers.

AMEN Brother!! Now I need a 27" Imac with 16GB of RAM to process & edit the 20K Images I shot two weeks ago!! My MacBook Pro almost Choked to death!!

 

[charlituna]

Because of expectations, every keynote has been a disappointment for most people.

I have to disagree with the use of the term MOST. Perhaps most people on sites like this. But rather like the TV Ratings System only counts 25k folks and not really tens of millions, sites like this are a tiny speck of the real world and for all we know, no one out in the uncounted masses has been or will be disappointed just like MTV can't prove that any of the non ratings viewers actually give a fig about Jersey Shore

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Like someone else pointed out, we're not arguing just for naming conventions, we're arguing because 4S = same form factor, 5 = different form factor with larger screen and hopefully better designed antenna system.

you assume and you could end up looking like a total ass.

Apple will name the phone what they want. And if they want to name what you think is a 4s as the iPhone 5 because it is the 5th iPhone, they will. And later we will find out that all that stuff about the supposed iPhone 5 was based off a rejected test model that they knew a week later was never going to see the light of day because it was a crappy design.

 

[haydn!]

When Apple said there would be a product transition that would affect their September quarter. They were talking about iPhone but it had nothing to do with it being a new design or not.

It was about the iPhone being released later than in past years meaning the iPhone units sold in the September quarter (usually the launch quarter) would be far less than may have been predicted earlier in the year or compared to previous years.

Lower than expected iPhone sales, compared to what there would have been had the iPhone been launched in the usual June quarter would result in a more conservative quarter than what analysts may have hoped for.

 

[nedman]

There must be a difference somewhere in that front panel. Why would they need to differentiate the N90 screen and the N94 screens? Surely if it were only internal spec changes the screen could be used on either the N90 or the N94. That picture specifies that is for the N90. Of course they may be labeled for stock counting purposes.

At least my decision of SG2 or IP5 will be decided on Tuesday

 

[charlituna]

I just don't understand why Apple took so long to release the new iPhone if indeed the only upgrade is to the internals.

Well the only upgrade isn't just to the internals. Remember Apple looks at the full package of hardware and software.

Also, the change in calendar could be about something that isn't really about the iPhone at all. October is the start of their fiscal year and perhaps they felt that the iPod wasn't selling well enough to be the top of the year item, but the iPhone would. So they shifted it from summer to Fall. It has the advantage that they can preview at WWDC, which is for developers, and give them longer to update their apps. A bonus reason that is very logical. I'm sure Apple would love to start requiring folks to update to at least support ios4 and get rid of these apps that were written for ios2 and ios3 and never really updated.

 

[pantss]

Why don't people get it? The cases floating around are for ipod touch 5G.

Doesn't it make sense? The new ipod touch will look like a mini ipad, which explains the form factor of the new cases. Only the ipod touch can afford to resemble the ipad. Can you imagine how retarded you will look if your iphone looks like that of the mockups with the tapered back and you are using an ipad and an iphone at the same time?

 

[charlituna]

Hey Arn, how many leaked iPhone 4 production pictures were leaked before the official announcement last summer?

Moot question since Gizmodo had bought their stolen phone and stupidly confessed to it and posted their videos.

No production line photos were needed

 

[yrsued]

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And later we will find out that all that stuff about the supposed iPhone 5 was based off a rejected test model that they knew a week later was never going to see the light of day because it was a crappy design.[/QUOTE]


Like many prototypes, they never see the light of day!! I saw like 8 Prototypes of the Iridium handset, and... NONE of them was ever produced!!

 

[charlituna]

The brazil plant failed as a project.

Which makes this leak interesting because apparently there hasn't been any Apple production of anything at said factory so why would they have any information to leak out. Apple is so secretive they don't seem the type to give details to a factory that isn't signed and sealed to actually need the information

 

[StyxMaker]

People do this because the numbering and suffix usually indicates a redesign or not. An "S" simply added to a 4 would signify no redesign, and a 5 would likely signal a redesign. That's why there's so much fuss over it.

There have only been four models of the iPhone, that's to small of a data sample to use words like 'usually'.

 

[rockrigo]

Which makes this leak interesting because apparently there hasn't been any Apple production of anything at said factory so why would they have any information to leak out. Apple is so secretive they don't seem the type to give details to a factory that isn't signed and sealed to actually need the information

Foxconn already has operating plants in Brazil, the problems are with a new factory that's supposed to start producing soon

 

[charlituna]

Apple gives an updated iPhone design a name.

Steve Job's Apple did this.

But it ain't his Apple anymore, now it's Tim Cook's Apple and if he wants to use a flat Gen number system rather than all the antenna tech, "S" etc then guess what, he's the boss and he gets what he wants

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Foxconn already has operating plants in Brazil, the problems are with a new factory that's supposed to start producing soon

Foxconn might have had factories but were they producing for Apple (remember they have many companies they build for). According to talk, they were not. This was a deal to try to change that. And it fell through.

 

[Geckotek]

Agreed, I think everyone would be a little more accepting of a 4S if it had been released in the normal 12 month time frame. But 16 months after the fact is just unacceptable. Not likely even for Apple, though this news is bleak. UGGH, please don't disappoint us Apple!

Yes, but the problem here is that everyone associates 4 exra months with, "there must be new hardware". At the time, it was rumored that they needed the extra time for iOS 5. The delay could have very easily been delays in getting Nuance to work as they liked. Or perhaps there was an issue with a component. Who knows. But let's run with the assumption that the original plan was to launch an iPhone 4S in June, but something delayed that plan.

So if that was the original plan, but Apple suddenly finds themselves waiting 4 extra months....guess what? That's not enough time to ramp up design, manufacturers tooling, and production of a device that wasn't planned until next year (which is what they would have to do).

Now, if the iPhone 5 was in fact the original plan, then we have hope. But this assumption that an extra 4 months MUST mean a new model is baseless.

Hmmm... I like the speculation earlier that the "S" stands for Sprint, and that the 4S is their version of the iPhone 4, as an entry-level device.

This could only make sense if the 3GS were a Sprint device. Tell people the 4S is for Sprint, then they will start wanting to put the 3GS on Sprint, which we in here know is impossible. So making the S stand for Sprint makes no sense.

Here are the pics from weeks ago.
I quote " Photo of the back of the package showing the iPhone 4S case, depicting new volume buttons, and on the right side"

The volume button thing was debunked when someone found another Otterbox package for another model with the volume keys on the wrong side as well.

 

[DT100]

It's definitely going to be a 4S - if it was going to be a 5, it would be announced on Oct 5th.

There, mystery solved!

 

[pantss]

It's definitely going to be a 4S - if it was going to be a 5, it would be announced on Oct 5th.

There, mystery solved!

omg seriously?

don't you guys find it retarded? apple is not the kind of company that would go, we are launching iphone 5 on the FIFTH, of MAY. that's seriously cliche and lame.