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AT&T's pricing is absolutely disgusting;

$125 for only 12gb of data versus Sprint's $10 for unlimited?

What kind of idiot would chose AT&T over Sprint where both are available?

Is this a Rhetorical question, or are you really asking??
 
Pre Order Numbers

I would really like to see the pre-order numbers for the iPhone 4S. This will be the real tell on if it is going to be as "big" as some people anticipated.

Mike W.
 
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I was considering switching to Sprint...SERO (available to the public) drops $10 off the monthly price and gives you 500 minutes, rather than 450.

But, I still have unlimited data with AT&T (and over 7,000 rollover minutes...yikes!). When I review my account, I also see that AT&T offers unlimited mobile to mobile with the unlimited texting plan for $20...is this new?

$20.00: Messaging Unlimited with Mobile to Any Mobile Calling

AT&T only gives me one bar in the house...I'm right outside of DC, so go figure. But, AT&T also gives me A-List with five free landlines.

So, the debate continues.
 
I was considering switching to Sprint...SERO (available to the public) drops $10 off the monthly price and gives you 500 minutes, rather than 450.

But, I still have unlimited data with AT&T (and over 7,000 rollover minutes...yikes!). When I review my account, I also see that AT&T offers unlimited mobile to mobile with the unlimited texting plan for $20...is this new?

$20.00: Messaging Unlimited with Mobile to Any Mobile Calling

AT&T only gives me one bar in the house...I'm right outside of DC, so go figure. But, AT&T also gives me A-List with five free landlines.

So, the debate continues.

AT&T is awful nowadays in DC. Not sure what happened in the last year or so, but 2 years ago it was better than it is now.

Switching to verizon probably
 
Having the two year contract price slapping you in the face really highlights the silliness of get the "free" 3gs phone.

Get the 4g current generation phone with contract for $2618.76.

BUT if you can't afford to put down $99 for a phone,
Get the old "free" 3GS with drastically less capability for ONLY $2519.76

seriously - if you need to save that $99 bucks,
you should not be getting a data plan cell phone of any sort.

Well said!!

We run 3 smart phones with unlimited everything on Verizon Plus a MiFi Hot Spot I take with me on the road to make Uploads to the wires while on Photo Shoots.. I'm a Professional, so is my wife. This is a tool for us. OTOH, I don't think our daughter knows that you can talk on her texting device ;)
 
They gave me a much more competitive plan for signing up in June:

$55/month
$100 discount on phone
10 unlimited nationwide numbers
unlimited evenings (6pm) & weekends
200 daytime minutes
1GB data plus unlimited email, facebook & twitter
unlimited texting
 
The way I see it: If you made it to the big two before the death knell sounded on unlimited, moving to sprint would be pointless due to the fact the other two have FAR superior networks (I live in a tiny portion of CT sorrounded by mountians and ONLY Verizon works here.)
 
Virgin Mobile - $35/Month
-300 Minutes
-Unlimited Data
-Unlimited Text
-NO CONTRACT

Until the (iPhone) can beat this... I ain't buying one. :p
 
It is very simple. Because us is the most riches and powerful we need to pay the most expensive. Stop whining!

Its 2011, tiered internet access went out in 1997.

to put things into prospective @ 2GB/month a iCloud user could "stream"/download 2 High definition videos (from the iTS), ~250 songs a month (if not converted to 128kbps w/128kbps its about ~500) or 4 stream/download standard definition from the iTS before they are over their limit.

They are nickle and diming people plain and simple.
 
Surprised Sprint's plan isn't more competitive. Still, at least it has some price advantage.
 
But with Verizon you get a more reliable network.

What do you want -- Slow and steady or fast and unreliable?

Not in Florida, and frankly, not in any of the places I have traveled. One of my favorite memories is of me, in a group of about 20 people traveling back home from Alaska last year, doing early check in for all of us since my iPhone 4 (AT&T) was the only one with service on the bus from Vancouver to Seattle.
 
It's you. I just checked T-Mobile UK's website (www.tmobile.co.uk). It's £61/month (or about $100) for "unlimited minutes, 500 texts, and 1GB data." But you do get the iPhone 4 for "free" with that for a 2 year contract.

Granted, you have more flexibility, as for £25 ($40) you can get 100 minutes and 100 texts (and a whopping 500MB), but then the phone goes up to £275.

No, it's not just him/her.

You could buy the iPhone 4S 16GB unlocked for £499 ($770) and then get a monthly sim only plan (no 24 month contracts required) from giffgaff for £20 ($31). This plan gives 800 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited data. No personal hotspot but this is of no use to me anyway.

Over 2 years this arrangement would cost £979 ($1514). The nearest comparable plan from AT&T would set you back a whopping $5119 (£3317).

I appreciate that most people don't require 12GB of data but that's the closest you get to unlimited with AT&T. I also realise that AT&T offers personal hotspot and an extra 100 minutes but I'm not sure its worth the extra $3605 (£2336)!
 
Rollover minutes are a brilliant scam. AT&T figured out how to offer something that they never have to deliver. Those who need rollover minutes are not the ones accumulating them, and those that tend to accumulate rollover minutes will probably never use them.

Maybe in a lot of cases. I have the 450 plan and I use my rollover minutes 1 out of every 3 months. I use my phone without ever thinking about minutes (even when my home phone is an option) because I effectively have unlimited thanks to the ~4000 rollover minutes I have accumulated.

I hope I don't lose my rollover minutes in a new contract (assuming I stay with AT&T).
 
PC magazines comparison is wrong

The Comparison of 900 minutes saying unlimited texting is wrong. Both AT&T and Verzion charge $20/month for unlimited texting and it is included with Sprint. So AT&T and Verzion's numbers would be $240 more a year than in the chart.
 
I can only afford unlocked devices without data plans :( wifi is abundant enough

ATT forced me to get the data plan..... regardless of if it's third party device or not, if you use smart phones, you will be forced to buy the data plan.. at least the cheapest one... scumbag ATT!!
 
God, I hate when people talk about total expenses over the period of 2 years? You're paying monthly, not annually or bi-annually, there's a difference.

Guess what, by the time you die, you will have spent about 40,000 bucks at Starbucks alone! Might as well buy yourself a luxurious car. :rolleyes:

Some people's logic, I tell ya. :rolleyes:
 
Maybe in a lot of cases. I have the 450 plan and I use my rollover minutes 1 out of every 3 months. I use my phone without ever thinking about minutes (even when my home phone is an option) because I effectively have unlimited thanks to the ~4000 rollover minutes I have accumulated.

I hope I don't lose my rollover minutes in a new contract (assuming I stay with AT&T).

+1

My wife and I share a 700 minute Familytalk plan with 2-lines, and the rollover minutes get dipped into every 2-3 months. Those extra minutes are saving us $$$ as we don't need to worry about going over (and as such, don't need the higher tier).
 
Currently paying $88 with AT&T. Verizon's service may be superior, but I don't think losing unlimited data, unlimited mobile to mobile and paying $25 or so more a month is worth it.

Then again it's looney to think we're paying this much for phone service...:eek:
 
My bill at AT&T for 400 mins and Unlimited data is $70.36 a month. Where are all these crazy figures coming from?!
 
God, I hate when people talk about total expenses over the period of 2 years? You're paying monthly, not annually or bi-annually, there's a difference.

Guess what, by the time you die, you will have spent about 40,000 bucks at Starbucks alone! Might as well buy yourself a luxurious car. :rolleyes:

Some people's logic, I tell ya. :rolleyes:

Speaking of luxury cars...

I hate when people talk about total lease cost over the the period of 4 years. You're paying monthly, not annually or bi-annually, or every 4 years, there's a difference.

Guess what, by the time you die, you will have spent about $600,000 in fine dining. Might as well buy yourself a nice house. :rolleyes:

Some people's logic, I tell ya. :rolleyes:
 
By the time I die, I'll probably have spent 20 years on the internet. I might as well...I don't have a decent punchline, sorry. :(
 
Unbelievable

Wow, just insane, that people can spend $2500 on a phone contract, and still have to pay an extra $199 for buying the iPhone 4S.
I think €1200 is already a lot of money to spend, that's what people spend in Europe on it(2 year contract).
It just blows My mind, I just can't believe that nobody tries to do anything about it.
I will buy My first iPhone soon but it will be a contract free iPhone.
I am from Europe but live in Indonesia right now, I will pick one up when I go to Singapore soon to do My visa run, I use prepaid here and even with a 5Gb +1Gb Free Unlimited (throttled after 5Gb) internet package it won't cost Me more than about $15 a month.
What an expensive "toy" to own in the USA. :eek:
 
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Don't use data, just voice and text. Guess I'm SOL, eh? I pay $95/month for two phones, lots of talk minutes (more than I ever use), 11 "friends & family" numbers (so you know I'm on Verizon)...and this is for TWO phones. BTW, I also get 500 text messages/month on one of the phones.

While I love Apple, I just don't need to be data-connected with an iPhone (although I do love the interface and the fact that I can sync without SyncMate).

My current phone? Motorola Q9 (Windows Mobile 5?). It sucks but what I ask it to do (talk/text) it does.
 
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