Complaints Mounting About iOS 13.2 Being 'More Aggressive at Killing Background Apps and Tasks'

[LastStarfighter]

Is there a simple way to go back to 13.1.1 or whatever the last version was before 13.2?

Please Apple. Fix this asap. My iPad Pro is no longer a device I can actually do anything productive on utilising more than one task.

 

[jonnyb098]

Do you not have to wait like 10 seconds for the CarPlay splash screen to go away when you plug the phone in? Dunno if it's just the car I use it with, but that alone is enough to make me use the aux instead.

Splash screen? I have nothing of the sort in my Ford. It just pops up a few seconds after plugging into the USB port.

 

[stylinexpat]

Shocked this has still gone unpatched. Every app on my iPad is reloading. Fix this **** Apple.

Same here, it’s pretty pathetic. It’s not just the iPad but iPhones as well. If Apple added for 4GB more of RAM would it be the end of Apple’s profit margins..? Not sure why they are so freakin stingy with RAM

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

Not here they don’t

Any company would be foolish to not monitor popular sites that discuss their products. So I think they read. The question is, do they care?

 

[I7guy]

Any company would be foolish to not monitor popular sites that discuss their products. So I think they read. The question is, do they care?

It depends. I would like to believe Apple would want to fix core software issues. Maybe not address sour gripes complaints.

 

[ct2k7]

iOS 13.2... wow is it just crap.

Now my battery, WiFi and signal bar isn’t sticking in the top.

 

[Wando64]

Are you one of those people who settles for mediocrity and don't demand better from companies. Why settle for 2-4 GB RAM when you can have more? I have noticed RAM management issues since IOS 11, and it had stayed that way since IOS 12, and it got worse recently, so this has clearly been an issue of needing more RAM if it had been prevalent for 2 years. Apple can optimise their OS all they want, but more RAM is needed, especially when they are introducing more cameras that are calibrated to match each other and more features like deep fusion. It's common sense that the OS gets heavier. I have the 6GM RAM ipad pro model, and it kept more apps open on IOS 13.2, so 6GB RAM should be the sweet spot, not 4GB. Enjoy your MacOS then, and stop telling us that we don't need more RAM. You don't make any sense at all.

OK, let me spell it for you nice and slowly and see if it makes sense.

Before 13.2 everything was fine.
From 13.2 the apps management broke.

You can blame RAM till the cows come home, but it looks pretty simple to me.


Separate subject altogether: Do I wish my devices had more RAM? You bet, but it has nothing to do with today’s problem.

 

[[AUT] Thomas]

- In the year 12 after first iPhone release iOS is still not capable of OOB (Bluetooth/Smart) except when pairing with other Apple devices like Apple TV.
- As a developer I have to bang my head against artificial Apple walls every day.
- There is still no way to select a music title I own for a ringtone (or just a short sequence of a music title).
- There is still no USB-C port on even the latest iPhone models.

Forget about Bluetooth stack on an iOS device. It is still crippled to a level that a 10 year old windows mobile device has better support. And that won't change as Apple just doesn't care...
Also, iOS is still a joke in terms of customization. Now we have Dark Mode! Great job. How about user-defined color mode? Windows 10 Themes/appearance to name the most basic way of doing this...
=> Don't expect this to ever happen on iOS. Apples approach is to have a very defined look & feel of iOS that the user has to like -or deal with it.
Personally, I deal with it, knowing it could be done much better.

Regarding the Huawei that I removed from the quote above: In the Apple world you pay for other priviliges... such as actual security and privacy. And device support for more than 1 year.

I deeply regret upgrading to ios 13. It is so buggy. My Microsoft Outlook worked quickly in my iPad Pro 9.7. Now, it is slow as a pig.. Sad!

Well... right after Safari, Outlook is probably the biggest memory hog on iOS. That app is a behemoth of (inefficient) code, as such a good app to benchmark the devices performance... XD

Is there a simple way to go back to 13.1.1 or whatever the last version was before 13.2?

I doubt that's going to fix it. I run 13.1.1 atm and have the same issues... This is a iOS 13 issue that seems to have intensified with 13.2 (which I luckily haven't installed yet).

 

[sebastian666]

I created a very basic example for an app refresh bug on iOS 13.2. In this case I created a basic so-called progressive web app, which is created by adding a website shortcut to your home screen.

After reopening the app it gets refreshed and the current state (in this case user input) is lost. There is no way, that this is the intended behaviour.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1190676352141348864

I seriously recommend to wait for the next update, and check out the user feedback first, before you update yourself!

EDIT: I develop apps for business use cases, so in case any developer reads this, who has a clue what's going on our knows a workaround, PLEASE let me know about your opinion.

 

[Babygotfont]

OK, let me spell it for you nice and slowly and see if it makes sense.

Before 13.2 everything was fine.
From 13.2 the apps management broke.

You can blame RAM till the cows come home, but it looks pretty simple to me.


Separate subject altogether: Do I wish my devices had more RAM? You bet, but it has nothing to do with today’s problem.

13.0 and .1 had severe modem LTE/WiFi issues thoroughly discussed on Reddit ... 13.2beta4 updates the modem which fixed my data/connectivity issues

 

[brucemr]

IOS 13 supported iPhones RAM:
6s, 7, 8 2GB (Plus size 3GB). X, XR 3GB. XS, 11, 11Pro 4GB.

iOS 13 has to provide a reasonably good user experience on devices with 2GB RAM, including the iPads supported. 2GB RAM is by no means “old” regrading iOS 13 support. iPhone 8 is only 2 years old...and still being sold. iPad 6th gen 2 GB is only slightly older.

Hard to believe adding 3rd camera on 11Pro makes 4GB too little. Especially when many posters are having issues with camera app not even open.

Something else must going on.

 

[WilliamG]

This issue is driving me insane. I had Reddit app open, switched to Safari for a minute or two, switched back to Reddit and the whole thing refreshed like it was opening for the first time, and I lost of a bunch of text. This sort of thing is happening all the time now.

Another example is messaging photos to contacts. Instead of the phone number for a contact I’ve typed the name of appearing immediately, it’s showing three dots for a few seconds or so, and eventually then shows the phone number. This happens all the time, like the Contacts app is being dumped from memory so often.

I hope this gets addressed soon because using my fancy new iPhone 11 Pro Max is insufferably annoying now.

 

[alexandr]

yea, this is legit crap. had an email open with concert tix. turned the screen off. turned it on to show at will call - i was back in my inbox. considering i bought these tix a half year ago - it was an inconvenience)

 

[Tech198]

Can you really blame anyone for this ? Apple is firing people like rabbits and/or hiring others from inexperienced.

Or iOS 13.x is just a big bug.

I told ya.. 13 is an unlucky number

 

[LastStarfighter]

I doubt that's going to fix it. I run 13.1.1 atm and have the same issues... This is a iOS 13 issue that seems to have intensified with 13.2 (which I luckily haven't installed yet).

it was fine for me in terms of the issue this thread is about before I upgraded to 13.2. No issues with aggressive RAM clearing on background apps. I could watch a YouTube video in a safari tab and switch out of safari to do something else, come back in and resume the video right where i left off.

 

[sunapple]

Whatever, I’ve never notic- OH GOD it really is terrible... 😤

I’m now considering going upstairs to my Mac for doing a basic task like looking for a car in one app and researching the models in Safari. The first app resets to default, loosing my search filters and position on the list, while Safari seems to just forget all tabs.

Safe to assume any multi-app use case is affected judging from the article.

 

[Ramchi]

I am not sure I am testing this correctly but my apps don’t get killed by the iOS, and I could get back where I left in the editing between Safari(this post half edited stage), edge(another web post half edited stage) and YouTube video, I have iPhone 11 128 GB, having 13.2, I don’t see my post getting killed by the iOS!! It did happen only when I manually kill Safari our YouTube, it gets reloaded!

 

[fredrik9]

I am not sure I am testing this correctly but my apps don’t get killed by the iOS, and I could get back where I left in the editing between Safari(this post half edited stage), edge(another web post half edited stage) and YouTube video, I have iPhone 11 128 GB, having 13.2, I don’t see my post getting killed by the iOS!! It did happen only when I manually kill Safari our YouTube, it gets reloaded!

You are lucky then! No, I agree this problem is a bit random, sometimes my apps stay open but it seems like apps reload randomly more often when the user has only switched to one other app. I had filled in some text fields in Safari and then switched to another app and back again and all I had filled in was gone and I had been logged out of the site after just 10 minutes or something. So I had to log back in and refill everything. Stuff like that makes you really mad, when you have to redo a lot of work that you thought you’d finished. It really seems like something is broken with the memory allocation in 13.2. It is not a big bug but a bug that causes a lot of frustration.

 

[spacehippo]

Definitely feels random. I've noticed it since I mostly use Safari on my iPhone 8 to read and if I switch apps for a few minutes and get back, Safari's forgotten where I was and reloads the page again. But other times it remembers. It used to remember webpage position a lot longer before. But this happens randomly but often.

Same thing with things like games which I could switch to before and it didn't restart them but now a few minutes away and you get the startup screens on games like Pokemon Go. And then other times it stays in memory longer.

All I know is that I've switched to Apple Books to read anything longer, saving things to PDF and EPUB because Apple Books seems to remember the position better than Safari.

 

[Ramchi]

You are lucky then! No, I agree this problem is a bit random, sometimes my apps stay open but it seems like apps reload randomly more often when the user has only switched to one other app. I had filled in some text fields in Safari and then switched to another app and back again and all I had filled in was gone and I had been logged out of the site after just 10 minutes or something. So I had to log back in and refill everything. Stuff like that makes you really mad, when you have to redo a lot of work that you thought you’d finished. It really seems like something is broken with the memory allocation in 13.2. It is not a big bug but a bug that causes a lot of frustration.

Just now looked at my YouTube after many hours, I could restart from where I have left! Certainly I can’t blame iOS 13.2 !!

Probably, this issue occurring for those who keep open too many apps with lots of actions where state needs to be stored in the memory gets maxed out! I don’t keep too many apps in the memory often

 

[jonnyb098]

By X.2 iOS is supposed to be damn near rock solid. Now most of us cant even switch between apps or come back to where we left off on our devices without constant app refreshing. Last night I set up some music to fall asleep to on my iPad Pro and after a handful of songs the music just stopped. I got up and saw that music app was flushed from memory and had to reload. Un-*****-believable. They are literally gimping devices instead of making them better. Add to that the HomePod debacle. SMH🤦‍♂️

Im so glad Apple is getting bad press all over the place even on the national news sites. Maybe it’ll kick their butts into gear.

Makes me wonder if people were unable to watch or come back to their beloved TV+ shows without the app crashing if Apple would fix it overnight. HAH!

As of right now it’s like most of us are using iPads and iPhones circa 2010 with limited/no multitasking.

 

[TrueBlou]

Same here, it’s pretty pathetic. It’s not just the iPad but iPhones as well. If Apple added for 4GB more of RAM would it be the end of Apple’s profit margins..? Not sure why they are so freakin stingy with RAM

They don’t need more RAM really, they just need to fix the - I see bad word - code they messed up in these updates.

iOS is incredibly memory efficient, or at least, it should be. This is fixable and they need to make it a top priority to do so - ASAP.
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Just now looked at my YouTube after many hours, I could restart from where I have left! Certainly I can’t blame iOS 13.2 !!

Probably, this issue occurring for those who keep open too many apps with lots of actions where state needs to be stored in the memory gets maxed out! I don’t keep too many apps in the memory often

I don’t know if that’s the case, or at least not for everyone. For example, I just closed every app from my task switcher, I am left with Safari with 1 tab open and the Amazon app.

Switch to Amazon, do a search, switch back to Safari and do a search for a product, back into Amazon and the app reloaded with my search results gone.

That is by no means normal, there’s nothing taking up huge swathes of memory or anything else. It’s two basic apps performing two simple tasks.

If that’s not an issue with iOS 13.2 memory management, then I don’t know what is.

 

[scjr]

Just now looked at my YouTube after many hours, I could restart from where I have left! Certainly I can’t blame iOS 13.2 !!

Probably, this issue occurring for those who keep open too many apps with lots of actions where state needs to be stored in the memory gets maxed out! I don’t keep too many apps in the memory often

I tested it with Safari with just two tabs open, nothing else in the app switcher and it reloads like clockwork.

If you keep one app open in memory, you may be fine. If you have an additional app open and Safari, as an example and you walk away from the device and return, it will reload Safari. This behavior wasn’t present in 13.1.3.

 

[imagineadam]

I tested it with Safari with just two tabs open, nothing else in the app switcher and it reloads like clockwork.

If you keep one app open in memory, you may be fine. If you have an additional app open and Safari, as an example and you walk away from the device and return, it will reload Safari. This behavior wasn’t present in 13.1.3.

Hopefully 13.2.2 Monday with the first fix stating,

-Addresses and issue that could cause safari to crash more frequently.

I’d also like to see,

-Addresses an issue where photos curating would get stuck indefinitely.

-Resolved a problem where photos within an iMessage thread will actually finish indexing before the release of iOS 14.

 

[stylinexpat]

I tested it with Safari with just two tabs open, nothing else in the app switcher and it reloads like clockwork.

If you keep one app open in memory, you may be fine. If you have an additional app open and Safari, as an example and you walk away from the device and return, it will reload Safari. This behavior wasn’t present in 13.1.3.

Definitely a problem and low Ram does not help any