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Complaints Mounting About iOS 13.2 Being 'More Aggressive at Killing Background Apps and Tasks'

From day one when I installed iOS 13.0 I couldn’t even use shortcuts without leaving the app (YouTube video convert to mp3 with shortcut) even leave the phone on sleep mode.... it would destroy the conversion. When sth similar never happened with io12. Also lots of sites lag to load on safari.... forced to move into chrome which I DONT WANT!!

.!. you Apple!
 
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This is an iOS 13 issue, not limited to iOS 13.2. I have this on iOS 13 since the beginning...
Also, it's more prominent on iPads than phones (don't ask me why). My iPad mini 5 barely can handle multiple open tabs. Browsing a site with endless scrolling under iOS 13 stalls Safari halfway (if at all) compared to where it would freeze/become laggy on iOS 12.
Closing other apps doesn't necessarily help.

IMHO: iPadOS 13 has inferior memory management or a major memory leak somewhere.

That said, I've background app refresh completely disable on all my iOS devices.
 
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Naaaaak said:
Pragmatic?

Someone who didn't want to waste more time re-learning and updating projects between versions 1 and 4 while Apple waffled around figuring things out?

Someone who didn't want to ship an extra 10-30 MB of swiftLib cruft with each app (until earlier this year)?

Someone who values productivity and things that work over being a 4-year alpha tester?

If Swift didn't have Apple forcing it down dev throats and marketing it as the coolest thing ever, it would be a pretty unremarkable language. If Apple had put the same effort a serious ObjC improvement as they put into Swift, think of how much further we would be. They killed the baby to appease Lattner's ego. As an application language, outside of a few demo cases, Swift is a hard downgrade from ObjC, and perhaps the quality of recent Apple software shows it. There's more Swift than ever in Apple's OSes. Anyone can code -- especially those unexperienced interns who seem to love Swift!
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I don't really get your frustration. Is someone forcing you to learn Swift all this years. No. Is someone forcing you now? No. Once in a while platform need to reinvent itself, yes it costly but it pays in a long run. Swift is safer more approachable language with much more expressiveness.

The only way to evolve language at certain points is to make it public. They kept it private as long as they could, for many years.
 
[AUT] Thomas said:
This is an iOS 13 issue, not limited to iOS 13.2. I have this on iOS 13 since the beginning...
Also, it's more prominent on iPads than phones (don't ask me why). My iPad mini 5 barely can handle multiple open tabs. Browsing a site with endless scrolling under iOS 13 stalls Safari halfway (if at all) compared to where it would freeze/become laggy on iOS 12.
Closing other apps doesn't necessarily help.

IMHO: iPadOS 13 has inferior memory management or a major memory leak somewhere.

That said, I've background app refresh completely disable on all my iOS devices.
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That is true. I had this with iOS 12 too on my iPad but wasn’t so worse. With iOS 13 it was worse and iOS 13.2 completely destroyed multitasking on all devices.
 
iOS 13.2 is still fairly rubbish. CarPlay is lagging a lot, randomly freezing and locking up, Siri not working randomly. Then on my phone all sorts of random stuff is going on. Before I had a 1 minute lag between pressing the torch button and the torch coming on.... Not impressed after how good iOS 12 was.
 
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oldmacs said:
iOS 13.2 is still fairly rubbish. CarPlay is lagging a lot, randomly freezing and locking up, Siri not working randomly. Then on my phone all sorts of random stuff is going on. Before I had a 1 minute lag between pressing the torch button and the torch coming on.... Not impressed after how good iOS 12 was.
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My biggest gripe with CarPlay is of course a little thing that has become a MAJOR annoyance. When I’m about to reach my destination sometimes I’ll go ahead and end the turn by turn .....in order to do that there’s this stupid delay between hitting the little arrow and when you can tap the giant END button. You always have to wait a second.
 
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Wokis said:
Youtube has been an issue since the beginning of this iOS 13.0+ fiasco. I pay for premium so I have background play available but even so it can decide to kill off the app while I'm doing something else. Not cool. Apple needs to think over it's RAM management and sell new products with decent amounts of RAM to begin with.
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This is google fiasco. Everything on myXS works ok, no reloads. I'm not using google aps.
 
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jonnyb098 said:
My biggest gripe with CarPlay is of course a little thing that has become a MAJOR annoyance. When I’m about to reach my destination sometimes I’ll go ahead and end the turn by turn .....in order to do that there’s this stupid delay between hitting the little arrow and when you can tap the giant END button. You always have to wait a second.
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Waiting a second is your biggest gripe?
 
This would explain why I got notified to restart nomorobo this morning. Annoying.
 
timme said:
please fix this Apple, it’s anoying
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This is not apple, ask google for update their aps.
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[AUT] Thomas said:
This is an iOS 13 issue, not limited to iOS 13.2. I have this on iOS 13 since the beginning...
Also, it's more prominent on iPads than phones (don't ask me why). My iPad mini 5 barely can handle multiple open tabs. Browsing a site with endless scrolling under iOS 13 stalls Safari halfway (if at all) compared to where it would freeze/become laggy on iOS 12.
Closing other apps doesn't necessarily help.

IMHO: iPadOS 13 has inferior memory management or a major memory leak somewhere.

That said, I've background app refresh completely disable on all my iOS devices.
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No issue in my XS. So it's not iOS13 issue.
 
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I spoke to a very nice Apple representative yesterday, who actually took the time to test this on their Xs Max while we were on the phone. She was able to confirm it happened to her as well. She then transferred me to a senior adviser who said he would forward my report to engineering. I’m sure they have received other reports as well.
 
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XXPP said:
This is google fiasco. Everything on myXS works ok, no reloads. I'm not using google aps.
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I read this post and at the same time I listen to Marco (dev of overcast) in his podcast mention there is nothing they can currently can do about this issue as there is no API or documentation on what has changed with the memory management in 13. The OS just kills stuff. It is an Apple issue, it is not relegated to only Google apps and I maintain it likely stems in the long running issue that Apple is asking developers to perform miracles with RAM management rather than just fork up the dollars to actually put in decent amount of memory in their devices to begin with.
 
Well. Great. Now I get the message in the feedback app that because of an error it couldn’t send my feedback report and now everything I wrote is deleted. If someone ever again tells me that iOS doesn’t have problems... 😡 And downloading and updating apps from the store is nearly impossible
 
Today I setup a Huawei P30 lite for my mother and I was totally flashed. A 250€ device that ships with dual sim, 128GB flash storage, OLED and USB-C port.With swipe gestures enabled there is nearly no difference to iOS navigation. It has a brilliant display/camera and it feels rather lightweight in comparison to my current iPhoneX which bothers me with bugs, bugs and more bugs. And there is no Notch (just a very small cutout)!

- In the year 12 after first iPhone release iOS is still not capable of OOB (Bluetooth/Smart) except when pairing with other Apple devices like Apple TV.
- As a developer I have to bang my head against artificial Apple walls every day.
- There is still no way to select a music title I own for a ringtone (or just a short sequence of a music title).
- There is still no USB-C port on even the latest iPhone models.

For all of this you have to pay a heavy price. Think a P30 Pro is going to be my next Phone and I'm starting to understand Donald Trump since Huawei would wipe the floor with Apple if Trump doesn't stop Huawei by banning it (and if not already this year, then maybe the next year).
 
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Judging by some of comments it must be a Samsung/Hynix issue since they manufacture the DRAM. And, if Safari is reloading blame it on Al Gore.
 
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VSMacOne said:
I refuse to believe that this is intentional. It HAS to be a bug, otherwise this is a HUGE step backwards.
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There's a large spectrum between "intentional" and "bug", which includes "unintended side effects / consequences of intentional changes". I'd guess more likely that the problem lies in that middle ground.

Regardless, this doesn't speak well of Apple's regression testing of late.
 
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