Sure, but so what? They could release "Civ 5 for Windows" and "Civ 5 for Mac", and just tell people "sorry, due to rights issues, it's not Steamplay". It could totally be standalone too, I'm not saying that's impossible. I'm just saying it being on Steam is not out of the question. I don't think the existence of Steamplay amounts to any kind of "proof" for or against.
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Sure, but so what? They could release "Civ 5 for Windows" and "Civ 5 for Mac", and just tell people "sorry, due to rights issues, it's not Steamplay". It could totally be standalone too, I'm not saying that's impossible. I'm just saying it being on Steam is not out of the question. I don't think the existence of Steamplay amounts to any kind of "proof" for or against.
yes, but this is a mid-tower desktop computer. apple doesn't make those. apple makes the imac and the mac mini using laptop grade parts.
then the mac pro which uses server grade parts.
So you cant be comparing a desktop mid-tower to the imac and mac mini, on a price to performance ratio
Whatever.
Pathetic excuse, the HDD and SSD prices are the same for both Macs and PC's, whether you are willing to spend the money or not shouldn't be an issue. If you need an SSD that bad you will buy one and be done with it.
Apple is allowed to publish any reviews of their products that they like on their home page. I'm sure if PC World was tooting the horn of your favorite manufacturer you wouldn't be calling them idiots. A review is a review and they reviewed multiple laptops that year and called the MacBook Pro the fastest. Whatever you say is void, clearly they did the research and you haven't.
Lol, TJ Max. That was my point, my computer used to get notoriously hot and never ONCE shut itself off.
Again, I'll use my personal experience. That same MacBook Pro I had that got to 210 degrees regularly is still kicking to this day with the same original 100GB HDD it came with. HDD's can crap out at any given moment. That new ASUS of yours? The HDD could take a **** on you a month from now. That's how unpredictable they are.
Get over yourself dude.
He's right about this
I spent $3500 on a new 17" MacBook Pro 2.93 Ghz Unibody. When you would turn on the 9600 GT nVidia card, after 5 minutes it would get so hot, my temp gauge would go up to 190 degrees, sometimes over 200 and SHUT THE SYSTEM DOWN. I couldn't play a game (Civ IV) or send out AE or Final Cut projects without having a serious cooler. I took it to Apple, and they said there was nothing wrong with my machine as it was within specs. How can a machine that gets so hot it can cause burn marks on your open skin be within f&*#$!g specs?!
I checked online, and there were quite a few people who had this issue and we were at a loss. We just dropped almost $4k after taxes on the TOP OF THE LINE MACBOOK PRO and Apple took a huge crap on our faces with the heating problem, as we need to do our editing work on these machines. Apple does this a lot, not recognizing their problems and rarely fixing them, always blaming a 3rd party for their problems.
So, I sold my laptop for a loss and purchased what will be my last Mac product due to this experience, a used Mac Pro for editing this next documentary, and saying goodbye to Apple. I can't wait.
I spent $3500 on a new 17" MacBook Pro 2.93 Ghz Unibody. When you would turn on the 9600 GT nVidia card, after 5 minutes it would get so hot, my temp gauge would go up to 190 degrees, sometimes over 200 and SHUT THE SYSTEM DOWN. I couldn't play a game (Civ IV) or send out AE or Final Cut projects without having a serious cooler. I took it to Apple, and they said there was nothing wrong with my machine as it was within specs. How can a machine that gets so hot it can cause burn marks on your open skin be within f&*#$!g specs?!
I checked online, and there were quite a few people who had this issue and we were at a loss. We just dropped almost $4k after taxes on the TOP OF THE LINE MACBOOK PRO and Apple took a huge crap on our faces with the heating problem, as we need to do our editing work on these machines. Apple does this a lot, not recognizing their problems and rarely fixing them, always blaming a 3rd party for their problems.
So, I sold my laptop for a loss and purchased what will be my last Mac product due to this experience, a used Mac Pro for editing this next documentary, and saying goodbye to Apple. I can't wait.
Which part of "multimedia" do you not understand?
While games are part of multimedia, Apple makes no claims of the MBP being a gaming laptop or aimed at the gaming market, because...it isn't! Can it play games? Of course it can.
Ah the price war. Processor/video/memory specs do not equal the full product. You'll find that MBP equivalent windows based PC laptops (high end) cost about as much as a MBP, or in the case of the Sony Signature Series, even more. Sony and HP's Envy are nice, but you're still stuck with the POS windows OS. If you want a gaming rig, build your own or buy an Alienware. Asus is low end crap (my friend has had plenty over the years).
I don't think any company bends over backwards to admit their machines are defective and replace them at high cost. Good luck with whoever you use next. It looks like you used Apple for some time with no issues, hope you have at least that much luck with the next company.
Been watching PC gamers and their let's play videos on You Tube, they had all played about 100 to 150 turns and then they've disappeared so no idea what happens after the modern era starts. Can't wait to play myself on my mac... Hoping my PC days are gone for good...
so why would you buy a mac pro, after you decided you no longer like apple computers
The way SupCom2 is handled, the only other Mac game that uses Steamworks, would suggest that it'll be standalone. But we'll see.
I think Valve would prefer to keep Mac versions of games all Steamplay for the sake of simplicity. When Civ IV came out on Steam for Mac it was a big mess because initially it was only SteamPlay for those who bought it after the Mac release.
How would thanksgiving dinner wipe the floor with civilization 5? It doesn't even have arms!!
this is a direct quote from apple.ca in the features tab under MBP
it says right there, graphics intensive 3d games and PRO applications
LOL Asus being low end, hilarious, i guess MBP's are low end crap too, Asus used to make Macbook pros!, they also used make the mother boards in Mac Pros (dont know about now)
yes Asus is crap, thats why they have the highest reliability in laptops, Asus currently makes the higher end sony laptops which is why sony is also near the top. (if you doubt that chart i just posted, keep in mind that chart is Squaretrade's statistics, they are the largest warranty provider globally so i think they have pretty good numbers to back them up)
http://www.businessweek.com/it100/2005/company/ASUS.htm
if windows was such a POS, all major companies would have collapsed by now, every client ive been too has a microsoft based infrastructure, they all run exchange, sharpoint, and office
personally i have had no issues at all, i never shut my windows machine down, only suspend. i guess it depends on your technical skill to maintain a computer (similar to a vehicle, you dont maintain it, it will blow up in your face)
EDIT: found this link too even though its older it still holds merit
http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-Intel-Mac-Laptops-Will-Be-ODM-By-Quanta-and-Asustek-15586.shtml
Guess who dell and hp get their laptops manufactured by? you got it, Quanta, they make 1 out of 3 laptops you see at the store.
apple if you haven't clued in yet, makes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, they write the software, but make no hardware at all.
There is no such thing as a Solid State HDD, Solid State Drives and Hard Disc Drives are very different, also in the comparison you forgot the fact that the iMac has a $1000 monitor built in
It does play "Intensive 3d games" on low-medium settings
#67?
eliminate the dual GPU cards and now it is #53
everything in front of the 330M either came out too later or sucks to much power
Intel and then Foxconn made MP Logicboardsthis is a direct quote from apple.ca in the features tab under MBP
it says right there, graphics intensive 3d games and PRO applications
LOL Asus being low end, hilarious, i guess MBP's are low end crap too, Asus used to make Macbook pros!, they also used make the mother boards in Mac Pros (dont know about now)
yes Asus is crap, thats why they have the highest reliability in laptops, Asus currently makes the higher end sony laptops which is why sony is also near the top. (if you doubt that chart i just posted, keep in mind that chart is Squaretrade's statistics, they are the largest warranty provider globally so i think they have pretty good numbers to back them up)
http://www.businessweek.com/it100/2005/company/ASUS.htm
if windows was such a POS, all major companies would have collapsed by now, every client ive been too has a microsoft based infrastructure, they all run exchange, sharpoint, and office
personally i have had no issues at all, i never shut my windows machine down, only suspend. i guess it depends on your technical skill to maintain a computer (similar to a vehicle, you dont maintain it, it will blow up in your face)
EDIT: found this link too even though its older it still holds merit
http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-Intel-Mac-Laptops-Will-Be-ODM-By-Quanta-and-Asustek-15586.shtml
Guess who dell and hp get their laptops manufactured by? you got it, Quanta, they make 1 out of 3 laptops you see at the store.
apple if you haven't clued in yet, makes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, they write the software, but make no hardware at all.
Foxconn also makes the MBPs
already stated it was a type-o, also stated there are SSD/HDDs, they are hybrids that have both flash and magnetic platters,
yes a $2500+ laptop that can only run 3D intensive applications (not just games) on low settings, what a great way to throw away money
yes just eliminate everything so the MBP looks the best, doesnt matter if other cards are faster or newer tech
yes i know, but i said "Used to make" indicated they made a previous gen of MBP/MP/etc
Did you bother reading his reply? Did you happen to skip over the part where he says he needs it for an upcoming project?
More than likely it's a tight schedule and transitioning now isn't an option.
I just called 2K to ask if I would have to rebuy if I buy it for PC now. The rep told me that I would indeed have to repurchase the game to get a Mac copy.
For anyone who wants to call, use this number for the US 1 (866) 219-9839. Although.. I talked to someone in Britain.
I also wonder.. Since the game's engine is DirectX only, are they doing a true port or will we be purchasing a WINE wrapped game?
For anyone who wants to call, use this number for the US 1 (866) 219-9839. Although.. I talked to someone in Britain.
I also wonder.. Since the game's engine is DirectX only, are they doing a true port or will we be purchasing a WINE wrapped game?
