Chinese Report Expects 11-Inch iPad Pro at WWDC, No New iPhones Until Second Half of 2018

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Before people complain about the lack of an SE update, see it as a chance for them to include an A11 later rather than an A10 now.

The problem with this idea is that we all have iPad Mini and Mac Mini experiences too (and some have Mac Pro experiences)...

"Before people complain about the lack of a Mac Mini update, see it as a chance for them to include Skylake, no Kaby Lake, no Coffee Lake". And where's a quad-core" processor? And the wait just ticks on and on, now 1,244 days since last release (which, by the way, many considered a step back from the 2012 Mac Mini by Apple taking key things away, rather than tangibly upgrading the 2012)

FYI: there's a post on this site called "The new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming" started Dec 7, 2013 with 11,862 replies (in 475 pages) and well over 1.5M views. It's packed full of enthusiasm for a new Mac Mini that flares up over and over in new Mini anticipation, only to be dashed by Apple opting to do nothing... again... and again.

Same with iPad Mini: still for sale with an amazing A8 processor, when Apple has since rolled out an A9, A10 and A11. It's now 357 days since the last release (and A12 likely about 6 months from release). In countless threads, you can see people writing much enthusiasm about buying a "5" as soon as Apple would roll one out... how it's the "perfect" tablet form factor and how the new iPhone phablet and/or the bezel-less iPad still have the big hole in the in-between sizes that a refreshed mini would fill.

I'll hope right with you but Apple sets an example of losing interest in select products and letting them just wait and wait and wait on updates. It very well could be that Apple is right on top of anticipating the latest & greatest chips but history shows a lot of latest & greatest coming & going. What's different this time?

 

[Lesser Evets]

Apple really can’t figure out what screen dimensions they want

The problem is that they aren't connecting to the consumers.

There are 3 different tiers of iPad "needers" in the world (might be more, but you can slim them down into these categories):

• Artists--they want real estate to do their stuff. 12.9" is just good enough, but it should be 14"+

• Document users--the 12.9" simulates legal-sized paper, so it is fine for compressing volumes of paperwork down into an identical size screen. Imagine carrying around large books of piano music, and now you can have 2000x that much in an iPad. Same for anyone that needs access to documents.

• Audience--they just need something they can watch porn on without schmertzen. 4" leaves something to be desired, 6" satisfies, but 9" is enticing. Anything over 9" gets painful.

 

[cambookpro]

Seems like Apple decided that the most important thing to copy from Android, is fragmentation.

Would rather have the same device size and Smart Keyboards, Smart Covers, etc. still work than arbitrarily keeping the screen size at 10.5". Most apps should be using Auto Layout anyway, new screen sizes really shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Baymowe335]

The problem is that they aren't connecting to the consumers.

There are 3 different tiers of iPad "needers" in the world (might be more, but you can slim them down into these categories):

• Artists--they want real estate to do their stuff. 12.9" is just good enough, but it should be 14"+

• Document users--the 12.9" simulates legal-sized paper, so it is fine for compressing volumes of paperwork down into an identical size screen. Imagine carrying around large books of piano music, and now you can have 2000x that much in an iPad. Same for anyone that needs access to documents.

• Audience--they just need something they can watch porn on without schmertzen. 4" leaves something to be desired, 6" satisfies, but 9" is enticing. Anything over 9" gets painful.

Apple has significantly more market research data for iPad models and all products than your total speculation nonsense.

 

[CarpalMac]

Seems like Apple decided that the most important thing to copy from Android, is fragmentation.

Well, at least this way fragmentation can become "magical", with Tim being super excited to tell us about it.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

Apple really can’t figure out what screen dimensions they want

Apple doesn't want uniform dimensions across generations of products; they want the screen to be slightly different (size, notch, bezels, whatever) so at a glance people can say "Oh, you got the new etc etc" or, and this is what Apple wants, "Oh, you've still got the etc etc (poor you)".

 

[jclardy]

My hope is the 11" gets the same size classes as the 12.5". That would be perfect and I would upgrade immediately from my 10.5".

Being able to run a full size app next to an iPhone size strip was the only thing I missed from my 12.5".

Really though, with how fast iPad's have become, they should allow display scaling like the Mac.

 

[magicschoolbus]

Where's my 21inch iPad?

 

[deanthedev]

Seems like Apple decided that the most important thing to copy from Android, is fragmentation.

Say what? A 0.5” possible size change is fragmentation? It’ll likely have the exact same resolution as the 10.5” version so no “fragmentation” at all.

7.0, 7.7, 8.0, 8.4, 8.9, 9.6, 9.7, 10.1, 10.5, 12.2 with resolutions of 1024x600, 1024x768, 1280x800, 1920x1200, 2160x1440 and 2560x1600. That’s what I’d call fragmentation. And that’s only one manufacturer.

 

[DNichter]

It looks like this may be the 10.5 but with a 11 screen after the home button is removed, i really think adding Face ID to the iPad is a great idea i love it on my iPhone X works brilliantly, one of my favourite Apple features. I also think it would be great to see Face ID appear on the Mac
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It will likely replace the 10.5" iPad Pro with no home button they can put 11" into the same frame and maybe reduce the bezels.

Definitely. I think it will be worth the upgrade.

 

[Kabeyun]

Before people complain about the lack of an SE update, see it as a chance for them to include an A11 later rather than an A10 now.

How about an A11 now?

 

[jcokacola]

i actually like the notch quite a bit on my iPhone X but i really think it would be horrible and a waste on the iPad. i like the idea of them reducing the bezels and keeping the screen the same. 3 sizes 9.7 - 10.5 - 12.9 are enough, more sizes are a pain for lazy developers. i love the idea of face id on the iPad but it should be able to recognize you no mater what way you pick up te iPad been vertically or horizontally

 

[RickInHouston]

"The first new models of the year will likely be the so-called iPhone X2, iPhone X2 Plus, and a 6.1-inch aluminum iPhone with Face ID in September."

iPhone X2? This would be pronounced iPhone 10 2. Who is the "genius" who came up with this idea?

Who actually calls the apple phone 'ex' the apple phone 'ten', anyway?

 

[barkomatic]

New hardware is obviously important, but I hope Apple starts focusing on improving Siri, the least useful of all assistants except maybe Bixby.

It would also be great if they could make iOS less boring without making it unstable at the same time.

 

[hajime]

Will the 12.9” become 13 something”?

 

[Dave245]

Definitely. I think it will be worth the upgrade.

I brought last years 12.9" iPad and if they release a 11" in the smaller frame of the 10.5" then i will buy one even after last years upgrade. If they do that tho i wonder if the 12.9" iPad Pro will get an even bigger screen?

 

[Scottsoapbox]

I bought my iPad PRO 12.9" yesterday. Now I can understand the need for a thinner bezel. When watching youtube movies on landscape model, even I expanded the view, I saw two different sets of black regions (one caused by the device and one caused by the movies). Kind of ugly.

There is this amazing technology for watching movies called a T.V. Really revolutionized my viewing experience.

 

[DNichter]

I brought last years 12.9" iPad and if they release a 11" in the smaller frame of the 10.5" then i will buy one even after last years upgrade. If they do that tho i wonder if the 12.9" iPad Pro will get an even bigger screen?

I was wondering the same thing. I can definitely see the appeal of the larger screened iPad, but it was just too heavy and bulky for me. I need it for desk use and the ability to walk around the office and collaborate with my team. I think 11 inches could be that sweet spot where I am not even sure they need the larger. Going to maybe 14 inches and introducing a 4 window multitasking mode could be sweet though.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

New hardware is obviously important, but I hope Apple starts focusing on improving Siri, the least useful of all assistants except maybe Bixby.

It would also be great if they could make iOS less boring without making it unstable at the same time.

That unfortunately can't happen; to introduce new features means it has to be publicly tested first which leads to unstable-ability in the short term.

Bixby though is weird, it's an assistant for your phone (Galaxy phone); not an assistant for everything or what ever eco-system you subscribe to.

 

[Paddle1]

Before people complain about the lack of an SE update, see it as a chance for them to include an A11 later rather than an A10 now.

The A11 is already about 6 months old. At this rate by the time they update the SE it'll be old news. I see no reason they can't put it in now in fact seeing as they did that with the A9.

 

[Bacillus]

Another size? Some apps have only just caught up with 10.5 (and maybe some not even that).

Ohh...incredible. 11” would be such an improvement over 10.5”.
So exciting, Tim

A11 is already about 6 months old. At this rate by the time they update the SE it'll be old news. I see no reason they can't put it in now in fact seeing as they did that with the A9.

Psshht...Phil is busy considering how to put the A11 in an existing enclosure.
Joni is considering a notch redesign (or not)
No time to excute...

 

[bodonnell202]

Apple hasn't fully refreshed the iPhone SE since it launched in March 2016, but it did double its available storage capacities to 64GB and 128GB last March. It also dropped the device's starting price to $349 last September.

MacRumors has included this statement in every article about the SE for the last while, and it is still incorrect. In March 2017 Apple doubled available storage capacities to 32GB and 128GB (from 16GB and 64GB).

 

[Dave245]

I was wondering the same thing. I can definitely see the appeal of the larger screened iPad, but it was just too heavy and bulky for me. I need it for desk use and the ability to walk around the office and collaborate with my team. I think 11 inches could be that sweet spot where I am not even sure they need the larger. Going to maybe 14 inches and introducing a 4 window multitasking mode could be sweet though.

I didn't think of that last bit that's a good point, if they make the 12.9" iPad Pro into a bigger display could they add things like more multitasking features, 3 or 4 window multitasking and or more split view tabs. If these are shown off at WWDC then they may demo such features in the new IOS.

Updated iPad Pro's with no home button and Face ID would remove a lot of the chin at the bottom and possibly up top of they slim down the bezels as well we could see a 13.5" - 14" iPad Pro. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with this. Face ID is brilliant and deserves to be on all IOS and Mac devices.

 

[WWPD]

They are using us as Guinness pigs to test for them.

I would love to be a Guinness pig!

 

[djlythium]

No 14 inch iPad Pro with slimmer bezel?

No 24” iPad Pro?! No!

Srsly, though, Apple: iPad Mini with Pencil support. Bring it.