More updated food for thought. Again, the numbers do not lie.
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_news.cfm?NewsID=7090
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_news.cfm?NewsID=7090
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Tone it down leet1.
There are ways to express your opinion without trying to piss people off. Please do so.
arn
Originally posted by leet1
oh shut the **** up, seriously. If someone doesn't agree with your opinion about a damn rectangle obviously, they are wrong.
In my eyes, its a damn rectangle.
Tone it down leet1.
There are ways to express your opinion without trying to piss people off. Please do so.
arn
I do not believe the issue at hand was with the iPod being of a rectangular design. Yes, it being a rectangle is not a major selling point if at all. Many HD's are rectangular by nature so it's not difficult to see why the iPod is rectangular. What is the point is that yes, design opinions are exactly that, opinions, interpreted differently by people of all walks of life. I feel like I'm beating a dead horse but again the iPod is still king of the hill despite so many new entries in the mp3 player market that are cheaper and have higher capacities.
It is sad to read someone implying that design is only constituted by shape or color. The secret of successful design is to strike the perfect balance of aesthetic and functionality, and the brilliance of the iPod has really been its circular control wheel, not the shape of the case by any means.
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Ah, I see, now weve resorted to swearing at people how mature. I was expecting another lol. And please quote my post where I said you were wrong I believe all I ever commented on was your lack of a convincing argument and some illogical statements you made regarding design. You state your argument, I state mine. However the problem is that your original argument cited that a 5 GB iPod priced between $150-$200 would not even be noticed in the MP3 market. Yet over and over, the facts show that the iPod outsells them all and has a higher resell value than all of them even if these competitors have larger capacities and smaller prices. If you presented more constructive arguments regarding your issues perhaps you wouldnt receive the type of feedback youre receiving right now.
Well thanks leet1, you sure have a talent for pointing out the obvious. My opinions are my opinions? Gee, thanks I wouldnt have figured that out if you hadnt pointed that out to me. Get it? Its your opinion? - hmm, I think I do now...
Can we please continue with an intelligent debate on this subject now, instead of resorting to immature swearing? Or is that too much to ask?
Originally posted by leet1
oh shut the **** up, seriously. If someone doesn't agree with your opinion about a damn rectangle obviously, they are wrong.
In my eyes, its a damn rectangle.
Ah, I see, now weve resorted to swearing at people how mature. I was expecting another lol. And please quote my post where I said you were wrong I believe all I ever commented on was your lack of a convincing argument and some illogical statements you made regarding design. You state your argument, I state mine. However the problem is that your original argument cited that a 5 GB iPod priced between $150-$200 would not even be noticed in the MP3 market. Yet over and over, the facts show that the iPod outsells them all and has a higher resell value than all of them even if these competitors have larger capacities and smaller prices. If you presented more constructive arguments regarding your issues perhaps you wouldnt receive the type of feedback youre receiving right now.
Well thanks leet1, you sure have a talent for pointing out the obvious. My opinions are my opinions? Gee, thanks I wouldnt have figured that out if you hadnt pointed that out to me. Get it? Its your opinion? - hmm, I think I do now...
Can we please continue with an intelligent debate on this subject now, instead of resorting to immature swearing? Or is that too much to ask?
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Thanks Arn, its nice to see these forums dont go unmoderated and unchecked. It's actually a welcome change from some forums I've been on where swearing, insulting, and immaturity prevade the discussions and run them into the ground.
Thanks Arn, its nice to see these forums dont go unmoderated and unchecked. It's actually a welcome change from some forums I've been on where swearing, insulting, and immaturity prevade the discussions and run them into the ground.
This is silly.
It's the Defenders of the iPod against the Lone Holdout.
There is a lot of sense in both sides of this argument. If you think the iPod is the best designed MP3 player out there, fine. If you don't think so, also fine. The market is filled with choices, thank goodness, so that everyone can buy the product that rocks their boat the way they want it rocked.
You are arguing for and against peoples' personal tastes. You shouldn't do that.
It's the Defenders of the iPod against the Lone Holdout.
There is a lot of sense in both sides of this argument. If you think the iPod is the best designed MP3 player out there, fine. If you don't think so, also fine. The market is filled with choices, thank goodness, so that everyone can buy the product that rocks their boat the way they want it rocked.
You are arguing for and against peoples' personal tastes. You shouldn't do that.
don't get it
more importantly, sometimes people just don't get it. i mean come on, some people just can't see the point of an argument like "it works well" or maybe "it is easy to use" and for them, they want other things in their products.
come on people, this is a Mac board. how many windows users "will just never get it" no matter what you say to them? sometimes it really is a matter of what is important to them.
if "a well designed music player" means very small with neon lights and a curvy shape that has a built in clip for my pocket protector to someone, then i wish them luck, but i don't wish them an iPod.
having said that, anyone who thinks a $100-$145 5 gig iPod wouldn't sell is on crack. a friend just spent almost $100 for 256 megs in a player. yes, it is smaller than the iPod, but he just had to stick to a budget, he doesn't care about the size. if he could have waited a month and spent $50 more to get 5 gigs, he is going to be pissed!
more importantly, sometimes people just don't get it. i mean come on, some people just can't see the point of an argument like "it works well" or maybe "it is easy to use" and for them, they want other things in their products.
come on people, this is a Mac board. how many windows users "will just never get it" no matter what you say to them? sometimes it really is a matter of what is important to them.
if "a well designed music player" means very small with neon lights and a curvy shape that has a built in clip for my pocket protector to someone, then i wish them luck, but i don't wish them an iPod.
having said that, anyone who thinks a $100-$145 5 gig iPod wouldn't sell is on crack. a friend just spent almost $100 for 256 megs in a player. yes, it is smaller than the iPod, but he just had to stick to a budget, he doesn't care about the size. if he could have waited a month and spent $50 more to get 5 gigs, he is going to be pissed!
No, if that's what they want, that's what they should get. Luck is not relevant. I am sold on the iPod (in fact I bought a 30GB for myself 6 months ago and three more last month as gifts), but it took a LONG time for me to justify the purchase of the first one. I think there are others that deliver better sound quality where more attention has been paid to the digital-to-analog converter and headphone amplifier. I won't go into all the reasons for and against my eventual decision to buy the iPod, but the fact remains that the iPod was not a love-at-first-sight, gotta-have-it thing for me. It's very well designed, certainly, but it still has lots of room for improvement.