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Claimed iPhone 12 Box Insert Design Suggests No Included EarPods or Power Adapter

Ever since the bigger iPhones with bigger batteries shipped with the little (barely sufficient) 5 watt charger, people and vloggers have been whining "no fast charger included?".
Well it looks like Apple listened and said EF You to us all and now will ship with NO CHARGER.

Be careful what you complain about. Future iPhones might not come with the OS installed or a power cord included.
 
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Wiesenlooser said:
That's great - nickel and dime you for a $1000 phone.

And before fanboys complain about this being an eco-friendly move: Why don't they first design cables and headphones that last longer than a couple of months (and don't say they last for me - search it, it is a well known problem that both the earpods as well as charging cables keep breaking)
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Sorry, but they last for me. I’ve had iPhones since 2007 and my wife has had them since 2012, And we’ve had iPads since 2011, and in all that time, the only accessory that’s ever gone bad is one frayed charging cable, which was many years old by that time.
 
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benshive said:
... this is going to probably save Apple a ton of money.
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Probably -- but not just in terms of the power adapters; also in terms of shipping. I would estimate that they could handily get the box down to about half the size of older iPhone boxes containing power adapters and earbuds, which doubles the number of iPhones that will fit in a shipping container. It seems to me, that factor alone could easily be their entire reason for doing this.
 
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Baymowe335 said:
I’ve literally never had an Apple charger or headphones break. In fact, mine still works from my original iPhone and the iPhone works too.

Apple knows how long they last far better than either of our anecdotal stories and if they indeed don’t include, Apple is confident in their analysis of data we don’t have. Remember, the strategy always confirms the truth...just like getting rid of headphone jack. No one cared, despite the outcry.

This move makes a ton of sense as the iPhone and power bricks become more common. I don’t need one.
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Same. I've never had an Apple charger or headphones break. I'm not sure why some people's chargers break all the time, I wonder whether they are subjecting the charger to unnecessary force or torque?
 
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My MacBook Pro is the only USB-C power adapter I own. If no power adapter is provided I will buy one from a third party. I'd rather have the power adapter over the cable since I prefer 2m length.
 
now i see it said:
Ever since the bigger iPhones with bigger batteries shipped with the little (barely sufficient) 5 watt charger, people and vloggers have been whining "no fast charger included?".
Well it looks like Apple listened and said EF You to us all and now will ship with NO CHARGER.

Be careful what you complain about. Future iPhones might not come with the OS installed or a power cord included.
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We finally got decent chargers for the first time with last years iphone 11 Pro's and now they decide to cut it off.
Definitely a cost saving move more than anything else.

Let the Euro customers be forced to buy chargers with their crazy rules.
 
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melgross said:
The EU has made a big push to stop manufacturers from including g chargers in the box. They want people to reuse the chargers they have. Apple has been in a fight with the EU over the Lightning port. The EU wants them to drop it in favore of “standard” USB. Of course, with USB changing so much and so fast, the question is which USB? It has been micro USB for years, but now, more likely USB C. But rumors are saying that in 2021 possibly, Apple will have no port, and the hat everything will be wireless. How that would work, I have no idea.
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Pretty much how I use my iPhone now. AirPods for music, wireless charger. Charger and cable still in box the phone came with.
 
aaadktda said:
And that smart connector will probably connect to something that will have a charging port (among other features).
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absolutely, but that still makes it a portless iPhone. A good use case of the smart connector is people with CarPlay, but not wireless CarPlay.
 
Wiesenlooser said:
That's great - nickel and dime you for a $1000 phone.

And before fanboys complain about this being an eco-friendly move: Why don't they first design cables and headphones that last longer than a couple of months (and don't say they last for me - search it, it is a well known problem that both the earpods as well as charging cables keep breaking)
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It is an ecological move and they do last for me. I am not going read something on the internet to believe things. Why should I when me and many of my family/friends have been using iPhones for over 6 years. I can speak based on personal experience of me and everyone around me.

What are you going to do? Call me more names?
 
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Hmmm I can see this. The phone itself, a 2m lightning to usb-c cable and a booklet/sticker.

People already have power adapters and computers that can support usb-c. If not, they’ll buy an adapter or a wireless charger. Makes sense to me.
 
Great news. Chargers last indefinitely, no need to bundle them with every phone, and practically nobody uses the bundled earphones. This will prevent hundreds of tons of paper, plastic and e-waste every year, not to mention CO2 saved from shipping these boxes that are half the volume.

If you still don’t have a USB-C charger, here’s a nice compact 18w one for $9.99.

www.amazon.com

[Upgraded] iPhone Fast Charger, AUKEY Swift 20W USB C Charger for iPhone 12/12 Mini/12 Pro Max, Foldable Plug &Power Delivery 3.0, PD Charger Adapter USB C Wall Charger for iPad Pro/AirPods Pro/Switch

[Upgraded] iPhone Fast Charger, AUKEY Swift 20W USB C Charger for iPhone 12/12 Mini/12 Pro Max, Foldable Plug &Power Delivery 3.0, PD Charger Adapter USB C Wall Charger for iPad Pro/AirPods Pro/Switch
www.amazon.com
 
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Geeze, the iPhone even gets 'box' rumours whilst iMac fans with their tongues hanging out...are still waiting...

...dying of thirst.

Azrael.
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metanoiaway said:
lowering the price of the phone is the only scenario where this is not completely outrageous
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Wheels. 6k towers. Socks. No kb or mouse or gpu with the Mac Mini...

...and now...no adapter with the iPhone?

Whatever next? Losing legacy ports of Macbooks? Or crepe keyboards? Or bendy iPads?

Meh. £££.

Ship it without a box. That would be environmentally friendly. People can use their old iPod or iPhone boxes. And Apple can pocket that too to push their share price higher.

Azrael.
 
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They need to be careful about how they implement this or there will be pissed off first-time buyers who can't charge their phones.

One idea would be to have checkboxes like this:

[ ] I already have a charger and do not wish to purchase one in this order. (-$10)
[ ] I already have a lightning cable and do not wish to purchase one in this order. (-$10)

Note that both a charger and lightning cable are required to use your device.

The buyer has to go out of their way to NOT order the charger and lightning cable, and get a little money back if they don't.
 
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NickName99 said:
Great news. Chargers last indefinitely, no need to bundle them with every phone, and practically nobody uses the bundled earphones. This will prevent hundreds of tons of paper, plastic and e-waste every year, not to mention CO2 saved from shipping these boxes that are half the volume.
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Current 5W chargers do not support fast charge and take hours to fully charge a phone.
 
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rjohnstone said:
They already sell a charger for $29. 18W USB-C charger
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Any USB-C charger will do, here’s a nice compact little Aukey one for $9.99

www.amazon.com

[Upgraded] iPhone Fast Charger, AUKEY Swift 20W USB C Charger for iPhone 12/12 Mini/12 Pro Max, Foldable Plug &Power Delivery 3.0, PD Charger Adapter USB C Wall Charger for iPad Pro/AirPods Pro/Switch

[Upgraded] iPhone Fast Charger, AUKEY Swift 20W USB C Charger for iPhone 12/12 Mini/12 Pro Max, Foldable Plug &Power Delivery 3.0, PD Charger Adapter USB C Wall Charger for iPad Pro/AirPods Pro/Switch
www.amazon.com
 
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