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I'm about as sedentary as you can get. Other than a bit of walking I don't take part in any sports or physical activities. I also baby my electronics. Guess what happened to me twice? That's right, the face came off. And both times Apple tried as hard as they could to deny me service saying I must have done something wrong. I literally argued with the store manager for a half hour after receiving the 1st repair. She basically told me "we went ahead and repaired it under warranty this time but clearly you must have done something to cause this issue and we won't repair it again." 3 months later it happened again. An another round of arguments before getting it repaired under warranty again.

I'm sick of everyone dog piling on Apple but there are issues the company isn't addressing.
Why would you be sick of everyone dog-piling on Apple when what you experienced is a frequent occurrence?

If your experience was with an Insignia brand product at a Best Buy, then that is something to be expected, but with a premium product at a premium retail outlet? :confused:

For those wanting to know where in the process this issue is, here's a helpful guide.

We're currently at "GateCon" 10.

Here's the typical cycle for problems reported on Apple products:
1. A few members post reports of the problem, report it to Apple
2. No response from Apple
3. Increased number of people report the issue
4. No response from Apple
5. Apple apologists dismiss the reports as very rare, the result of trolling, or exaggeration by drama queens
6. Even more reports of the problem
7. No response from Apple
8. News of the problem hits blogs
9. Apple apologists dismiss the blogs as simply engaging in clickbait
10. No response from Apple
11. Those affected by the issue threaten a class-action lawsuit
12. Apple apologists decry the "sue happy" nature of American consumers
13. Apple acknowledges the legitimacy of the problem
14. Apple apologists are silent
15. Apple release an update to correct the problem
or
15. They set up a "program" to address the problem.
16. Apple gains some positive publicity
17. Apple apologists applaud Apple for doing the "right thing". (for an issue that they said from day-1 was not actually an issue)
18. First hand experience with the “program” reveals very strict guidelines and restrictions that greatly reduce the number of affected customers that can participate in the program.
 
This is completely bogus. They give you a new one no questions asked. I've had my version one replaced once for this issue and once for another issue. Both, well out of warranty.
 
Why would you be sick of everyone dog-piling on Apple when what you experienced is a frequent occurrence?

If your experience was with an Insignia brand product at a Best Buy, then that is something to be expected, but with a premium product at a premium retail outlet? :confused:

For those wanting to know where in the process this issue is, here's a helpful guide.

We're currently at "GateCon" 10.

Here's the typical cycle for problems reported on Apple products:
1. A few members post reports of the problem, report it to Apple
2. No response from Apple
3. Increased number of people report the issue
4. No response from Apple
5. Apple apologists dismiss the reports as very rare, the result of trolling, or exaggeration by drama queens
6. Even more reports of the problem
7. No response from Apple
8. News of the problem hits blogs
9. Apple apologists dismiss the blogs as simply engaging in clickbait
10. No response from Apple
11. Those affected by the issue threaten a class-action lawsuit
12. Apple apologists decry the "sue happy" nature of American consumers
13. Apple acknowledges the legitimacy of the problem
14. Apple apologists are silent
15. Apple release an update to correct the problem
or
15. They set up a "program" to address the problem.
16. Apple gains some positive publicity
17. Apple apologists applaud Apple for doing the "right thing". (for an issue that they said from day-1 was not actually an issue)
18. First hand experience with the “program” reveals very strict guidelines and restrictions that greatly reduce the number of affected customers that can participate in the program.

Bravo! You nailed it.
[doublepost=1528751819][/doublepost]Yesterday we had an experience that made me think of this thread.

I'm driving to dinner with my wife and we hear a crack sound. The the right lens on my wife's sunglasses drops into her lap.

Spontaneously the frame around the right lens had just cracked with a popping sound, without even touching or handling the sunglasses in any way. If I hadn't been there to witness it NOBODY would have believed her.

People with this AW problem have also reported the glass popping off in a similar manner, out of the blue without trauma to the watch, with sharp edges around the glass where it broke circumferentially around the screen. And Apple was blaming the customers, and refusing to acknowledge the truth of their stories. Well over 400 People have now reported the same issue on Apple discussions.
 
Guess the lawyers want a cut..I’m sure the few folks that this happened had them replaced or upgraded by Apple already..I can only imagine how much more innovating and investing Apple could do if they weren’t subjected to lawsuits every other minute..

Yes, the lawyers want to get paid for their services...just like any other profession. No, Apple hasn't already replaced or upgraded the watches. If they had, then there wouldn't be lawyers involved.
 
This is completely bogus. They give you a new one no questions asked. I've had my version one replaced once for this issue and once for another issue. Both, well out of warranty.
They asked me to send photos on my second watch and even denied it's 3 years total. Many here have paid money on what's obviously a defect. What is simple for you, might not be so simple for others.

My first watch was simple, the second was not. Now they've lost the replacement between Apple and UPS. So even more hassle!
 



A new class action lawsuit filed against Apple this week alleges that all Apple Watch models suffer from a defect that causes the display to "crack, shatter, or detach from the body of the watch, through no fault of the wearer."

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The proposed class is all current and former owners of all models, sizes, and variants of the Apple Watch, including the original, Series 1, Series 2, and Series 3 generations, purchased in the United States between April 2015 and present, according to court documents obtained by MacRumors.

The complaint, filed in Northern California district court, alleges that Apple has sold millions of watches with the defect throughout the United States, and "either knew, or should have known," about the display issues. Apple is said to have "actively concealed" and "failed to disclose" the defect to customers.

The complaint adds that Apple's internal policy is to "deny the existence of the defect, claim the defect is the result of accidental damage caused by consumers, and then refuse to honor its limited warranty on those grounds," resulting in customers facing expensive fees to repair or replace their defective watches.

Apple Watch out-of-warranty service fees range from $229 to $329 in the United States, excluding high-end Edition models.

The lawsuit was brought against Apple by Colorado resident Kenneth Sciacca, who purchased an Apple Watch Series 2 in December 2016. In or around March 2018, the screen on Sciacca's watch is said to have "unexpectedly detached from the watch's body shortly after he removed the watch from its charger."

The complaint cites a handful of comments from the Apple Support Communities, and similar complaints can be found scattered across the MacRumors forums, Reddit, Twitter, and other discussion platforms.

Apple has acknowledged issues with swollen batteries in select original and Series 2 models, which can cause the display to pop off, and offered free repairs up to three years after purchase, according to internal guidelines previously obtained by MacRumors. However, the complaint alleges that Apple refuses to extend the free repairs to watches with detached displays but no swollen battery.

Apple is accused of unlawful business acts and practices, in violation of California's Business and Professions Code, in addition to violating California's Consumers Legal Remedies Act and the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, breaching express and implied warranties, and unjust enrichment.

The complaint is seeking damages to fully compensate affected Apple Watch owners for all losses sustained as a result of the alleged defect, plus further relief as seen fit by the court. A jury trial has been demanded.

Article Link: Class Action Lawsuit: Apple Watches Have Defective Displays That Can Spontaneously Detach
[doublepost=1528844120][/doublepost]This happened to my wife's < 4 month old Series 3. She put it on the charger when going to bed, and when she awoke the screen was detached and cracked.

The folks at the Apple Store have been totally unhelpful and basically told us they don't believe us.

I'm very disappointed in Apple.
 
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[doublepost=1528844120][/doublepost]This happened to my wife's < 4 month old Series 3. She put it on the charger when going to bed, and when she awoke the screen was detached and cracked.

The folks at the Apple Store have been totally unhelpful and basically told us they don't believe us.

I'm very disappointed in Apple.

Yeah, this is what I'm saying. I love and use a boatload of Apple products - but I wont defend the indefensible.

All the Apple apologists that don't even research this new issue before spouting off about the older screen detachment issue (that isn't the same) tick me off.

(Basically, I'm still a fan boy. I have an iPhone X and 7+, iPad mini 2 and Air 2, MacBook Air and 15" retina MacBook, 27" iMac, and Series 3 LTE Apple Watch. My wife and son both have an iPhone, iPad Mini 4, and Apple Watch, and he is using a 15" retina MacBook. My middle daughter has an iPhone 8, 13" MacBook Air, and Apple Watch. My oldest daughter has a 12" MacBook Pro and iPhone SE. We have 7 Apple TV's amongst us. I have my mother-in-law set up with an iPad mini, and my brother set up with a 13"MacBook, an iPhone 6, and an iPad mini)
 
My Apple2 watch did this exact thing yesterday. Went to look at the time and saw the screen was hanging off the watch.

I don't recall hitting anything so was a little surprised to see the insides of my watch I have an appointment with Apple Store this coming Wednesday will be interesting to see what they have to say. I cant tell if the battery is swollen or not.

So update to my original post I visited the apple store today in Amsterdam

My watched looked like this

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Apple replaced it under some internal swollen watch battery policy which the apple staff new about and after getting a second opinion from another colleague agreed the watch would be replaced under this policy without charge despite my watch being out of warranty and no apple care.
 
So update to my original post I visited the apple store today in Amsterdam

Apple replaced it under some internal swollen watch battery policy which the apple staff new about and after getting a second opinion from another colleague agreed the watch would be replaced under this policy without charge despite my watch being out of warranty and no apple care.

Hey! Keep it down, your situation isn't fitting into the narrative of Apple not addressing the issues appropriately. /s

I am very interested in buying the next version of AW that comes out as a replacement for my Suunto. Posts like yours let me know the company actually stands behind their product (at least this one), so it should be a worthwhile buy.
 
Hey! Keep it down, your situation isn't fitting into the narrative of Apple not addressing the issues appropriately. /s

I am very interested in buying the next version of AW that comes out as a replacement for my Suunto. Posts like yours let me know the company actually stands behind their product (at least this one), so it should be a worthwhile buy.

Yeah I know it doesn't fit the narrative, To be honest never understood this class action against apple for the watch. The only people who benefit are the lawyers I have not once ever bought an Apple product where a hardware fault has been discovered and apple haven't fixed it out of goodwill or because it was under warranty..
 
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This is completely bogus. They give you a new one no questions asked. I've had my version one replaced once for this issue and once for another issue. Both, well out of warranty.
I wish this was the case. The would not do the same for me. Just said they would give me money off a new one or could recycle it.
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So update to my original post I visited the apple store today in Amsterdam

My watched looked like this

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Apple replaced it under some internal swollen watch battery policy which the apple staff new about and after getting a second opinion from another colleague agreed the watch would be replaced under this policy without charge despite my watch being out of warranty and no apple care.
I’m going to try again with my watch. Seeing as how sometimes I know it depends on the Apple specialist you also speak with.
 
I had An issue with my first Apple Watch (got one of the first delivery dates). After being outside on an exceptionally hot day in Texas, I noticed that my face popped off. I pushed it back on and I guess after cooling off, it sealed back up. Put it on the charger when I got home and in the morning when I took it off, the back stuck to the charger and popped off the watch.

I took it in to Apple and they said “oh well you weren’t supposed to use it outside of operating specs you voided the warranty luckily you have Apple care so we’ll just replace it.”

I went no further with it because I got the replacement with no fuss. But figured it would turn into a big deal as more people encountered this problem
 
I had An issue with my first Apple Watch (got one of the first delivery dates). After being outside on an exceptionally hot day in Texas, I noticed that my face popped off. I pushed it back on and I guess after cooling off, it sealed back up. Put it on the charger when I got home and in the morning when I took it off, the back stuck to the charger and popped off the watch.

I took it in to Apple and they said “oh well you weren’t supposed to use it outside of operating specs you voided the warranty luckily you have Apple care so we’ll just replace it.”

I went no further with it because I got the replacement with no fuss. But figured it would turn into a big deal as more people encountered this problem
You know, I'm in Texas and both my watches ended up with a swollen battery. Are they saying that the watches are not made for anything but cool, indoor, air conditioned places now? That's just plain sad.
 
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I posted about this happing to me, well last night, it happens again. This time I got cut.

After the game Apple played last time, I went to an Apple store again and had Manager look at the watch stating there was no impact damage.

They said, they still had to check for “liquid” damage.
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Yeah I know it doesn't fit the narrative, To be honest never understood this class action against apple for the watch. The only people who benefit are the lawyers I have not once ever bought an Apple product where a hardware fault has been discovered and apple haven't fixed it out of goodwill or because it was under warranty..

Unfortunately, that is because of the scare of class actions. Without them they would not. See my other two post on this subject.
 

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Update, I got a phone call from the local store, telling me the screen is cracked and that makes it accidental damage.

I told the agent, do you not see that a manager already reviewed the watch and notated that there was not physical damage.

He said, that is not clear form the notes, and we are going to charge your for the repair. I said “are you serious, you need to review the notes and speak to the manager. I specifically had a manager review the watch to prevent this. Then I said yes, I want my watch repaired and no i’m not going to pay for it”
 



A new class action lawsuit filed against Apple this week alleges that all Apple Watch models suffer from a defect that causes the display to "crack, shatter, or detach from the body of the watch, through no fault of the wearer."

apple-watch-detached-800x595.jpg

The proposed class is all current and former owners of all models, sizes, and variants of the Apple Watch, including the original, Series 1, Series 2, and Series 3 generations, purchased in the United States between April 2015 and present, according to court documents obtained by MacRumors.

The complaint, filed in Northern California district court, alleges that Apple has sold millions of watches with the defect throughout the United States, and "either knew, or should have known," about the display issues. Apple is said to have "actively concealed" and "failed to disclose" the defect to customers.

The complaint adds that Apple's internal policy is to "deny the existence of the defect, claim the defect is the result of accidental damage caused by consumers, and then refuse to honor its limited warranty on those grounds," resulting in customers facing expensive fees to repair or replace their defective watches.

Apple Watch out-of-warranty service fees range from $229 to $329 in the United States, excluding high-end Edition models.

The lawsuit was brought against Apple by Colorado resident Kenneth Sciacca, who purchased an Apple Watch Series 2 in December 2016. In or around March 2018, the screen on Sciacca's watch is said to have "unexpectedly detached from the watch's body shortly after he removed the watch from its charger."

The complaint cites a handful of comments from the Apple Support Communities, and similar complaints can be found scattered across the MacRumors forums, Reddit, Twitter, and other discussion platforms.

Apple has acknowledged issues with swollen batteries in select original and Series 2 models, which can cause the display to pop off, and offered free repairs up to three years after purchase, according to internal guidelines previously obtained by MacRumors. However, the complaint alleges that Apple refuses to extend the free repairs to watches with detached displays but no swollen battery.

Apple is accused of unlawful business acts and practices, in violation of California's Business and Professions Code, in addition to violating California's Consumers Legal Remedies Act and the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, breaching express and implied warranties, and unjust enrichment.

The complaint is seeking damages to fully compensate affected Apple Watch owners for all losses sustained as a result of the alleged defect, plus further relief as seen fit by the court. A jury trial has been demanded.

Article Link: Class Action Lawsuit: Apple Watches Have Defective Displays That Can Spontaneously Detach
I thought I was the only one with this issue. I am now on my third Apple Watch. Apple has been really great about replacing it once the screen issue occurred though. Apple is still a great company but people will always try and take down a giant company like Apple in hope that they will get a piece of the pie.
 
Update, I got a phone call from the local store, telling me the screen is cracked and that makes it accidental damage.

I told the agent, do you not see that a manager already reviewed the watch and notated that there was not physical damage.

He said, that is not clear form the notes, and we are going to charge your for the repair. I said “are you serious, you need to review the notes and speak to the manager. I specifically had a manager review the watch to prevent this. Then I said yes, I want my watch repaired and no i’m not going to pay for it”

the same happened to my Apple Watch Series 2 Nike. I sent it in (living in Germany) and Apple refuses to replace it. I'm not very happy with them right now.

What do the Apple apologists have to stay about this inconsistent treatment of customers, where people like you guys are being told that you have to pay to fix it, while a small minority of people who presented with this same issue recently have been covered by Apple?

When it first started happening, for the first couple of months Apple wouldn't remedy anyone with this issue; and then later they randomly decided to help only a few customers, without changing their policy to have the issue covered for everyone.
 
What do the Apple apologists have to stay about this inconsistent treatment of customers, where people like you guys are being told that you have to pay to fix it, while a small minority of people who presented with this same issue recently have been covered by Apple?

When it first started happening, for the first couple of months Apple wouldn't remedy anyone with this issue; and then later they randomly decided to help only a few customers, without changing their policy to have the issue covered for everyone.
My first was replaced no issues.

Second one was a serious fight.

They are very inconsistent. I had to tell them to check their internal memo to finally get it done. Sent photos, talked to multiple people, etc. It was a serious headache.

The people in store are even worse. Recently, like two days ago, took in my old 6s I gave to my husband to replace the battery. Tried charging me $29 when I clearly showed him mine was first batch with free battery replacement. The guy went to talk to like 3 other people before they finally were like "Okay".

Bah.
 
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So all must be well since there hasn’t been a post since June 21st?

I just received my unopened Apple Watch Series 1 42mm, should I return or allow 220 posts influenced me. I still see plenty of people wearing them, let alone speaking of this lawsuit. Interesting posts to say the least though.
 
So all must be well since there hasn’t been a post since June 21st?

I just received my unopened Apple Watch Series 1 42mm, should I return or allow 220 posts influenced me. I still see plenty of people wearing them, let alone speaking of this lawsuit. Interesting posts to say the least though.

I think it depends on what your expectation of the device is. I love my Apple watch and use it daily, but in the back of my mind I know the screen will fall off one day and Apple won’t replace it (the face fell of my series 0 at 2.5 years and Apple replaced the watch, no questions asked).

I paid around $350 and if you include both physical devices I hope to get around 5 years wear out of it. So when the replacement loses its face I won’t be too upset and will probably buy the latest version and pray I get five years out of that.

I know this logic may sound ridiculous, but it’s not classic wristwatch that gets handed down from generation to generation. Show your kids an iPhone 4 and see their reaction. Even better, show them a Flip camera! Tech dates.

Should the watch last 10 years - YES! Am I annoyed that the face fell of my first one and could fall off again at any time - YES! Should Apple fix the problem and replace all watches that suffer from the issue - YES! Will I stop wearing mine - NO. It’s a very useful device and at entry level, price vs. expectation has been met for me.
 
I think it depends on what your expectation of the device is. I love my Apple watch and use it daily, but in the back of my mind I know the screen will fall off one day and Apple won’t replace it (the face fell of my series 0 at 2.5 years and Apple replaced the watch, no questions asked).

I paid around $350 and if you include both physical devices I hope to get around 5 years wear out of it. So when the replacement loses its face I won’t be too upset and will probably buy the latest version and pray I get five years out of that.

I know this logic may sound ridiculous, but it’s not classic wristwatch that gets handed down from generation to generation. Show your kids an iPhone 4 and see their reaction. Even better, show them a Flip camera! Tech dates.

Should the watch last 10 years - YES! Am I annoyed that the face fell of my first one and could fall off again at any time - YES! Should Apple fix the problem and replace all watches that suffer from the issue - YES! Will I stop wearing mine - NO. It’s a very useful device and at entry level, price vs. expectation has been met for me.

I appreciate your response. Got it for the messages and random times to talk and of course to tell me the time lol so I expect it to last 5+yrs due to how I take care of electronics. I shouldn’t have to worry about a pop off but if this is serious, I may just say forget it but I have some days like 30 before I could return. In the end, it’s just material, but still.
 
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I think it depends on what your expectation of the device is. I love my Apple watch and use it daily, but in the back of my mind I know the screen will fall off one day and Apple won’t replace it (the face fell of my series 0 at 2.5 years and Apple replaced the watch, no questions asked).

I wish I knew how the Apple customer service voodoo worked. When my series 0 screen fell off out of warranty they basically spit in my face.
 
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