Chinese Labor Group Alleges Major Labor Violations at Apple iPhone 5C Supplier Jabil Circuit [Update: Apple to Investigate]

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Chinese labor rights group China Labor Watch (CLW) has released a report (via The Next Web) bringing forth allegations of major labor abuses at a Chinese factory belonging to Jabil Circuit, a U.S.-based supplier to Apple. Specifically, the workers rights group accuses the company of numerous labor and wage violations, including millions of dollars in unpaid overtime wages, over 100 hours of monthly mandatory overtime, hiring discrimination, and excessive standing work.

    Additionally, the report states that the factory is currently producing Apple's lower-cost iPhone 5C as these alleged labor violations have been taking place, a device which should be unveiled next Tuesday.
    Last month, the group also alleged poor working conditions at primary Apple supplier Pegatron, stating specific violations such as the unethical holding of worker pay as well as poor living conditions. Apple announced in July that it was forming an academic advisory board for its Supplier Responsibility program, saying that it wanted to ensure "safe and ethical working conditions wherever its products are made." Apple has also published Supplier Responsibility Progress Reports every year since 2007, tracking the ethical progress of its suppliers in order to bring transparency to its product manufacturing process.

    Update: Apple issued this statement to AllThingsD, saying the company takes "any concerns about [its] suppliers very seriously":
    Article Link: Chinese Labor Group Alleges Major Labor Violations at Apple iPhone 5C Supplier Jabil Circuit [Update: Apple to Investigate]
  2. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem


    Feb 19, 2005
    It is interesting to me that Apple has "failed to compel supplier factories to conform to Apple's code of conduct and local labor laws before giving these suppliers Apple production orders." So why not find a supplier who does? Is there actually a shortage of suppliers?
  3. 158273 macrumors regular

    Aug 29, 2013
    Politically-correct people = "lower-cost iPhone 5C"

    Real people = "cheap iPhone"
  4. firedept macrumors 603


    Jul 8, 2011
    Why am I not surprised by another story of labour irregularities by a Chinese supplier doing work for Apple. Apple should be hiring people to oversee these companies so they stay in compliance with Apple's conduct demands.
  5. DipDog3 macrumors 65816


    Sep 20, 2002
    Could probably say the same thing about every minimum wage fast food job in the US.
  6. newdeal macrumors 68020

    Oct 21, 2009
    If only it were the iPhone 5S that they were doing there then we could call it the iPhone 5(Sweatshop). What clever words start with a C that get the same point across


    Gotta keep margins high to keep stock holders happy. Can't afford to pay people a real wage to assemble devices
  7. Asia8 macrumors regular

    Jun 27, 2011
    "Apple has continually failed to compel supplier factories to conform to Apple’s code of conduct and local labor laws before giving these suppliers Apple production orders"

    I just don't see how people can try and make it seem like it's Apple's fault... Surely this is the fault of the factory and the responsibility of the contracted company and the local government to rectify this.

    Certainly Apple can try and make a show that they're trying to do the right thing, but trying to blame it on Apple... That Apple is failing... It seems wrong.

    I can blame Apple for lots, but not really for this one.
  8. firedept macrumors 603


    Jul 8, 2011
    I get you. Was thinking of one or two people strategically placed, that work directly for Apple, who could oversee that things are being done properly. For the small cost to Apple, I would think that better than the bad publicity.
  9. Skika macrumors 68030

    Mar 11, 2009
    so they confirmed the cheap iPhone ahead of launch :confused:
  10. winston1236 macrumors 68000

    Dec 13, 2010
    Are you expecting an apology from all of the people suffering from corporate wage suppression?
  11. charlituna macrumors G3


    Jun 11, 2008
    Los Angeles, CA
    Trouble is that even if Apple was in compliance these groups would make a stink. It's a game. Like figuring out ways to leak info and making knockoffs.
  12. Lone Deranger macrumors 65816

    Lone Deranger

    Apr 23, 2006


    iPhone5(C)hild Labour.
  13. ascylto macrumors newbie

    Feb 10, 2009
    Bad conditions of work.

    Since time began bad labour conditions have been associated with up-and-coming regimes like China. Just look back at working and pay conditions in North America and the UK to sustain upcoming companies and growth.

    Just look. It's normal.

    It's only since we gained the ability to have our views aired to so many people that we've gained 'consciences' about what we do to whom and for what reason.

    Again, it's normal!!!
  14. CylonGlitch macrumors 68030


    Jul 7, 2009
    Exactly, and because of that, I (personally) really don't care anymore. If a product is made in China, guess what, it's likely got components made in these conditions. Doesn't matter who's name is on it at the end.
  15. Ochyandkaren macrumors 6502

    Apr 3, 2010

    Local governments are often easy to bribe, in China and everywhere.
  16. oliversl macrumors 65816

    Jun 29, 2007
    Its not Apple fault if the government and the company lies to them. Blaming Apple on this makes human right groups looks unethical.
  17. ValSalva macrumors 68040


    Jun 26, 2009
    Burpelson AFB
    So true. And these Chinese factory jobs are apparently in high demand. This issue will never be satisfied for these watchdog groups until Apple is somehow irrelevant and then they'll move on from Apple's carcass and target someone else.
  18. Count Blah macrumors 68030

    Count Blah

    Jan 6, 2004
    US of A
    So what IS your threshold for holding Apple accountable? Worker beatings? Child labor? Slave labor? Or could Apple's suppliers be doing ALL of these, and you STILL wouldn't want Apple to intervene?
  19. TreyCox macrumors regular

    Jan 6, 2012
    Swainsboro, Ga
    iPhone 5(Sweatshop)
    iPhone 5(Chain-gang)
  20. macchiato2009 macrumors 65816

    Aug 14, 2009
    Apple... the richest company in the world thanks to modern slavery :rolleyes:
  21. charlituna macrumors G3


    Jun 11, 2008
    Los Angeles, CA
    There is that too. China has a tight hold in a large rare earth metal cache and if you want the metals the components have to be made there as the raw materials are illegal to export. It's part of how China pulled in jobs back in the day and how they keep them there

    I would love to see products from any major company made in regional centers so that those that buy are supporting 'local' labor. But even then it will likely just be final assembly as the smaller parts will still be made in China for the most part. Japan just found a big cache of some of the metals in question so a bit might turn up there but as I recall it's not all the needed metals so it won't be a total flip off.
  22. Alumeenium macrumors regular

    May 15, 2013
    sounds like a shakedown

    I'm sure some other company would rather build these
  23. Ochyandkaren, Sep 5, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2013

    Ochyandkaren macrumors 6502

    Apr 3, 2010
    … You can say the same about the West. Ancient Rome, The USA, UK, France, Spain …

    Strange is, Microsoft, DELL, etc … get RICH the same way, but noOne did care about those exploited Asians.
    Actually calling it slavery is an insult for those who were raped and treated like disposable possession.
    Those people are FREE!
  24. macs4nw macrumors 68040


    Short of putting people on the shop floors of all these mega-factories, I'm not sure what else Apple can do. They can lay out their policy, and issue yearly reports, but unless they're actually there, when these gross labor infractions take place, Apple is in the dark as to what really goes on there. And they certainly can be lied to as well, as far as what's going on, after they turn their backs.

    Being such a high profile company, they're sitting ducks for all this criticism, that should be directed at the industry as a whole, and not just Apple.

    We --the western world-- can put all the pressure on those factories, we want, but any lasting reforms, with strict oversight, must ultimately be implemented by the Chinese authorities.
  25. carlgo macrumors 68000

    Dec 29, 2006
    And all this only saves a few labor bucks over US production, $4 in the case of the Google phone.

    The real savings is in tax avoidance and being able to dump stuff in the rivers.

    Apple is merely the the biggest and most interesting US company there, but every Hecho en China product has the same background.

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