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Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Apple Over 2011 MacBook Pro Graphics Issues
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If it's because of lead-free solder, than thats pretty damn stupid... How much lead could be in a laptop? Apple's laptops have never had great thermal management, they are thin beyond necessity and that means more internal heat. No wonder this miracle solder cracks.
They're really just doing this to please the eco crowd so they can display their famous environmental stats on each keynote.
If their products were properly and easily serviceable (see 1st gen iMac G5) you wouldnt have to worry so much about recycling them when they break.
They're really just doing this to please the eco crowd so they can display their famous environmental stats on each keynote.
If their products were properly and easily serviceable (see 1st gen iMac G5) you wouldnt have to worry so much about recycling them when they break.
Apple makes fantastic software but very crappy hardware ��
All my last 3 iMacs has had display issues
And my new iPhone 6 Plus already has dead pixels ��
All my last 3 iMacs has had display issues
And my new iPhone 6 Plus already has dead pixels ��
No matter the outcome of the case (Defendant or Prosecution win, case being dropped, etc.), the lawyer pretty much always gets paid. Its really just a matter of how much. The system is basically set up in a way that the lawyer always gets his money. Even those "pay lawyer fees only if you win" lawyers pretty much always come out on top.
I have a mid-2009 MBP which begun experiencing major stalls with my 3rd party SSD after a logic board replacement at the store. The issue is believed to be caused by a nVidia graphics chip.
Yup, they did, but a majority of the issues on the forum are for the mid 2010's.
Well, every other manufacturer also uses lead-free solder. Yet Apple is the only one with consistent problems, or at least not owning up to them. The problem is quite complex. Lead free solder is more prone to thermal cycling problems. As the components heat up around the solder, it causes stress on the solder. After several years of things expanding and compressing, the solder start flaking (if you bend a piece of metal back and forth enough it's snap). The type of solder and the way it mates the two surfaces also has a large impact on the lifespan. And lastly, those machines run very very hot.
But yes, quite ironic that trying to be eco friendly by using lead free solder causes computers to be completely unusable very prematurely.
If your 2011 GPU fails just get it lead solder reballed - get the heatsink plates shined to mirrors & use less and better thermal paste.
The depot logic board refurbs are lead free and never last. First of my nine I had lead soldered over a year ago and all nine are still working good and running much cooler. All were fresh boards and not depots.
Hopefully the users who paid for their reball work will get their money refunded off Apple and rightfully so. Those two chips were far too much heat in that chassis especially so when the engineering guidelines were no different from the 2010 and the plates as rough finished as matte, terrible for heat transfer.
The depot logic board refurbs are lead free and never last. First of my nine I had lead soldered over a year ago and all nine are still working good and running much cooler. All were fresh boards and not depots.
Hopefully the users who paid for their reball work will get their money refunded off Apple and rightfully so. Those two chips were far too much heat in that chassis especially so when the engineering guidelines were no different from the 2010 and the plates as rough finished as matte, terrible for heat transfer.
Thanks Gav Mack. I appreciate the insights you've shared over the months in that thread.
Just so were clear, are you saying that Apple is not at fault for these GPU failures?
This.
I'm hoping those with the 2011 aren't expecting anything more than a few bucks if the lawsuit is settled.
And what is she complaining about? The non-existent dedicated gpu in an air?
What about us who own Mac Pros that keep shutting down spontaneously!!!
The nMac Pro?
I'm seldom motivated by fear of failure, but I was motivated to sell my perfectly good early-2011 15" MBP earlier this year and buy a series of rMBPs to replace it.
I hope those who were braver than I - who hung onto their notebooks and experienced a failure - will find some comfort or solace in this effort.
I'll be among the few offering kudos to the attorneys involved ... I know the costs are astronomical. In the end, however, since Apple was determined to ignore the issue, I know of no other way to bring it to some degree of closure.
I hope those who were braver than I - who hung onto their notebooks and experienced a failure - will find some comfort or solace in this effort.
I'll be among the few offering kudos to the attorneys involved ... I know the costs are astronomical. In the end, however, since Apple was determined to ignore the issue, I know of no other way to bring it to some degree of closure.
I'm currently sitting i front my 2011 17 MacBook Pro which crashed last week due to this problem. this happened 1 week after my apple care ran out which mind you I was going to renew . thought I still had a month left . right now I'm stuck in barbados and the service here is crappy . took it in for a diagnostic test after scouring the Internet and finding the petition and other people who shared the same problem I'm having . I'm not asking for much, all I'm asking for is that my logic board be replaced or get a discounted price on replacement because the failed part was nothing to do with my end. I've already had a failed hd and cd rom which were covered but this is the second time in 7 months I'm computer less and this time without Apple care ! I'm headed to the Apple Store to make a fuss on Sunday .. will report back on what they say
I wish the genius had told me that. He took to the back for about 15 minutes, came back, and said I needed a new LCD panel to the tune of $700 since AppleCare had run out back in March 2014. I told him it didn't make sense to me that the problem was the panel and he said he was sure it was because my external display didn't have the pink lines all over it.
I mentioned the graphics issues people were reporting specifically with the early-2011 MBP and he said even if Apple did a recall in the future, it wouldn't impact me because my machine was out of AppleCare. Obviously that's not true but I knew there was no way I was going to authorize a $700 repair on the machine and be without it for a week so I just left.
Apple replaced my MB twice on my early 2011 17" MBP. Once under Apple Care the other was a few months after it expired. Even replaced my 3rd party 8GB DIMM's w/ Apple 4GB DIMM's the second time when they dectected one of the 8GB was going bad also.
While I agree it is kinda shoddy how they have publicly handled this issue, My experience has been ok so far. And I guess I will soon have to retire my 17" MBP after 4+ years of solid use. Just hope it is before the GPU dies again. Just wish they still had a 17" option.
While I agree it is kinda shoddy how they have publicly handled this issue, My experience has been ok so far. And I guess I will soon have to retire my 17" MBP after 4+ years of solid use. Just hope it is before the GPU dies again. Just wish they still had a 17" option.
Nobody has a problem with giving a damn about environmental issues. Apple makes a virtue of mentioning how green it is every keynote, after all. Apple, however, is solely responsible for the specification, design and oversight of the production of its computers. Unapologetically thin at all costs has its price.
It's Apple's fault. So we shall bitch and moan about Apple to the lawyers until Apple learns better.