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Class Action Lawsuit Filed Over iPhone 4 Glass Breakage
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I hope this guy gets the book slammed on his retarded a**.
Doesn't matter if you are "accidentally" dropping it. This is a premium product among the mobile phone market. If you drop it "accidentally" then you will have to "accidentally" lose money from your wallet. Doesn't matter if you only paid a few hundred dollars to receive the phone from Apple/ATT, the products value is closer to that of an inexpensive laptop computer. If you drop that from "only 3 feet" and the screen breaks....guess what the manufacturer is going to do? NOT A DAMN THING BUT TAKE YOUR CREDIT CARD NUMBER!!!! Maybe if he thought of it as a more expensive phone he'd be more careful with it.
Dude is just trying to make an easy buck for being a butterfingered moron
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Doesn't matter if you are "accidentally" dropping it. This is a premium product among the mobile phone market. If you drop it "accidentally" then you will have to "accidentally" lose money from your wallet. Doesn't matter if you only paid a few hundred dollars to receive the phone from Apple/ATT, the products value is closer to that of an inexpensive laptop computer. If you drop that from "only 3 feet" and the screen breaks....guess what the manufacturer is going to do? NOT A DAMN THING BUT TAKE YOUR CREDIT CARD NUMBER!!!! Maybe if he thought of it as a more expensive phone he'd be more careful with it.
Dude is just trying to make an easy buck for being a butterfingered moron
.I can see where he's coming from with this. My iPhone's glass broke and I'm going to have someone help me replace it. I understand glass breaks when it drops, but I dropped it no more than 2 feet off the ground onto concrete, and it put a nice, big crack across the top of my phone.
I dropped my iPod touch off my deck onto the ground (which is concrete too) and that drop was around 6 feet off the ground, and guess what? I didn't have a case on it, and it survived with a bunch of scratches on the sides. The glass never broke (Ok, maybe a few scratches, but that's it)
This is a case that apple needs to address. We realize they like to have their products look nice, but the iPhone 4 is just too god damn fragile, unless you never leave the house or put it in a megahuge otterbox case.
I dropped my iPod touch off my deck onto the ground (which is concrete too) and that drop was around 6 feet off the ground, and guess what? I didn't have a case on it, and it survived with a bunch of scratches on the sides. The glass never broke (Ok, maybe a few scratches, but that's it)
This is a case that apple needs to address. We realize they like to have their products look nice, but the iPhone 4 is just too god damn fragile, unless you never leave the house or put it in a megahuge otterbox case.
My iPhone 4 recently fell off the arm of my couch, roughly three feet, and the glass too broke. It's fallen in extremely similar conditions before with no breakage. Than all of a sudden, a break. Very upset and sad over this.
One would ASSUME that shatter proof resistant glass used in aircraft and high speed trains could with stand the force of a 2 to 3 foot drop to the ground.
Yeah, yeah, yeah....got it...glass breaks! Go back and listen to the video about the new iPhone4's front and rear glass. When Apple debuted the iPhone, it was touted as a bullet catcher (not really, but they hyped it up). They never said, oh wait, this is glass and will break, so everyone please use the device with extreme care.
I'm not saying I agree with a class action. I am saying, Apple led us to believe prior to all the horror stories, that this thing would withstand a great deal of abuse. As it turns out, this is not the case.
I remember on this forum, the lengthy thread when we all figured out the actual screen would scratch. Also, when tech companies got it, the first thing they did was drop tests to see if the claims were accurate. Of course, now that we've all had one in our hands for 7 months we know better.
We quickly forget how Apple touted the iPhone prior to launch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah....got it...glass breaks! Go back and listen to the video about the new iPhone4's front and rear glass. When Apple debuted the iPhone, it was touted as a bullet catcher (not really, but they hyped it up). They never said, oh wait, this is glass and will break, so everyone please use the device with extreme care.
I'm not saying I agree with a class action. I am saying, Apple led us to believe prior to all the horror stories, that this thing would withstand a great deal of abuse. As it turns out, this is not the case.
I remember on this forum, the lengthy thread when we all figured out the actual screen would scratch. Also, when tech companies got it, the first thing they did was drop tests to see if the claims were accurate. Of course, now that we've all had one in our hands for 7 months we know better.
We quickly forget how Apple touted the iPhone prior to launch.
Sorry to burst your bubble but no it isn't. LG, Samsung and HTC offer similar and even better spec'd devices.
Please add this post to your favorites list, so that you can update us when something unexpected happens and you drop your phone (or, "it falls from you").
Even if it survives the event - let us know.
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His claims are valid. Yes he should learn to hold the Phone better, but apple's claims of "30x stronger than plastic" or whatever is just bogus. I never thought it was a good idea to have glass on BOTH sides of the iphone 4. That's seriously just asking for people to accidentally break their phones. The glass is definitely scratch proof but as far as shatter proof, nope! Not one bit. I still think the most durable iphone is the original 2g with the aluminum back.
His claims are valid. Yes he should learn to hold the Phone better, but apple's claims of "30x stronger than plastic" or whatever is just bogus. I never thought it was a good idea to have glass on BOTH sides of the iphone 4. That's seriously just asking for people to accidentally break their phones. The glass is definitely scratch proof but as far as shatter proof, nope! Not one bit. I still think the most durable iphone is the original 2g with the aluminum back.
Dropping your phone is not considered "normal" functionality of the phone in the slightest.
How is it a "design flaw" for glass to break when dropped? One time I was doing dishes and a plate slipped out of my hands, hitting another plate beneath it and breaking it. Do you think I could sue IKEA for selling plates that break?
Would crashing your car be considered normal use? Not everyone does it, but it happens occasionally.
If he wins, that's just ridiculous.
How is it a "design flaw" for glass to break when dropped? One time I was doing dishes and a plate slipped out of my hands, hitting another plate beneath it and breaking it. Do you think I could sue IKEA for selling plates that break?
Would crashing your car be considered normal use? Not everyone does it, but it happens occasionally.
If he wins, that's just ridiculous.
+1 for this guy's comment ... and for the guy starting the lawsuit ... when he was a kid, the most common words out of his mouth were
It was not me ... it was him ... I know you are but what am I! ... his next phone should look like this
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Why do people come up with such ludicrous examples?!?!! That is nowhere near the same thing.
Dropping mobile devices is to be expected as part of their normal use...yes.
That's only normal for people who are not careful. Just like how when someone crashes their car, it's not considered "normal use". Bottom line, if you have expensive stuff, BE CAREFUL WITH IT. I hope the judge laughs in his face.
I dropped my phone last year and broke the glass screen (HTC Droid Eris). It fell from about 3-4 feet (about pocket height) because I was not careful enough when I was taking it out of my pocket (I blame the beer). I dropped it, the screen broke, and of course I was upset. But I sure as hell didn't call HTC and demand a new one. Why? Because it's GLASS, and GLASS BREAKS when dropped on a hard surface (in my case, a parking lot).
It's called INSURANCE, people. That, and learning. I declined insurance on that phone because "I never drop my phones". Well, the one time I did, I sure wished I had it. So now, when I get my iPhone next month, I will be damn sure to get insurance. Why? Because it's GLASS, and it's EXPENSIVE.
Re: Class Action Lawsuit Filed Over iPhone 4 Glass Breakage
Out of all of the previous iPhones I have had, I am happy to say and am a bit surprised that I have yet to drop the iPhone 4 that I now carry. The previous iPhone I had, a 3G I replaced the glass on it 2 times (and the whole unit once), and the last time I dropped and cracked the 3G was about a week after I got it replaced!
Out of all of the previous iPhones I have had, I am happy to say and am a bit surprised that I have yet to drop the iPhone 4 that I now carry. The previous iPhone I had, a 3G I replaced the glass on it 2 times (and the whole unit once), and the last time I dropped and cracked the 3G was about a week after I got it replaced!
I agree, which is why manufacturers go through the efforts to do stress testing like those shown in this video.
Apple must have done some similar "tumble" and "drop" tests to HTC in that video which may be one of the reasons why they created their own bumpers. Of course the testing didn't make the Nexus One indestructible either..
Apple still has a piss poor design flaw in the phone no matter how you cut it. They left an edge of the glass exposed. If they had made the metal band a little wider covering the edge that would not be an issue.
Yes chances can happen that it breaks when a phone falls but the iPhone odds of breaking from being dropped is a heck of a lot higher than the rest of the phones out there and 3rd part insurance companies have provided the data to back it up. iPhone 4 has a higher accident rate than the 3G and 3GS along with other smart phones on the market.
Apple also claims it is stronger but those rates do not seem to back it up either.
A cell phone should be design to expect to take some abuse from normal wear and tear. This includs being drop hitting the ground multiple times. Includes being knock off a night stand during the night.
All that falls in normal wear and tear. Hell my blackberry get knock off the night stand about once a month when I am feeling around for my glass or going for the alarm clock. I keep my glass close to my phone so I can easily find them. The phone is the marker to help me feel for them. Do note that I am pretty much blind with out my glass and I can not exactly see on my night stand.
Or the phone gets knock off while I sleep.
Cell phones take a fair amount of abuse. The iPhone4 I would worry about keys hitting that exposed edge and causing it to crack.
It is sad that Apple had to make a bumper to fix the design flaw in the phone in terms of protecting the glass. I wonder if apple knew it failed some test and figured hey we can make more money by selling 50 cents worth plastic and packaging for 30 bucks.
The majority of Americans aren't engineers. When you say "harder than plastic", people assume that's what you mean in the commonly accepted meaning of stiff/hard, not a technical inference about torsional rigidity. Laws against false advertising are meant to protect a non-technical public.
BS...it's nothing like crashing a car. For one, it is nowhere near the cost. Secondly, it is much smaller and easier to drop.
But you bring up another point. A long time ago, probably before you were born, cars that were made purely out of easily damaged materials were considered crap and the owners got pissed when they were easily damaged. (For some reason the consumers have traded form over function where cars are concerned and the smallest fender bender now costs $2-$3k which is also BS) Same concept here. A majority of the product should not be made of glass...that's just stupid and asking for failure.
Thank you....exactly.
No $#!7!
One does not have to be an engineer to know that although glass is harder than iron (many steel alloys are harder than glass, though), banging an iron bar at a glass window will make the window break and not the bar.
What needs to happen is Apple should invest in R&D to find a more shatter proof solution, than a scratch proof one...
I for one would prefer if I were to drop my phone that it gets scratched over it shattering, then it's down to me whether the scratch is annoying enough to replace the screen (I wouldn't pay to replace the back due to a scratch).
I for one would prefer if I were to drop my phone that it gets scratched over it shattering, then it's down to me whether the scratch is annoying enough to replace the screen (I wouldn't pay to replace the back due to a scratch).
By that dude's standards, every handheld device in the world has to be shockproof and must be able to withstand one drop.
Anyway, those of you who keep spouting the same unsubstantiated nonsense need to get real. Unless you can prove scientifically that the iP4's glass is not 20 times stiffer/ 30 times harder, then you are embarrassing yourself with speculation and guesswork.
Like torbjoern says, one doesn't need to be an engineer or a physicist to understand that stiffness and hardness not only do not increase the substance's resistance to shattering/cracking, but they actually INCREASE it. I have no background in engineer/physics at all, and I understand this.
All that Apple did was state the fact that the iP4's glass was 20 times stiffer/ 30 times harder than "plastic." An imbecile who infers from this statement that his iP4 is now virtually indestructible cannot justifiably win a lawsuit before a reasonable judge.
The bottom line is that Apple isn't responsible for idiotic inferences and assumptions others make about their advertising. Didn't Apple once proclaim about polycarbonate being a material used for bulletproofing? Has any clown out there strapped plastic MacBooks/iBooks onto his chest for target practice yet?