Applenoob34
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I don’t see how this is a software issue. Cold weather affecting a screen sounds more hardware. What software could they adjust to make it reliable in the cold?
They won’t replace it since Apple has acknowledged the issue and is warranting a fix.Take it in and see if they'll replace it. If not, you can do the return and repurchase (if they have available stock).
Right now all the warranty replacements should be new.
I don’t see how this is a software issue. Cold weather affecting a screen sounds more hardware. What software could they adjust to make it reliable in the cold?
iPhone's reliability, in general, is very poorly in cold. My 6s+ battery would go berserk once the temperature drops to 40F and now my iPhone SE is having the same exact issue. Now seeing this issue convinces me that there is just something wrong with iPhone's internal. I still remember vividly the touch disease issue on the 6 and 6+ which Apple never owned up to its mistake.
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Usually when it gets that cold, people stay inside. So...have you used your X for an extended period of time outside? Having it in the pocket keeps it warm too so just have to keep that in mind. The best test, at least for me, is when I put it on a tripod and film my team for a basketball game outside. The phone would go berserk both the screen and the battery.
I personally haven’t experienced this myself but I would be extremely frustrated and upset if my phone froze while outside in the cold weather. I took my phone outside today at -6C and it was working fine... only my hands were freezing. I don’t know why not everyone is experiencing the freeze issue, but luckily Apple acknowledges this and will fix in an update... so let’s wait and see.
Makes sense. I didn’t realize there was a temp sensor. ThanksThere is a temperature sensor. For example when the phone gets too hot and shuts down. Perhaps it’s not calibrating properly. Software bugs pop up in all sorts of weird instances.
Source: I’m a quality assurance engineer.
Please try it without gloves!Well, if we just stayed inside when it was that cold here we would be housebound half the year, as is the case in many places people live. People here still go outside and do stuff (walking, running, skiing, snowboarding, and on and on) in winter. Or need to commute to work, and well, live their daily lives, and so on. They just dress for it.
It is funny as I don’t even consider -10 C or so that cold - certainly not cold enough to prevent doing things outside! I still dress warm of course though. When it starts dipping into colder than -20c and especially into the -30s C then yes, I am going to limit my time outside a little more as I am not that fond of the real cold (or frostbite).
Yes, I have used my X for an extended period this past week while outside, including while going for walks over lunch hour. Including web browsing, moving between apps, browsing and selecting on Spotify, Podcasts, sending texts. All with Touch sensitive gloves of course. I also never had an issue with my previous iPhones.
I don’t typically carry my phone in a coat pocket - it is usually in my hand or a bag/purse. I am too paranoid about accidentally putting my keys or coins in my pocket with my phone! I will also say pockets in coats at -20 C do not stay all that warm without hands or chemical warmers in them, though!
Yeah, I hate this 'gate' suffix. The idea of a watergate is that of a coverup. Not all widespread or even limited reaching problems are a 'gate.' Apple has fully addressed the software issue and that its being addressed in a matter of days. There is no coverup here.
Please try it without gloves!
You should definitely get the unit replaced before other issues starts to take place.
You should definitely get the unit replaced before other issues starts to take place.
Well, I have for brief moments (at a little below -0 C), but I am curious as to why that would make a difference? Other than the chance to freeze my fingers. They are touch sensitive gloves, obviously.
Some phones just do not appear to have this issue, while others do. Who knows why, but I know I am not the only one who has not had issues with it.
I can walk outside and try now, but it is only -4 C right now 🙂
ETA: I am typing this ten minutes later, outside, at -4 C, without gloves, after leaving my 22 C house. No screen or delay issues. Okay, going back inside now as I don’t have a proper jacket on!
No need to replace the unit, it was confirmed as a software issue, likely related to a temperature sensor in the device detecting a sudden drop in temperature and decreasing or inhibiting the touch input system. A software patching expanding the “operable limits” of the temp sensor should clear this up. An easy way to confirm that this is not hardware is when the problem starts, to lock the phone and unlock it again—>the sensor doesn’t detect a sudden change at this point, and the touch system is intact.You should definitely get the unit replaced before other issues starts to take place.
replacing it wont fix a software bug