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Sure, and Apple never copied Android ever. Android had live photos years before iPhone, same with always on display, copy and paste, shortcuts, multiple cameras, HDR photos and video, control center, notification panel, etc etc. Most of what we take for granted on iOS was done by Android first, usually years in advance.
Yet often not done very well. Mostly just a spec tick list.
 
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I don't think a camera button is new to the iPhone only. I owned a Sony phone with one, for example. But yeah, seeing that Apple added one, I guess many companies will do the same, which is a good thing, since I like that feature.
 
American companies continue to invest in China but get ripped up the **** with their IP's. Meanwhile, any company does that here in America, including Chinese companies, the copied company is defended and allow to sue. Amazing
 
Sure, and Apple never copied Android ever. Android had live photos years before iPhone, same with always on display, copy and paste, shortcuts, multiple cameras, HDR photos and video, control center, notification panel, etc etc. Most of what we take for granted on iOS was done by Android first, usually years in advance.
Oppo is chinese phonetic for Apple, so at least initially they were on a mission. Android flagships are more advanced but mostly copy Apple style. Also, Apple has mnemomegalophobia, the fear of using too much RAM.
 
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Another pointless argument that has nothing to do with what I said. Have I ever said that I can or want to design a better phone? No.
What I said is that by looking at other companies, the technology has matured enough that they would be able to put larger batteries while being safe for customers. That would benefit customers that don't want to use phones with 6.9" displays but of course won't benefit companies.
No one's asking them to put 7000 mah battery in 6.3" phone but even Google was able to put larger battery in Pixel 9 Pro and make the phone's battery life comparable to Pixel 9 Pro Max or whatever it's called
It’s not an argument at all. You’re saying something can be done so I was saying if you have a method to do this or know of a method then do it. This is how things get improved.
 
I like the new camera button. The difference isn’t that there is a button, but what that button and slider can do. It works very well.

Also the change from an iPhone 13 Pro to iPhone 16 Pro is much more than I thought. I love the Dynamic Island as well. And the camera is better in many ways. The speakers are at a different level. To me it’s a great upgrade.
May I ask you to expound on the button? I had planned on upgrading from a 13 pro to the 16 pro, but I've heard nothing but bad things about the camera button, not in theory, but in the execution.
 
Hint to online wannabes: Everyone (including Apple) have been copying the first iPhone released in 2007.
 
May I ask you to expound on the button? I had planned on upgrading from a 13 pro to the 16 pro, but I've heard nothing but bad things about the camera button, not in theory, but in the execution.
Not sure what further to say. It’s in the right location. It works. Saves an extra click on the screen. And super easy to use the functions as it’s like a function wheel like I used to have on my Nikon and Fuji cameras but without it actually being a wheel. I love how it give like a haptic feedback at for example the zoom level preset that matches the lense capabilities.
 
Sony and Samsung already had an extra button years ago. But Samsung used it for bixy (their smart assistant) then got rid of it. Samsung now uses double click power button to bring up their camera.
It's not the same.

1. Sony was not the first to introduce a camera shutter, it was a Samsung Flip dumbphone, then, years later Nokia used to include it (N94, N8, etc).
2. While the Camera Control is a button and whether people like it or not, it's an innovative button, the implementation sucks but it cannot be compared against a single button that can just be pressed.
3. The Samsung Bixby button had a completely different purpose and doesn't pack any of the features of the Camera Control.

Probably, Vivo is just doing this.
 
Putting gimmick-like features aside, let's talk about spec-based features like 4K video recording at 120 frames per second:

Why must they wait for Apple to do it first?

At best, even if it's just pure coincidence, so many chinese smartphone manufacturers choosing to include similar spec bumps after the iPhone 16's release simply paints them in a bad light.
I do not believe it's the same.

Apple's implementation relies on the faster data transfer capabilities of the sensor, hence the 4K@120fps look amazing because it is real 120fps.

Androids like the S24 Ultra already did 4K@120FPS by using interpolation of AI-generated frames that create artifacts and degrade quality.
 


OPPO's upcoming Find X8 series will include a pressure-sensitive camera shutter button that resembles Apple's new Camera Control feature introduced with the iPhone 16.

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The iPhone 16's Camera Control is a pressure-sensitive button allows users to interact with the camera in ways that were previously only possible with on-screen gestures and can perform functions such as launching the camera, taking pictures, switching between cameras, and zooming in. Chinese smartphone maker OPPO recently confirmed that its upcoming Find X8 series will feature a similar camera shutter button (via Android Authority).

OPPO's product manager, Zhou Yibao, revealed on the Chinese social media platform Weibo that the Find X8 series will include a pressure-sensitive button designed to streamline camera controls. According to Zhou, the button will allow users to quickly launch the camera app with a double-tap and swipe to zoom, with clear parallels to Apple's implementation. Zhou also pointed out that the camera button on OPPO's device has been specifically designed for underwater use.



Vivo's recently launched X200 series also exhibits similarities to the iPhone, boasting 4K video recording at 120 frames per second and cinematic slow-motion video capture—features that align closely with those recently introduced in Apple's iPhone 16 Pro models. The X200 also supports Live Photos that are compatible with the iPhone.

Vivo's X200 series also introduces "Origin Island," a dynamic interface feature that bears a striking resemblance to Apple's "Dynamic Island" on the iPhone. Much like Apple’s implementation, Origin Island provides real-time notifications, multitasking capabilities, and cross-app operations within a single interactive space.


Article Link: Chinese Smartphone Brands Rush to Copy iPhone 16 With Camera Button, 'Origin Island,' Live Photos, and More
For those who say that Sony had a shutting button first...

And even Nokia wasn't the first, it was Samsung.
 

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Not surprised. Even when/if Apple isn't the first to do something they usually do it better and when Apple does it the feature becomes mainstream. Apple Pay anyone?
 
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East Asia has always been champion at copying the West. Have you seen Samsung's latest Galaxy Buds 3 ?
That’s okay. For the most part copies cater to a market that can’t afford the real thing. It’s not real competition If someone buys a fake iPhone I’m sure one day they hope to afford the real one.
 
May I ask you to expound on the button? I had planned on upgrading from a 13 pro to the 16 pro, but I've heard nothing but bad things about the camera button, not in theory, but in the execution.
I’ve got a 13 for personal and a 16 for work. Just wait. Please don’t do something crazy and just hold the line (and your wallet)
 
Maybe try being less bigoted next time.
It’s being factual. You can be against negative stereotypes and still believe China is a culture of slavish copy theft. It’s why many engineering firms design “flaws” into their products to catch out the shameless copies that get assembled wrong and go boom. Lets not get up on high horses and pretend China isn’t well known for copy theft -that’s both ridiculous and unsupported by the evidence
 
I’ve got a 13 for personal and a 16 for work. Just wait. Please don’t do something crazy and just hold the line (and your wallet)
Honestly, just waiting to see how Apple Intelligence shakes out. 3 years is my normal upgrade cycle honestly. I could go another year if needed, the 13 is more than adequate. But the money doesn't bother me and 3 or 4 years seems reasonable.
 
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