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Now this is getting too much overboard 11 inches would be too much ! I hope and wish it is not true ! Thats nonsense !!
 
Because all iPads before that one just gave everyone ghosting text and headaches galore... The forums was just filled with millions of people with ghosting text and headaches galore.
No iPad has ever had an OLED screen, so no iPad has ever had PWM dimming which causes headaches for many people. A separate but related issue is that the current iPad has a 120hz display with ProMotion that makes everything smooth as butter. This is impossible on an OLED.
 
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Another size? Some apps have only just caught up with 10.5 (and maybe some not even that).
It's probably just a translation error. Or rounding up. Like when the Chinese translation for the iPhone 6 Plus was "iPhone 6 Math".

Apple just introduced the 10.5. I doubt they'll just dump it so soon. Unless the 11 Inch will be "the future of iPads" and have an all new design/screen like the iPhone X did.
 
I have heard this, but I never put my hands on the bezels currently. I typically have it on my desk with the ASK or I am sitting on my couch or a chair with my fingers on the back and using my thumbs to tap. My palms rest against the sides. I don't see no bezels as an issue in use.
Agree. Not sure who grips their iPad on the sides. Of course, you can't really go by me because I can hold my 10.5 inch Pro with 1 hand (like holding a phone from the back).
 
Why? If they can fit a bigger screen in the same device size I'm all for it!
Some apps (facebook) are not even updated for the 10.5 and probably never will be. So introducing another screen size so soon seems nuts. Hell , there are tons of apps that dont even support split screen still.
 
It looks like this may be the 10.5 but with a 11 screen after the home button is removed, i really think adding Face ID to the iPad is a great idea i love it on my iPhone X works brilliantly, one of my favourite Apple features. I also think it would be great to see Face ID appear on the Mac :)
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It will likely replace the 10.5" iPad Pro with no home button they can put 11" into the same frame and maybe reduce the bezels.

Yeah, but i am worried about side bezels, they are already thin on the 10.5
I am worried because i was hoping to keep my 10.5 inch smart keyboard and that it will still fit. Don’ t want to get another new one.
 
Yeah, but i am worried about side bezels, they are already thin on the 10.5
I am worried because i was hoping to keep my 10.5 inch smart keyboard and that it will still fit. Don’ t want to get another new one.

If they keep the overall device the same size but just take out the home button and so on you will be able to keep that keyboard.
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That would make sense, but Apple seem to have lost the ability to introduce a new form factor without increasing the price somewhere along the line, and I don't see further iPad price rises flying so they will presumably want to keep a less expensive pro model around (this could well exceed the price fo the 12.9 even if it isn't oled)

Yea but they can tell people that there is a less expensive iPad called iPad, the pro will probably get a price increase but not as much as if they had put an OLED screen in it. Just my guess.
 
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It's probably just a translation error. Or rounding up. Like when the Chinese translation for the iPhone 6 Plus was "iPhone 6 Math".

Apple just introduced the 10.5. I doubt they'll just dump it so soon. Unless the 11 Inch will be "the future of iPads" and have an all new design/screen like the iPhone X did.
Haven’t you seen the rumors? It’s mentioned right here in this article too. This IS the “future of iPads” with a new X design.

The screen size isn’t really important chassis size is. So if Apple can keep the same physical dimensions of the 10.5, remove home button, reduce beZel to give us a 11 (I say closer to 11.3), why not?

Been calling it for a while actually. 11.3 is close to the old 11” MBA and hits the sweet spot. I found the 12.9 great for laptop work but too unwieldy in tablet mode. The 10.5 was a great tablet , just a bit too small for “work”.

11 to 11.3 sounds perfect. Now if they can bump up the resolution so it can also run two full screen apps like the 12.9 that’s just bonus!
 
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If they keep the overall device the same size but just take out the home button and so on you will be able to keep that keyboard.
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Yea but they can tell people that there is a less expensive iPad called iPad, the pro will probably get a price increase but not as much as if they had put an OLED screen in it. Just my guess.
The thing is though, iPad pros are already testing MacBook pricing by the time you add in a keyboard - indeed if you go with the 256 models, you're just about there at MacBook pricing with the 12.9. If they go higher the value proposition over just getting an ultrabook begins to rapidly evaporate. And that's not even taking other manufacturer's offerings into account (surface pro; the many convertibles out there). Obviously by this pricing point that's what they're competing against - people who want 'just an iPad' will have lost interest beyond the £500 price point...
 
The thing is though, iPad pros are already testing MacBook pricing by the time you add in a keyboard - indeed if you go with the 256 models, you're just about there at MacBook pricing with the 12.9. If they go higher the value proposition over just getting an ultrabook begins to rapidly evaporate. And that's not even taking other manufacturer's offerings into account (surface pro; the many convertibles out there). Obviously by this pricing point that's what they're competing against - people who want 'just an iPad' will have lost interest beyond the £500 price point...

People who just want the iPad can buy the iPad which starts at £339 and is rumoured to get a cheaper still pricing when it’s updated (rumours of which are saying this month) the iPad Pro does start at a much higher price point and I’m not sure what Apple will do with this new version that has Face ID and so on, I just don’t see them keeping the 10.5” around while also adding s 11” version and an updated 12.9” I think they will either replace the 10.5” with the 11” or remove the 12.9” and keep just the 11” since it’s somewhere in between.
 
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It looks like this may be the 10.5 but with a 11 screen after the home button is removed, i really think adding Face ID to the iPad is a great idea i love it on my iPhone X works brilliantly, one of my favourite Apple features. I also think it would be great to see Face ID appear on the Mac :)
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Come on, you know Apple...they will make the dimensions different so you have to buy new cases/sleeves etc...

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What they need to do with this “modern iPad” is also make a bloody modern Smart Keyboard that’s , actually, SMART! Backlighting would be a nice start. More travel. A top row of iPad specific function keys. Heck make two versions. Keep the current one and have bragging rights for slimmest lightest etc but also make a proper heavy duty keyboard for the rest of us. Maybe even throw extra battery capacity into the base.

If not I’ll go with the Brydge pro or Zagg slimbook because in many hands on tests the current Smart Keyboard is simply unusable (for me)
 
People who just want the iPad can buy the iPad which starts at £339 and is rumoured to get a cheaper still pricing when it’s updated (rumours of which are saying this month) the iPad Pro does start at a much higher price point and I’m not sure what Apple will do with this new version that has Face ID and so on, I just don’t see them keeping the 10.5” around while also adding s 11” version and an updated 12.9” I think they will either replace the 10.5” with the 11” or remove the 12.9” and keep just the 11” since it’s somewhere in between.
You could have said the same about the iPhone 8 and iPhone X. I just feel they will treat this as a new premium model (as they often do with form factor changes now, not just the iPhone X, but with the new MacBooks too) and it will be priced above the 12.9 while those models remain available a la the iPhone 8 series.
 
Haven’t you seen the rumors? It’s mentioned right here in this article too. This IS the “future of iPads” with a new X design.

The screen size isn’t really important chassis size is. So if Apple can keep the same physical dimensions of the 10.5, remove home button, reduce beZel to give us a 11 (I say closer to 11.3), why not?

Been calling it for a while actually. 11.3 is close to the old 11” MBA and hits the sweet spot. I found the 12.9 great for laptop work but too unwieldy in tablet mode. The 10.5 was a great tablet , just a bit too small for “work”.

11 to 11.3 sounds perfect. Now if they can bump up the resolution so it can also run two full screen apps like the 12.9 that’s just bonus!

They just upped the screen size last year and apps had to update some elements since they became slightly blurred when scaled to the new screen. Not all apps are fully using apples adaptive resolution independent APIs. Perfect example is the keyboard. Many apps like HBO Go, Netflix, Facebook were still using the old 9.7 inch sized keyboard when the 10.5 came out and had to update since all it was was a scaled up , blurry 9.7 keyboard. Upping the screen size again will cause similar issues. Which is fine. I just don't see it happening so soon after the screen size was increased.
 
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I hope Apple got FaceID to work when using the iPad Pro in portrait mode, or else it would really be worthless. They can get away with it on an iPhone, but certainly not an iPad.

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I will wait till March 31st. If there is no March event, no SE2, I am gonna buy the current SE and it will be the last iPhone I ever bought.

Kook will finally fakk Apple up.
 
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They just upped the screen size last year and apps had to update some elements since they became slightly blurred when scaled to the new screen. Not all apps are fully using apples adaptive resolution independent APIs. Perfect example is the keyboard. Many apps like HBO Go, Netflix, Facebook were still using the old 9.7 inch sized keyboard when the 10.5 came out and had to update since all it was was a scaled up , blurry 9.7 keyboard. Upping the screen size again will cause similar issues. Which is fine. I just don't see it happening so soon after the screen size was increased.

My bad. Didn’t even think about apps and scaling. You’re right. I was focused on chassis size and external keyboard accessories.
 
Oh yes, this is essentially what I wanted! I was thinking 11.5" but this would do. I'm hoping we can get the 12.9" UI scale in this device. Let's do some math:

12.9" resolution: 2732 x 2048
@3X retina: 4098 x 3072

What I'm hoping for:
~11.2" iPad Pro "4K" at 4098 x 3072: 458 PPI

iPhone X PPI: 458 PPI (Apple sometimes likes to keep PPIs across devices, especially if this thing ends up with an OLED, but in all likelihood I don't see that happening until the generation after this new one)

iPad Pro 10.5" physical dimensions: 9.8" x 6.8" = ~11.9" diagonal to work with and contain ~11.2" display

iPad Pro 10.5" display dimensions: 8.4 x 6.3 = 10.5" diagonal

iPad Pro "4K" 11.2" display dimensions: ~9 x ~6.7 = ~11.2" diagonal

Top and bottom bezel: 0.4" (enough to contain Face ID sensors, camera, etc)

Side bezels: 0.05" (basically none, though I've been rounding some, so it might be up to 0.1", it's all hypothetical anyway, or maybe they'll make it just slightly wider like the iPhone X and so that people have to rebuy accessories).



Alternatively, they could "upgrade" the 10.5" to 2732 x 2048 and the ~326 PPI would be the same as the iPhone 8.

Another option is to scale up the 10.5" resolution by roughly the increase in size to 11" to maintain PPI and then take that @3X gives you nearly the same 401 PPI as the iPhone 8 Plus.



Anyone else come up with something better?
 
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