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Chinese Labor Group Alleges Major Labor Violations at Apple iPhone 5C Supplier Jabil Circuit [Update: Apple to Investigate]

Jabil

Jabil is located in the biggest low wage state in the Union...Florida.
They are located in St. Petersburg and they do assembly there but they
chose to find even lower cost labor in China. Of course this is Obama's fault as he will not lower the minimum wage to world standards...fifty cents per hours
 
Samsung paid to have accusations published at this time.

With a documented history of Fraud and Bribery should be closely associated with the Samsung Brand From the Independent: A series of scandals in the last decade led to the conviction of several Samsung executives for bribing politicians. In 2008 Lee Kun-Hee – Korea’s richest man – was forced to quit as group chairman and fined $100m after being convicted of tax evasion and breach of trust following an investigation sparked by the wiretaps. But a year later the country’s pro-business president Lee Myung-bak controversially pardoned him. Samsung’s leader took full responsibility for the shame caused by the investigation, but denied wrongdoing. “I didn’t do it. I never thought it [Samsung Group] was a criminal organisation, and I think it is [the media’s] fault to define it that way,” said Mr Lee, who has since returned to Samsung Electronics as chairman.

The wiretaps resulted in no one from Samsung being indicted, although they did spark the investigation that eventually saw Mr Lee fined and jailed. The recordings were from 1997 but were not published until eight years later, falling foul of South Korea’s statute of limitations. Hwang Kyo-ahn, the senior prosecutor, said that there was no evidence the money belonged to Samsung rather than Mr Lee himself, who claimed the money was a donation and not a bribe. Mr Hwang said in 2005: “The prosecution has conducted a thorough investigation of the spy agency’s illegal wiretapping operations… However, with the statute of limitations … expiring and the spy agency already having destroyed a significant part of the related evidence, there had been difficulties in pushing ahead with the investigation.” By contrast Mr Roh has lost his seat, and the two journalists who helped break the story were themselves indicted. But Mr Roh’s zeal remains undimmed. “If I go back to eight years ago, I would still do the same thing,” he said.
 
Count Blah said:
Ahh yes, telling me to vet this INSTEAD of apple. Yeah, that doesn't sound like a defense of apple at all, how silly of me :rolleyes:
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Not what I meant. You are the one concerned about it. So, what's your plan?

Apple already handles stuff like this, as the update shows, I certainly don't need to do anything for them, including stand up for them.
 
The world is a cruel and unfair place.
I feel pretty confident that a benefit of having Cook as Apple CEO is that issues like these are given way more attention than ever before.
 
Who is the Chinese Labor Watch?

While I am all for decent and safe working conditions for all workers, it is interesting to note just who is the "Chinese Labor Watch". It is really just a couple of paid employees (based in New York, USA) and some volunteers and interns.

From the 2012 Annual report:

Board of Directors
Dorothy J. Solinger, professor of political science at the University of California at Irvine
William J. Hurst, assistant professor of Asian studies at the University of Texas at Austin
Tom Deluca, Founder and CEO of CCI Consulting

New York Staff
Li Qiang, Founder and Executive Director
Kevin Slaten, Program Coordinator

Volunteers and Interns
Bessie Zhang
Justin McDonnell
Greg Fay
Momo Ren
Fengyin Lin
Yanlin Cai
Leo Liu
Yuan Fan
Xiaoou Huang
Yuting Zhu
Adam Supraner
Chuchu Song
 
Rogifan said:
Amazing how these labor groups throw out allegations and immediately everyone takes them for the gospel truth without even giving Apple the opportunity to respond. Also curious that this "news" comes out a few days before a major product launch. :rolleyes: …..
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Curious indeed. Apple does more in this arena, than any other company I can think of. These are targeted attacks, for maximum exposure; their aim is to shame Apple into giving in to their --by Chinese standards-- unrealistic, and ever escalating demands.

…..For everyone complaining in this thread, if it bothers you so much quit buying Apple products. Limit your purchase to companies that don't employee Chinese labor and pay workers what you consider a fair wage.
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Many of these complainers are no doubt first in line to get their hands on the latest, greatest product releases. Buying those products, while complaining about Apple's 'unconscionable' business dealings, makes those who do so, hypocrites.

Sure Apple could, and should, lean on those companies abusing their workers, but the ultimate responsibility for creating and enforcing Chinese labor laws lies squarely with the local authorities.
 
Count Blah said:
Ahh yes, defend at all costs. How about we refer to apple's own site for the responsibility, that they assure their customers, they are assuming.

https://www.apple.com/supplierresponsibility/

Unless you and the others are going to claim that this portion of Apple's site has been hacked, and that they never claimed to be taking steps to prevent items like this ever happening?

The lengths some people go to, to deflect any and all criticism of Apple is amazing.
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Defends animal rights with his life. Continues shopping for a new leather wallet...
 
Because you are ignorant of Apple's fare labor standards

Try doing some research before suggesting Apple is not working hard on workers rights. Apple is in the lead with working condition improvements and has earned the respect of those that work in supplier factories even though some wish to work longer hours to support distant families. Can't help but wonder such articles have the support of Samsung propagandists. Any thing to dim the light on competitors.


firedept said:
Why am I not surprised by another story of labour irregularities by a Chinese supplier doing work for Apple. Apple should be hiring people to oversee these companies so they stay in compliance with Apple's conduct demands.
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Count Blah said:
Ahh yes, defend at all costs. How about we refer to apple's own site for the responsibility, that they assure their customers, they are assuming.

https://www.apple.com/supplierresponsibility/

Unless you and the others are going to claim that this portion of Apple's site has been hacked, and that they never claimed to be taking steps to prevent items like this ever happening?

The lengths some people go to, to deflect any and all criticism of Apple is amazing.
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And people's refusal to apply the same standards to other companies is appalling.
 
vulcan33 said:
Try doing some research before suggesting Apple is not working hard on workers rights. Apple is in the lead with working condition improvements and has earned the respect of those that work in supplier factories even though some wish to work longer hours to support distant families. Can't help but wonder such articles have the support of Samsung propagandists. Any thing to dim the light on competitors.
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No where did I suggest Apple was not doing enough for workers rights. Apple does work hard at it. I said Apple should hire people to oversee these companies so they stick to Apple's conduct codes.

This way articles such as this do not get written or can be responded too.
 
msimpson said:
While I am all for decent and safe working conditions for all workers, it is interesting to note just who is the "Chinese Labor Watch". It is really just a couple of paid employees (based in New York, USA) and some volunteers and interns.

From the 2012 Annual report:

Board of Directors
Dorothy J. Solinger, professor of political science at the University of California at Irvine
William J. Hurst, assistant professor of Asian studies at the University of Texas at Austin
Tom Deluca, Founder and CEO of CCI Consulting

New York Staff
Li Qiang, Founder and Executive Director
Kevin Slaten, Program Coordinator

Volunteers and Interns
Bessie Zhang
Justin McDonnell
Greg Fay
Momo Ren
Fengyin Lin
Yanlin Cai
Leo Liu
Yuan Fan
Xiaoou Huang
Yuting Zhu
Adam Supraner
Chuchu Song
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In other words, they probably don't have a clue what is going on in China, and just want to get their organization name in the papers. Apple makes a great target for that.
 
firedept said:
No where did I suggest Apple was not doing enough for workers rights. Apple does work hard at it. I said Apple should hire people to oversee these companies so they stick to Apple's conduct codes.

This way articles such as this do not get written or can be responded too.
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Apple performs regular audits, and there are independent audits by Chinese organisations as well. Obviously this will never prevent articles like this to be written, because the reason for these articles is to get more funding which pays the salaries. And what is Apple supposed to respond? This American-based "Chinese Labor Group" claims they found things going on that are wrong. Apple hasn't found these things or they would have reacted already. So all Apple can say is "we haven't seen these things in our audits".

But I will bet that Apple won't be able to get information from this group that would enable them to verify that these problems exist or not.
 
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