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Civilization V Coming to Mac Very Soon
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You don't think it's fair? Last I checked no one is forcing anyone to buy these machines. If it meets their needs and requirements they will purchase them. If it doesn't they won't.
From the sounds of things you are just trying to justify your purchase of that ASUS by coming on a forum about Macs to claim that the MacBook Pro isn't reliable after 100% usage when it's clear you have no personal experience with the matter at hand. You can enjoy your Dell Mini and Asus and people can enjoy their MacBook Pro's/iMacs or whatever else they choose to buy because clearly if they bought it, it should meet their needs.
I don't know about you, but I kinda like my MBP's excellent battery life.
If I want bleeding edge performance I'll use a desktop. A 6 core processor won't give you muchif anyextra performance for gaming. And what is a 'solidstate 120 GB HDD'?
This is an assumption, but I think this may be the case since the current Civ V game is steamworks game, meaning you NEED steam to play it. I mean they could release a standalone mac version, but steamplay would be the best bet for me too. Steam + being able to play it on Windows and max osx.
*edit* oh I just read above me, that aspyr is doing this port... interesting.. but didn't they do Civ IV's port which is currently a steamplay game? I really don't believe Valve is "porting" all the steamplay games but rather making a deal with them..
Apple doesn't make gaming laptops, they are not in the gaming market
Apple makes general use multimedia laptops, and to that effect, no one does it better. Macbook pros receive "Best of" category awards all the time.
i ment to run it on OSX, if your running it on a Win7 it will work fine, i was also mentioning that alot of people still use the Macs with ati cards like the 2400hd, etc it will not run at all at any kind of decent settings
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you bolded solidstate HDD, so its wrong to use one? please elaborate? Civ5 is a pretty big game, you need 8GB of space, if a map and all the textures, etc is 1GB an SSD will load that in 3.5 seconds, a regular drive will load that in 20-30+ seconds depending on fragmentation, if the drive has NCQ, and some other factors, thats a big difference
well, needs would be, good encoding perf, fast HDD, OSX (if they are using finalcutpro) your options are pretty limited when it comes to apple. im saying its not fair becuase apple advertised "high performance, workhorse etc" on their website,
my friend went out and bought one thinking it was also the fastest vista machine (an ad that apple had on their site) and now hes stuck with a MBP thats not 100% reliable and will overheat and shut down if left encoding without a cooler, basically he got ripped off $2600ish dollars.
and you are right, i dont have FIRST hand exp with a mbp dying because i wouldnt be stupid enough to spend $2K+ on something that is slower than some $800 laptops. how ever i have to deal with them from time to time (IE: dead HDDs in MB/MBps, ram upgrades, os upgrades etc)
however if you are offended by the signature ill just remove it, i only put it on because someone asked and that seems to be the trend on this site (also i guess to help troubleshoot in the product specific threads where there are problems
This announcement is fantastic. I'm very close to my first Mac purchase (just waiting on the new Pros) and not being able to play Civ 5 was actually the only drawback I could see in 'making the switch' (Not paying $200 for Windows7 just for one game).
My question: How mod-friendly will the Mac version be? Will all the mods that are made for the PC work on the Mac version?
My question: How mod-friendly will the Mac version be? Will all the mods that are made for the PC work on the Mac version?
The only reason that Civ IV is a SteamPlay game is that 2K has the digital distribution rights for the Mac version. It's a special case, and no other Aspyr game is available on Steam. I suppose it could happen again for Civ V, though.
But yes, the game uses Steamworks, so it will require Steam one way or another. If I had to guess, it will work like Supreme Commander 2: you buy the Mac version separately (not on Steam), and enter a code into Steam to activate it. In SupCom2's case, this also gave you a copy of the PC version.
I don't know about you, but I kinda like my MBP's excellent battery life.
A 6 core processor won't give you muchif anyextra performance for gaming. And what is a 'solidstate 120 GB HDD'?
sorry it was a copy and paste of a website pricing spreadsheet, i guess thats what happens when you leave technical details up to purchasers
now that i think about it maybe the description is for one of those Hybrid SSD/HDD drives from seagate, i guess ill look again
also in new games everything is multithreaded, six cores WILL help, but only if the game supports it, source engine based games also can do multi core rendering optimizations
The single greatest game of all time, though there are some desperately needed features, some used to be there.
Pollution, climate change, and the old culture wars make the game more realistic.
There should be greater differences that result from civic decisions.
Pollution, climate change, and the old culture wars make the game more realistic.
There should be greater differences that result from civic decisions.
You may get a PC that can play the game at 2560x1600 for ~$1000, but what's the use in that if you don't actually have a 2560x1600 monitor?
The monitor alone is going to run you upwards of $1000, doubling your "OMG PCZ R00L DUDEZ!" price.
In any case, the top-o-the-line 6 core AMD CPU gets trounced by the Intel Core i5-750.
I just put together a PC w/ SLI GTX 460's from Zotac to run through the DisplayPort In on my 27" iMac. Best of both worlds
FYI, the Windows version runs nicely with Parallels. I've been running it in windowed mode for about a week.
So if the Mac port isn't compatible with SteamPlay, at least Parallels users could run the Windows version to play online....assuming of course that one purchase provides both platforms.
So if the Mac port isn't compatible with SteamPlay, at least Parallels users could run the Windows version to play online....assuming of course that one purchase provides both platforms.
There's no such thing as a solid state hard disk drive. You might want to do some research.
Fast HDD? If you want a 7200 rpm HDD for your MacBook Pro you can get one. If you want a SSD for your MacBook Pro you can get one and pop it right in. If you really need that much horsepower than the top of the line quad core iMac will slay anything you throw at it. Apple isn't false advertising. They say clear as day on the front page of the MacBook Pro that they are using the fastest dual core processors available and they are.
He got ripped off because he bought a machine that was claimed by PCWorld to be the fastest Vista machine? http://www.pcworld.com/article/136649/in_pictures_the_most_notable_notebooks_of_2007.html
I still don't believe that your supposed friend has his MacBook Pro shut down by itself unless the guy lives in some place where it's 90 degress all the time. The gen 1 MacBook Pro(these things were notorious for getting too hot, being the first Intel laptop Apple shipped) I had used to get to 210 degrees fahrenheit and I never ONCE had it shut off after hours of encoding. If your friend has that big of an issue with his MacBook Pro than it is likely the 8600m from NVIDIA that has been known for being a problem. Tell your friend to do some research on that and or take it into the Apple store if it's that big of an issue for him.
Hilarious. Dead HDD's? Blame Seagate or the HDD manufacturer. RAM upgrades? What about them? OS upgrades? What about them?
Right, I'm somehow offended by your signature because I told you to enjoy your machines while people enjoy their machines. Get real buddy.
Apple doesn't make gaming laptops, they are not in the gaming market
Apple makes general use multimedia laptops, and to that effect, no one does it better. Macbook pros receive "Best of" category awards all the time.
im not asking them too, they advertise (this is straight from their website)
Intensive 3d games - BS, you'll barely be able to play games at native resolution
intensive pro applications - im assuming they mean programs that render and encode with the help of your video card, sorry but a base level video card aint gonna cut it
"blazing fast discrete nvidia geforce..." - this card is not blazing fast in anyway
its number 67 FFS on this benchmark list
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
the MBP also costs more than almost all other laptops in that list
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Absolutely fan-fuching-tasctic!
I love Civ V and welcome playing it on my iMac without having to boot into windows.
You can't believe how happy this makes me!
Absolutely fan-fuching-tasctic!
I love Civ V and welcome playing it on my iMac without having to boot into windows.
You can't believe how happy this makes me!
I stand by my earlier statement. My PC plays Dragon Age _just fine_. As well as many other more graphically impressive than Civ5 games. Civ5 kills it. There's bugs all over. The menus have graphics distortion.. Consistent, always the same. A reinstall (of WinXP) didn't help.
I'm not saying a $1000 PC wouldn't run it well, but I am saying that this game performs like crap on many PC's that _should_ run it well. Let alone Macs. And we can't really talk about its Mac performance yet, because it's not out.
I don't think a law says that if it's on Steam, it HAS to be given away for free to people who bought the PC version. Valve said it would do that for its games, but I'm pretty sure that's up to the developer. Firaxis owns the rights, so it's up to Firaxis and whatever terms it laid out to Aspyr.
i thought maybe the pricing spreadsheet ment Hybrid at first but it was actually just a type-o, and yes there are solidstate hard drives, they are both flash and magnetic
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/laptops/laptop-hdd
the smallest size is 250GB so the 120GB could not possibly be one of those.
again, just a type-o
well the MBP already costs alot of money, how much MORE money do you want to spend? cost is usually the determining factor
yes PC world is full of idiots, but apple used their results on their front page when the results were published. mistakes were made by both apple and PC world
cpu's will auto shut off the computer when they reach their TJ max
HEAT kills computers, the MBP always ran nearly too hot to touch everytime the cpu would go to 100%, its a design flaw of almost all apple portables and SFF (see the time machines recall pages on MR, TM's are usually always hot, and HDD's life spans are shortened considerably by that)
well with all the mix feelings around here i wouldnt doubt it
Honestly though.. The MBP's play 98% of all the games out on the market just fine. Especially compared to the MB. Since my 4 year old MBP can play Civ5 (slight better than my more powerful desktop, for bizarre driver reasons), I can only imagine that a current MBP would play it even more nicely.
Maybe neither can play the new Medal of Honor at the highest settings, but get a grip. Just turn them down a bit. It's not like you buy a MBP and can't play jack. You can play pretty much everything just fine, even 3D "intensive" games. Just not at the highest detail settings.
There isn't a Mac game with a Windows counterpart on steam that doesn't have Steamplay (in fact, all Mac games on Steam right now feature it). In SupCom2's case, it makes no sense that you can't buy the Mac version on Steam, unless they were unable to make the game non-SteamPlay.
I do believe you can buy almost all mac games on steam. where as you buy it once and you get in for both platforms.
anyways I bought several copies of this game on steam a little bit ago, but it will be nicer now, that we wont have to bootcamp all of our macs before we can start our lan party
I am sure it will run as well as SC2 which runs great @ high settings. I did however buy Win 7 just for Civ 5 so it pisses me off since originally it was list as a 'someday' thing. Obviously they were just hoping for a buy spike on release by keeping this in their pockets. I won't be paying again, if that is what they are thinking.
