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Chinese AI Firm Wants Apple to Stop iPhone Production Over Patent Infringement Claims
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LOL.
If it wasn't already painfully clear that Jobs and Cook made the terrible mistake of setting up shop in China. Yes, you need to pull out completely. ANY company that wants to survive should have no business in China.
If it wasn't already painfully clear that Jobs and Cook made the terrible mistake of setting up shop in China. Yes, you need to pull out completely. ANY company that wants to survive should have no business in China.
That’s not possible unless labour laws are amended, unions are outlawed, and minimum wages are abolished.
What about beef 🥩?
$1.4b for 1.4 billion people, everyone gets a dollar 😂
If you are sick all your life, then ultimately you become half a doctor.
When you trace the alphabet long enough, eventually you will be able to write them.
If they invest more in STEM education and research, plus the population dividend, plus the work ethic, it’s just a matter of time.
That’s why they filed patent injunctions in China. They did not ask the US to stop importing Apple products. They asked China to stop Apple’s businesses in China’s jurisdiction. Also, most Chinese patents are international patents due to federal incentives.
Have you considered the existing patent differential between the two legal jurisdictions? The name collision rate for registering for a username on something like Reddit vs some no name personal bbs site is huge, but it doesn’t mean one registrar doesn’t do as good of a job moderating usernames.
Siri is not even a low hanging fruit to scream patent infringement. It's a half chewed fruit rotting on the pavement really. Did they really have to choose Siri to make this demand?
i would not put it pass Xiao-i Robot that they copied the AI tech from somebody else, added very minor changes and then claimed it's their own work.
There is very small amounts of tech coming out of China that it can claim to be it's 'own'. A huge amount of the tech China claims to have produced being theirs is actually tech they have stolen from other companies.
There is very small amounts of tech coming out of China that it can claim to be it's 'own'. A huge amount of the tech China claims to have produced being theirs is actually tech they have stolen from other companies.
Maybe it’s a genuine case instead of someone just wants to bring Apple down?
That is so true, but a lot of people here don't know it, get it or see it.I find it interesting that most times when some western patent troll sues Apple there will be a chorus of “evil Apple stealing other people’s dreams”; where are those posters this time?
Don’t get me wrong, patent abuse is an international problem, I am not defending this specific case.
And to all of those Americans waving the flag saying Apple should bring all production “home”, well, as of Q2 67% of Apple’s revenues came from outside the US, somewhere around 20% from China. The rest of the world, or the source of the majority of Apple’s revenue, is unlikely to be as enthusiastic about dramatically increased costs for Apple products in order to support a protectionist and isolating policy in the US. If Apple were given an ultimatum that they had to bring all production ”home” simple economics show Apple would be better to move to another country. Except that Apple has a lot of talented employees in the US that would be difficult to replace, reasonably assuming they would be reluctant to relocate.
Wow, it is almost like international economies are an intricate and complex web that defy populist ideology. Go figure.
Taiwan is apart of China. They both even claim to be the official China. Don’t let the civil war divide what they are. They are China. Taiwan doesn’t argue it’s not China. In fact they argue they are China. They are called officially the Republic of China. But eventually they’ll be part of the PRC.Foxconn - Wikipedia
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It's Taiwanese.
I will only say hopefully not! Hopefully they will get to be their own independent country.
The short lifespan of mobile devices is probably a big factor here why human labour is still in such a need. To get an automatic production line of highly skilled robots to pump out as much product as a fully staffed Foxconn factory is likely no small task.
Next month, some small Chinese company will claim that they have patents on all the new features of the iPhone 13. They will also claim that they've registered these patents since the Ming Dynasty era, so their claim is bulletproof because they were way ahead of of the West by centuries!
You can’t just keep the patent trolls to the USA, let other nations enjoy them too!
In the US, nope. As long as there is income, there will be capitalism. If you find a solution to up shareholder value while at the same time move all these jobs to a country like the US where they actually never were to begin with, so let us know.
As long as Apple cannot grow at the same rate as they did in any other TC year, the idea is a paperweight.
Now if you pitch your universal income slightly below of what a Foxconn worker in China makes, you may have a chance. You’d then just need to get all the parts from mostly Asia over as well. That’s a few more industries to add.
The jobs were here. Where do you think the Machintosh was manufactured.. Eventually the stock exchange will be taxed to pay all sorts of things. Eventually democrats will have enough control to pass all those bills. China is rapidly growing the middle class- eventually China will guarantee universal income. Those things will be solved. Asia won’t be the source of high tech manufacturing forever. And it’s not a labor issue. It’s a training and education issue. Those making the machines to build iPhones don’t exist yet in USA. Tim Cook said that is the reason the iPhone isn’t made here.
It's one factor to be sure. I expect that if an automatic production line of highly skilled robots was easy, they would have done it already. There's a lot of practical advantages from a logistics standpoint (e.g. once you've taught one robot a skill, you've taught them all, and you can run the factory 24/7).
It's not about prior art but the other factors. A patent have several basic requirements: Subject Matter Eligibility, Utility, and Novelty (a.k.a "non-obvious"). This is considered as a universal value that all the countries with a patent system should follow.
What you said is only a small section of the last factor.
A patent is not just "different from other people's idea" (a.k.a. "prior art") but the methods, processes, or mechanisms are patentable. A patent can not be a concept but an "instruction", that other people with enough can follow it to get the same result. And the idea of a patent must not be disclosed before you deliver the application, either by you or other people in any circumstances like books, published papers, or even "folklores". Prior Art is not just about another patent registration.
Less than one third of rejected patents from me are "collided" with the prior art, the rest are not satisfying the first or second rule. They do not have a clear subject that is patentable, or the subject range is too large, or too vague. In other words, they're not a useful instruction for other people to follow.
USPTO stopped these patents that doesn't satisfy the quality requirements, but China patent office didn't care about that.
P.S. Yes, folklores are also prior arts. An urban legend about USPTO: someone tried to apply a patent about scavenging sunken ships by attaching large bags to ship body, and pumping in air. This application was reject because Micky Mouse had been already doing so in one cartoon episode; they're filling the cabin with ping pong balls.
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How long has USPTO existed? How long has China’s? Give the Chinese the same number of years to develop and you will be amazed how outdated the USPTO is.
So what are you want to express ? Everyone made mistakes in their green days ? Well you can say that to ISIS.
It is young doesn't mean it is not a joke right now. And it doesn't mean the rest of world should unsee this. Patent law affects not only their citizen but anyone who makes business with China. China is no longer closed market and everyone needs to compete with each other, and the least thing people wanted is unfair competition rules and half-baked economic system.
Hey don't get me wrong, I'm ethnic Chinese too and I'm not U.S. citizen. And I said it was a joke not because I'm a liberal or conservative, but I'm an engineer and I invents things.