Cheaper iPhone 4 'N90A' Photos Leak from Foxconn Factory

[iFrodo]

Exactly. And moreover Tim Cook himself mentioned during the last financial results that Apple will be releasing a new revolutionary product in the last quarter and will have a major positive impact during that period. Only an iPhone 4 with upgraded specs would not result in a game changing financial quarter. Then again, its all IMO..

Excuse me, I googled a little on that, and read (quickly) the full transcript of Q3 financial results, including Q&A session, and I couldn't find the mention from Tim Cook you are talking about.

Can you please provide exact quote of what he said and the source?

 

[pjhamill]

I haven't figured that one yet either. I pulled a rumor/article from 9to5 mac that says apple inventory showed n90a as the 4s, but of course I got the negs.

i think n94 is the redesigned 5

N94 has been confirmed as the 4S.

 

[Nachoconqueso]

Excuse me, I googled a little on that, and read (quickly) the full transcript of Q3 financial results, including Q&A session, and I couldn't find the mention from Tim Cook you are talking about.

Can you please provide exact quote of what he said and the source?

He's wrong I think. "Future product transition" was stated by the CFO Oppenheimer.

 

[DeathChill]

He only said that there would be a future product transition (but obviously that slipped, as Gruber said):

Q: Why do you think the September quarter will have more conservative results? A: September is more weighted towards education. September is still expected to be a significant increase.

-FUTURE PRODUCT TRANSITION IN SEPTEMBER. Will effect the quarter.

 

[voidptr]

But you are speaking as if everyone upgrading is coming from a 4. What about the 3GS owners. Is this the only upgrade they get? Or the reluctant VZW customers that passed on the 4 because they were waiting for the 5. Like someone else said, obviously Google is doing something right with Android. I might not care for the Android OS but apparently other people do.

That's the exact opposite of what I'm saying.

The vast majority of people with a iPhone 4 are not going to upgrade next week, regardless of what Apple announces. An iPhone with a A5 and other spec bumps in an iPhone 4 form factor is a vast improvement over a 3G or 3GS, or whatever 2 year old phone Vz customers were holding onto waiting for the refresh.

I have a 3GS, and if the 4S is what they actually announce, I'll order it as soon as they start taking orders. I know at least a couple 3G owners in the same position. I want a new iPhone with an A5 and a better camera that'll be supported for the next two years of iOS releases. The name on the box or another quarter inch of screen size doesn't really matter.

 

[wurt]

Excuse me, I googled a little on that, and read (quickly) the full transcript of Q3 financial results, including Q&A session, and I couldn't find the mention from Tim Cook you are talking about.

Can you please provide exact quote of what he said and the source?

The actual quote was somethign a long the lines of "We expect a product transition that will increase iphone sales in september"

 

[chabig]

What Apple needs to do is sell these iPhone4s unlocked, without subsidy for $200 that works on 1700/1900/2100 MHz 3G frequencies.

It would be a solid kick in the pants to the low end Android phones and the only ones that could compete would be the higher end ones. Essentially, it will level the playing field for smart phones, increase Apple's profit and market share.

This has to be one of the least thought out comments. Maybe Apple should just give away $600 phones for FREE. Think of the market share!!

 

[satyrica]

Umm

After 457 posts, were any worth reading??

 

[DeathChill]

After 457 posts, were any worth reading??

Only this post I am posting right now.

 

[Winter Charm]

Fierce??? No single Android phone model sells anywhere near as well as the iPhone 4. The bigger screen Android models currently don't even sell as well as the 2+ year old 3GS!

All the Android gains are at the low end of the market. A cost reduced iPhone 4(A) will eat into a lot of those Android gains at the low end. Price will be the competitive edge for the new iPhone line-up, and this will simply kill the profitability of a lot of Android vendors.

And an updated dual-core dual-GPU (plus some polished usability features that require such) model will probably keep Apple's lead over any single high-end Android model.

Took the words right out of my mouth. What it comes down to is the fact that Droids are basically being given away. If apple makes a cheaper version of the iPhone 4, suddenly, google won't even be able to give away their droids, and their entire business model will collapse.

On top of this, introduce a normally priced higher end iPhone 5 to continue to set an industry standard to which everything is compared. It makes sense to do it this way.

 

[Obeyjoey]

Well this blows...

I'm supposed to meet a guy today off craigslist to sell my 32gb iPhone 4! Now I'm debating on selling at all.

I am one of the many that would prefer a redesign. I've had my 4 since release date and I'm just tired of it. I don't know if I'm the only one but my 4 is very glitchy (texting freezing up, going from landscape to portrait is very glitchy, camera in HDR always having traces, and the battery blows compared to my old 3gs). If it has taken 16 months to only spec bump the 4 i say shame on you apple. I have feel that Apple is forgetting about the loyal apple consumers that buy all their products . Why hasn't anyone pointed out the fact that Apple might be releasing this "4s" because all the verizon costumers aren't eligible for upgrade yet which would hurt sales. They aren't stupid they are gonna hold off until they can get as many people into a new model as possible.

 

[bluedoggiant]

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This is a total clusterf****. The iPhone 4S is supposedly the low-end iPhone and now we have this?

I'm always confused by this theory. Why would apple develop a faster upgraded iPhone and sell it for cheap..

 

[MarkLal]

The actual quote was somethign a long the lines of "We expect a product transition that will increase iphone sales in september"

My bad. I may have mentioned wrong statements. But I only vaguely remember there was some mention by Tim Cook about having a better quarter because of a new product. That new product could be the new iPhone 5 IMO.

 

[yrsued]

Thats what I brought out...a FACT, as mentioned earlier by Tim Cook himself. I am not saying there will be or wont be a totally new redesigned iPhone, just trying to say there has to be something major coming out other than iOS5 to justify his claims.

Yes, but it doesn't have to be this Tuesday!! The Q4 of 2011 is not over yet!!

 

[DeathChill]

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I'm always confused by this theory. Why would apple develop a faster upgraded iPhone and sell it for cheap..

They would be using their massive buying power to lower the component cost, which would benefit the iPhone 4S and the iPhone 5 (making larger margins on the 5).

This lower cost iPhone 4S would allow Apple to compete with high-end Android phones with a low-end price that Android manufacturers would have a hard time competing with. Basically, it'd allow Apple to squeeze the low end Android market yet still make money (ala iPad).

EDIT: It'd also make them price competitive in markets where pre-paid is the biggest market and customers buy their phones outright (China).

 

[StyxMaker]

Pics of an iPhone 5 better surface soon...

It's really hard to take a picture of something that, apparently, doesn't exsist.

 

[charlituna]

I wonder if we'll see any change of manufacturing defect rates with the new Foxconn plant in Brazil...as oppose to the China one?

Probably not, cause we all KNOW that the defects are in the design.

 

[btrav13]

I didn't read all pages, but did anyone mention that if the phone is going to Sprint then Apple is releasing a "not an iPhone 4" newer model to a new base of 50 million customers that couldn't purchase it before?

Plus I thought they were opening this up to other carriers for the first time over seas as well. They'll get 3GS upgrades. New carrier customers. And there will be a lot of iPhone 4 customers who will buy it for the upgraded specs. Only the "die hards" are frustrated and the die hards don't make up Apples customer base.

 

[charlituna]

This may just be the regular iPhone.

From iTunes beta :

The nature of a beta is that things change. And knowing that folks will be trolling the code for clues, it is possible that Apple knowingly put in an incorrect detail or two

 

[iFrodo]

The actual quote was somethign a long the lines of "We expect a product transition that will increase iphone sales in september"

I found the exact quote, and there is no mention of the iPhone specifically, but considering that the iPhone special event is just in the september quarter, it may well be iPhone related...

The exact quote is:

We also have a future product transition that we're not going to talk about today and these things will impact our September quarter. We remain very confident in our business, our new product pipeline and our momentum.

 

[Winter Charm]

There will be an iPhone 5...

By the way, I think that it will be called an iPhone 5 no matter what. I don't think Apple will say "Here is our new A5 chip, new iOS 5, and new 5th generation iPhone called the iPhone 4S."

 

[charlituna]

They're probably going to have to send back all those thin Chinese-knockoff cases, too, that they used to hedge their bets (as if some warehouse in China had the inside scoop direct from Apple while Belkin and others twiddle their thumbs).

Yep this could be another case of someone seeing a prototype that was being test produced and thought it was the real deal. SAme thing happened with the iPod touch where cases for a camera were being created well over a year before they actually released said model

 

[yrsued]

After 457 posts, were any worth reading??

No,not much...

Just a bunch of people whinning that Apple "Might" not put out a product they never said they were going to put out that they read about in the Internet.

They read a bunch of unsubstantiated rumors on a rumor site and they take it as fact. This is Mac RUMORS not Mac Facts!!

They get pissed at Apple, not their fault!! It's not like Tim Cook said "We are going to put out a new IPhone 5 with this new shape) and then said, "Made you look"

They get Pissed at MacRumors. Dude, RUMORS, not facts!! Mac Facts puts out info AFTER the products are announced!! Mac RUMORS posts stuff they get from the internet...

Just the everyday on the net!!

 

[MarkLal]

Yes, but it doesn't have to be this Tuesday!! The Q4 of 2011 is not over yet!!

So what you are trying to say is they will announce something on Oct 4th and then announce something again within the next 3 months.

 

[charlituna]

That's what they did with the 3GS.

The 3gs wasn't just a cheap version of the 3g. It was a fully released phone that sold for a year as THE iPhone.

That said, the only reason I can see for releasing a 'cheap' iPhone 4 and calling it something different is if they go for both CDMA and GSM in one phone. so the S could mean 'single lineup of folks with both service types' to show a difference between that and the GSM or CDMA of the original iPhone 4.