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Chinese Online Retailers Start Second Round of iPhone Discounts
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We needs to collectively slow down the purchase of iPhones here (in North Ameirca) too. It's not like Apple isn't profitable and struggling to stay afloat.
I have no dog in that fight, as I am not all-in into AAPL.
(Personally, I prefer a weighted mix of Vanguard index stocks -- and never a single company's stock.)
You mentioned 2018 revenue, so just to remind you that trends matter:
"Apple booked $13 billion in revenue from China last quarter, down 27% from a year ago" [WSJ]
Apple's trend in China appears not going to dramatically improve, and Cook's services pipeline there has no meaning, as well.
Again, just my view.
It’s new to Apple. Let’s call it an innovative move by Apple and hope this will get introduced worldwide soon.
Come on Timmy, you can do it and can still counting beans.
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Sorry I don’t. But if the Chinese model does work in Europe, can you pick me a XS too
8 Plus doesn't just have higher resolution, it has a much, much higher pixel density. Bottom line is that small text clarity on the XR is not as good as 8 Plus, despite what semantics you want to use.
BTW, this actually makes even more of a difference in China, considering the complexity of Chinese characters vs. character size.
Dunno, but if there is no price drop on the OLED models, I'm not buying, unless they make the entry level model 128 GB (which I doubt).
No way I'm paying 57% more than XR just to get more than 64 GB storage.
KDDI in Japan via their online shop are sending me love SMS messages more frequently now to upgrade my 6s dangling golden carrots in the form of discount coupons for trade in.
Man they look desperate.
Japanese government now pounding main carriers to get their act together in 2019 and be more transparent with data package breakdowns. God there are so many data plans the carriers push in your face....to totally confuse, lure you and lock you in long term....upsold together with the latest shiny overpriced Apple phone hardware of course.
No way I will budge and lock myself into a new contract with shackles attached ... the greed in pricing seems to be oozing from both ends.... Apple and the carriers....but if people get smart and catch on, just a matter of time until the long honeymoon they both enjoyed will be over.
Man they look desperate.
Japanese government now pounding main carriers to get their act together in 2019 and be more transparent with data package breakdowns. God there are so many data plans the carriers push in your face....to totally confuse, lure you and lock you in long term....upsold together with the latest shiny overpriced Apple phone hardware of course.
No way I will budge and lock myself into a new contract with shackles attached ... the greed in pricing seems to be oozing from both ends.... Apple and the carriers....but if people get smart and catch on, just a matter of time until the long honeymoon they both enjoyed will be over.
Yeah, I am in the boat of 64 to small, 128 probably perfect, 256 like the idea but probably overkill for me for another $100-150
it should, but they won't because the western market buys Apple regardless of price.
The product tier pricing is basically unreasonable.
iPhone XR 64 GB: US$749 / CAD$1029
iPhone XR 128 GB: US$799 / CAD$1099
iPhone XS Max 64 GB: $1099 / CAD$1519
iPhone XS Max 256 GB: $1249 / CAD$1729
I still am inclined to believe this was partially the influence of Angela Ahrendts, who cut her teeth as CEO of a luxury brand. And I also think the reason she's out of Apple now is because the plan has failed. In fact, Apple announced her departure at Chinese New Year. I think that says something.
The same goes for me. I owned every iteration of the iPhone since its release, but I skipped 2018 for the same reasons. The thing is, rumors are heaping up that we won't see any incremental design upgrades this year, so we gotta hope for at least FaceID 2 and/or a fundamentally improved camera system. Otherwise, I might even wait 'til 2020.
I was ready to buy an XS Max last year to replace my 7 Plus, but didn't because of the pricing. I'm inclined to wait until 2020 now. I was thinking maybe 2019 but I expect to be disappointed again in 2019.
Don’t do it. I am in China (mainland), too, and I had a friend buy it for me in Hong Kong. Mainland Chinese version is crippled - it can’t do FaceTime audio. Another difference is the low battery charge notification - “20% charge left”, “10% charge left” - produces audible sound even when the screen is off. HK version, on the other hand, is 1000RMB cheaper, has no quirks and limitations and comes with dual SIM capability.
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Also, something I noticed by studying the specs. I have an HK iPhone XR and it doesn’t support LTE band 28 which is apparently used in France (also Japan) - same goes for the China (mainland) version. On the other hand it does support some more obscure American bands while the European version doesn’t.
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Just checked Wikipedia and it says Band 28 is in use in several other European countries: Finland, Germany, Sweden... So I would definitely prefer a European version if I planned on staying in Europe for the next several years, as other EU countries might follow with adopting that frequency.
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And bring back touch ID as another way to log in (along with Face ID)
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The Chinese model comes with build in Spyware.
The European model you have to download it.
If you're buying iphones for their eventual resale value, you're head isn't screwed on right anyway.
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if they just stopped the nonsense with low storage options and stuck to 128 and 512 that would solve a lot of issues. stop ripping us off with higher costs for storage and making some versions not have the same options. I won't upgrade until I have to now. Irritates me that they keep separating the lower price and higher price models by so many options. give us the same storage options for all phones, the same damn camera on every phone, same color options for each phone and make the pricing scheme reflect on screen and size only!
It merely just to show, what you are actually paying. People blame Apple for pricing, but in reality it is the sales tax.
Yeah, you aren't breaking news. Literally everyone knows (especially investors) the revenue in China was down...we were told multiple times and even told in early January by Cook. The good news is, China was responsible for the entire revenue shortfall.
Further, China still grew revenue for the trailing 12 months, DESPITE a 27% decrease in Q1. Think about that. US, Canada, Spain, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Korea, Vietnam and several other countries set records.
You are way too focused on literally one quarter of data, but as a non investor, you don't know the numbers as well as investors.
I am also under no illusions that China was bad and APple needs to fix it. Let's see where China goes from here. Currently, it's a huge market for Apple despite the decrease in the most recent quarter. As I said, the revenue in China was still up y/y.
We are also coming off a year where Apple had $266B overall, up from $233B.
I agree and have said for a long time, pricing pressure on Apple's IOS line is just in the early stages. You can already purchase good quality smartphones with 6" screens, dual SIMs and other decent features at under $100. When automobiles first hit the U.S. market they were very expensive, then Ford gave the U.S. a decent automobile at a great price.
Apple lead the way with today's smartphone. They were the trailblazer and innovated many great features, but that trailblazing path is now well worn for others to follow. We will continue to see more good quality smartphones at lower and lower prices, which will continue to cut into Apple's market share.
My head, just like many other iPhone buyers, has two mounting configurations. One is price sensitive, the other is not. Usually it’s the Apple’s marketing that picks the mount.
I just got myself the leftover stock SE last month for $299 with 128GB and quite satisfied. I don't need all that extra gadgets and not willing to pay the price asked from X thru current models. With the trend in prices of phones nowadays, I will end up buying old models at lower prices.
They can get rid of the notch tomorrow without losing any functionality if they stop obsessing with edge-to-edge screen and go back to slim horizontal bezels. Just imagine a narrow solid black line (4-5 mm) at the top and bottom of the screen so we get nice rectangular screens again, which would be great for watching photos, videos, etc.