I posted this in the comments on a previous thread and thought I would post it in a new thread. There have been some unjustified criticism of Apples products, especially the desktop computers and notebooks. I honestly would like to know, what users are doing so much with their Macs that would cause them to determine Apple's offerings unsatisfactory? What are you making with these computers? I think part of what has happened over the past 10 years with the transition to Intel, a lot of new users came from the WinTel platform (including myself) and came with the feeds and speed mentality. A lot of these new generation of Mac users are partly bandwagonists. They are not actual core users of the platform. They wanted to be part of something and this was part of the Steve Jobs aurora. The sales pitch is not as convincing with a Phil Schiller or Ive. Certainly, if Steve presented the new MacBooks, many would not complaining. The days when Apple was behind with the PowerPC chip; they never cared much for the platform. When Steve introduced the Intel transition, he focused on performance per watt. Not about having a machine with the most RAM or fastest GHz. We have fallen into this trap in 2016 of believing we must future proof the living daylights out of a system to find some imaginary value that will justify buying. We stop looking at buying to meet our "genuine" needs and not who has the biggest (you know what). I think a lot of the unboxing videos on YouTube have fed into this too. This month I visited the states and of course I checked out the iPhone 7 Plus, which I had my eyes on as a possible upgrade from my standard 6s. After checking it out, I asked myself, do I really need this? I had the cash ready, but I said, is this going make posting to Facebook, Twitter, or improve filtered photos on IG any better? I am able to do so much already; I have not exhausted the 64 GBs of space in the phone, all my iTunes library, photos taken over the past year are on it. The new MacBook Pro is nice, but I don't want it, because my 2015 MBP 13 Broadwell is still a great machine that does all I need. I use it for what it is, not to satisfy some imaginary need. I run a couple VMs on 8 GBs of RAM with it, play music in iTunes, surf the web in Firefox and Safari, constantly in Word, working on a slide show in PPT and its not even sweating. I was watching Computer Chronicles this week and an Apple rep was creating professional content on a Power Mac G3 for broadcast. That proved to be a core target audience and it got the job done in 1999. I just want to know why can't a maxed out MBP 15 or entry level model in 2016 do this? Why would it not do this in 2018 too? Users were doing major motion picture post production on Macs for ages and they didn't seem held back by it. Show me your Grammy, Emmy, Oscar and other accolades then I might be receptive to your complaint. If you are not creating motion pictures, then stop complaining. Even then, if you were, you would have use whatever that movie studio provides you, whether that's a 2013 Mac Pro or a 2016 Dell Precision with Linux and Lightworks. Don't tell me that the 2016 MacBook Pro is not enough for you to edit pictures of your children picking boogers in 4k or a member of your church eating cake.