Cheaper iPods at MWSF?

[captain kirk]

Originally posted by leet1
Was said on here by someone, not sure who. Maybe they will read this and back it up

It wast not said on here. What was said is that the ipod is the biggest selling hard drive based mp3 player. That doesn't necessarily mean it's not the biggest selling even including flash based.

Even if flash based players do sell slightly more than ipod you cannot compare products priced at $299-$499 with products being sold for as little as $50.

Whats important here is that the ipod is the best designed mp3 player you can buy and the fact that even at maybe 5 times the price of flash based players still sells around the same number.

NOW CAN YOU PLEASE START TALKING SOME SENSE!!!!

 

[leet1]

Originally posted by captain kirk
It wast not said on here.

What the hell, lol Im not lying It was said on here, otherwise I wouldn't have said it.

Whats important here is that the ipod is the best designed mp3 player you can buy and the fact that even at maybe 5 times the price of flash based players still sells around the same number.

Its the best designed mp3 player "for some"not all people.

 

[captain kirk]

Originally posted by leet1
What the hell, lol Im not lying It was said on here, otherwise I wouldn't have said it.



Its the best designed mp3 player "for some"not all people.

So find the quote and post it!!!!!

 

[leet1]

Originally posted by captain kirk
So find the quote and post it!!!!!

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=611554&flash+players#post611554

Must have been what I saw or atleast similar

 

[Phobophobia]

leet1, you disgust me. That link says nothing about flash players selling more. All it says is that flash players sold more than HD this year, and HARDDRIVE BASED PLAYERS WILL SELL MORE NEXT YEAR.

 

[leet1]

Originally posted by Phobophobia
leet1, you disgust me. That link says nothing about flash players selling more. All it says is that flash players sold more than HD this year, and HARDDRIVE BASED PLAYERS WILL SELL MORE NEXT YEAR.

It says nothing about flash players selling more....


all it says is that flash players sold more than hd this year.....


I may disgust you....but you confuse me...lol


Chill and move along

 

[pgwalsh]

two low end units with low prices

5GB iPod for $ 99 - Budget Pod
10GB iPod for $149 - Momma Pod
20GB iPod for $199 - Uncle Zed's Pod
40Gb iPod for $299 - MacHead Pod
60Gb ipod for $399 - Daddy's Pod

 

[Lepton]

4GB and half the size

How about 4GB, and half the physical size? New 1 inch hard drives are coming out from Toshiba, whi I believe currently supplies the 1.5 inch drives now used. My guess at the yet to be announced capacity is 4GB - could be larger. And smaller drive = lower power = smaller battery, so smaller everything results.

 

[rdowns]

Originally posted by mkaake
you are soooo *insert comment from person with no sense of humor here*- there's no way they'd be able to fit the heat sinks on that thing!

matt

Silly boy. Everyone knows Belkin will make an external one. Or was it Griffin?


edit-typo

 

[rdowns]

Re: Bad Timing

Originally posted by ~Shard~
Who is going to be buying iPods in January who didn't buy one for Christmas?

I think a price reduction would be great, but I question the timing.

All the people who get cash and Apple Store gift certificates for Xmas.

 

[rdowns]

Originally posted by achmafooma
Bingo. I don't have an iPod yet (it's on my list for next summer). When I do get one, one of my requirements is that it fit my whole collection with lots of room to spare (about 9gb at this time, and growing regularly).

I'm unpredictable when it comes to music. I could be listening to a Pink Floyd album, and then suddenly decide part-way through that I really want to hear "This is Where I Came In" by the Bee Gees or "Kim" by Eminem.

For example ;-)

And I never know which song or style I'll crave at any given moment. Part of the purpose of an iPod for me would be to have my entire music collection with me at all times.

But I certainly am not saying this is the only way to do it. Some people like the "playlist method," more power to 'em! But there are certainly people who prefer the "entire collection method" as well

I like having my entire music collection with me. I have 20 or so Smart Playlists and frequently change them while working. Never know what mood strikes.

In the spirit of full disclosure, iPods are not compatible with Bee Gees music.

 

[rdowns]

Originally posted by narco
I'm not complaining, that's why the subject is "That's Business". Especially in the IT business.

I bought a 15gig iPod a week and a half before they released the 20 gig at the same price. Sucks, yeah, but I'm still happy with my iPod.

And I bought the 15GB 2 weeks after the 20 came out for $85 less. I'm happier!

 

[shen]

Re: two low end units with low prices

Originally posted by pgwalsh
5GB iPod for $ 99 - Budget Pod
10GB iPod for $149 - Momma Pod
20GB iPod for $199 - Uncle Zed's Pod
40Gb iPod for $299 - MacHead Pod
60Gb ipod for $399 - Daddy's Pod

that is a lot of models, but it does raise a question, when will we see a 10gig 30gig 60gig line up? that would be nice especially at those prices. but i won't hold my breath.

 

[pgwalsh]

Re: Re: two low end units with low prices

Originally posted by shen
that is a lot of models, but it does raise a question, when will we see a 10gig 30gig 60gig line up? that would be nice especially at those prices. but i won't hold my breath.

True, but you have a different audience at different price ranges. Once someone fills the 5GB most likely a kid... Then they'll want the 10 and so on.. Hopefully it'll be PC users too.

 

[Gymnut]

Considering how Apple revolutionized the MP3 player market with the induction of the iPod, there's little doubt that an entry level 5GB model priced within the $150.00-$200.00 range would prompt those sitting on the fence to dive in and make the purchase. If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, look no further than at the stream of look-a-likes that have sprung up seemingly overnight. Show me an mp3 player out on the market now that has the design, ease of use, and the integration with a player/on-line music store that of itunes.

 

[Gymnut]

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Originally posted by leet1
I dont think they would blow anyone out of the water, lol. There are already 5 gig mp3 players out there for around $200

lol If that's the case, why is the iPod still the leading seller in HD based mp3 players?? lol If they're the "rectangular design" that you seem to think isn't very special, why do they outsell their lesser priced, higher capacity competitors. lol lol lol And don't give me that crap that Apple was on the scene first because Diamond Multimedia was the first to introduce the Rio 300, a flash based mp3 player. If the current line up is selling so well, who wouldn't think that a cheaper less capacity model wouldn't sell particularly well. lol lol lol Btw, the numbers don't lie.

 

[~Shard~]

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Originally posted by Gymnut
lol If that's the case, why is the iPod still the leading seller in HD based mp3 players?? lol If they're the "rectangular design" that you seem to think isn't very special, why do they outsell their lesser priced, higher capacity competitors. lol lol lol And don't give me that crap that Apple was on the scene first because Diamond Multimedia was the first to introduce the Rio 300, a flash based mp3 player. If the current line up is selling so well, who wouldn't think that a cheaper less capacity model wouldn't sell particularly well. lol lol lol Btw, the numbers don't lie.

Thanks Gymnut, it's nice to see more logical, sensible, intelligent people on here, instead of people who seem to excessively use lol every second sentence.

 

[contempt]

Why would Apple release a cheaper iPod 2 weeks AFTER Christmas??? They would miss out since anyone who wanted a cheaper mp3 player would have already gone to the competition. The timing makes no sense at all.

 

[pgwalsh]

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Originally posted by ~Shard~
Thanks Gymnut, it's nice to see more logical, sensible, intelligent people on here, instead of people who seem to excessively use lol every second sentence.

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

I know quite a few young people that would love an iPod, but can't afford one. One person, it's just her and her mother. Her mother just lost her job at United. Tough to support a daughter while she's getting her degree at Berkeley let alone affording things like an iPod.. So a $99 isn't likely, but would really entice budget buyers.

 

[~Shard~]

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Originally posted by pgwalsh
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

You know, even after that, I still don't find that as annoying as leet1's use of lol.

 

[68k_575]

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Originally posted by leet1
there is no design to a freaking rectangle lol

Design is not about tacking as much BS on as you can. Minimalism and simplicity equal good design more often than not, and especially in the iPod's case. If it had loads of extraneous crap all over it, it probably wouldn't have the cult following which is prevalent now.

 

[~Shard~]

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Originally posted by 68k_575
Design is not about tacking as much BS on as you can. Minimalism and simplicity equal good design more often than not, and especially in the iPod's case. If it had loads of extraneous crap all over it, it probably wouldn't have the cult following which is prevalent now.

Wow, another intelligent reply - I'm glad I'm not alone here. I completely agree - the most important concepts of design in my opinion are simplicity and minimalism. Please refer to my earlier post commenting on my crappy iPod design ideas and someone telll me who would want to buy that thing - well, other than leet1 from the sounds of it.

 

[leet1]

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Originally posted by ~Shard~
Thanks Gymnut, it's nice to see more logical, sensible, intelligent people on here, instead of people who seem to excessively use lol every second sentence.

oh shut the **** up, seriously. If someone doesn't agree with your opinion about a damn rectangle obviously, they are wrong.

In my eyes, its a damn rectangle.

the most important concepts of design in my opinion are simplicity and minimalism.

IN YOUR OPINION <-----YOUR opinion........get it? its YOUR opinion.

 

[Gymnut]

Well that's one of the freedoms we enjoy, the freedom to choose. I agree, the iPod may not be for everyone, in terms of its size(being either too small/big) or its price. leet, your Rio obviously suits you as my Rio 300, 500, and 600 used to but your original qualm was that you didn't think that a 5GB iPod, reasonably priced between the $150.00-$200.00 range would cause so much of a blip on the radar screen of the mp3 player market. I agree, there are an assortment of mp3 players out now, a great deal many are cheaper and have higher capacities than that of the iPod. Yet despite all the advantages that these "iPod killers" have, the iPod still outmanages to outsell them all. And not only outsell them "new" but even used, the first and second generation iPods entertain a fantastic resale rate. If this is all so, it would be ludicrous to think that a cheaper entry level iPod would not sell. No offense but I felt your latter posts were to argue for arguments sake.

 

[Gymnut]

Food for thought.

http://www.macnn.com/news/20011