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Complete 'iPhone 5' Front Panel and 4" Screen Photos

r.harris1 said:
As a developer across iOS and Android platforms and a frequent user of both (dog food eating), I'm struggling to understand what people mean by "innovation" when they suggest Apple isn't doing it.
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The only thing I can figure at this point is people want tail fins on their phone.
 
charlituna said:
you may be shocked to find that the vast majority has zero issue with the physical shape and UI being the same while the internal power is increased. In fact they prefer that a company not revamp the design just to call everything new but rather 'tweak' to create a better product. And they don't need huge tweaks that don't really result in huge increases or use potentially unstable tech instead of more solid offerings.

And that is why, as you say, Apple will still sell millions of their 'crappy' phone
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If you are really OK with just incremental power increases you could just buy Android phone (like SG III) and be happy. Way more power than iPhone. Why wait for Apple? And iPhone 5 will not match Android phone specs anyways.
 
I still don't see the taller screen as likely. It's probably a decoy to divert attention. I remember up until the day before the 4S came out, there were so many people sure of a new design, and one site even ha da mockup and was 100% sure what they had was the iPhone 5. There were so many "leaks" back then too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFmHxz5n8qs

i) Apple is unlikely to change resolution and aspect ratio, because they've gone to great efforts to keep these things consistent so far. A change may come at some point, but I personally doubt it'd be for a taller screen. Maybe a move to a 4.x" 1920x1280 screen a generation or two down the line?

ii) Why do we want a larger screen? I think so that everything is larger and clearer, and I don't think that this is accomplished with a slightly taller screen. Browsing, for example, would be much the same experience. So if this objective is not really being met, why mess up over half a million apps?

iii) The purported resolution of 1152x640 is a little wider than 16:9. So it's not a proper widescreen device for video content, it's not the original aspect ratio for apps, basically, it doesn't fit anything right! Almost everything will need bars on the sides, and this seems like the worst kind of compromise.
 
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kodeman53 said:
We are so lucky to have such a smart person as you sharing your remarkable insight with us. I sure hope when Apple hires you to replace Tim Cook you will still drop in here to continue to share your wisdom.
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Yes, ur welcome. I try to help people understand logic. Is hard sometimes.

If I was to be offered job of Tim Cook, even tho I can improve his work greatly, not sure I would take the job. I would rather design and think instead of be just a guy on conference call talking politics. So I would likely refuse position even if they beg.

:apple:
 
mcman77 said:
what for? So you can brush it off cause its not an infringing patent lol

You stated that you do not like copy cats....but you're backing apple. I'm just saying that everyone has their fair share of taking ideas, or being inspired as they put it.
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Feel free to quote that statement lol because as far as I'm aware I didn't state anything... I simply agreed with another poster's post. And where does it say I back apple? I would back anyone standing for what is of their own creation and trying to protect it. And I also said you're more than welcome to list that list (that, you CAN quote) because honestly, I would like to know for knowing's sake.

Ps: some robitussin may help with that cough you got there..
 
Jb07 said:
Did I press someone's buttons today? You could've been a little bit nicer.:)

A. VERY FEW people care about the new iPhone or a new Android phone. The average person doesn't come on rumor sites and read up on the latest gadget.

B. QUESTION: How do you know what goes on in Apple's, Samsung's, or Motorola's labs? How do you know Motorola isn't beta testing 20 Android devices right now? Answer: YOU DON'T.

Try again.
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He's right though. Apple leaks are far more valuable than others (so there's an increased effort to get them), or do you think rumor sites don't operate to make a profit?

Also, you didn't understand his second point. Before a phone or any product is released, there is a pre-release production run. This run is designed to stock store shelves and attempt to satisfy initial demand. He isn't talking about beta testing a few new phone models, he's saying that they are literally mass producing the new iPhone right now by the millions, so it's not surprising that there are some leaks. The Galaxy SIII was the first Android phone to have a pre-release production run similar to the iPhone in magnitude, but it will be dwarved by this run considering each model of the iPhone thus far as sold more than all other models combined.
 
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charlituna said:
You mean like how we got a teardrop phone last year. All those leaks etc of that one weren't wro--

Oh yeah, right
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There was no leked parts
Of a teardtop phone, just rumour and iphone case manufacturers took a gamble and got alot made up
 
nick_elt said:
There was no leked parts
Of a teardtop phone, just rumour and iphone case manufacturers took a gamble and got alot made up
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Exactly,

Nothing, not even one part of that teardrop phone leaked.

On the other hand though the 4S antennae band leaked back in like February 2011.
 
If the new iPhone turns out to be totally different and this was apples way of fooling s, then I will have a new found respect for Tim cook.
 
cammonro said:
Glad I purchased the iPhone 4S last year and didn't wait. I have no need for a longer iPhone. The current size is perfect. Where am I putting that thing? I'm a guy. I don't carry a purse. I've never envied those large Droid phones I've seen people cart around.
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Guys definitely need the new iPhone L. Put it in that front pocket and impress the girls. :eek::D

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Bistroengine said:
Actually, it's been revealed already that Steve Jobs was highly involved with the design of the next iPhone before he passed away.
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More likely the next five and the next five iPads and iPods plus a good to years of the computers, displays and AppleTV.

Tech doesn't develop overnight. Might be a good 5-10 years before we see things out of Apple that Steve had no part in.
 
charlituna said:
you may be shocked to find that the vast majority has zero issue with the physical shape and UI being the same while the internal power is increased. In fact they prefer that a company not revamp the design just to call everything new but rather 'tweak' to create a better product. And they don't need huge tweaks that don't really result in huge increases or use potentially unstable tech instead of more solid offerings.

And that is why, as you say, Apple will still sell millions of their 'crappy' phone
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I'll take two of those crappy phones on day one
 
AZREOSpecialist said:
Have you also considered that maybe Tim Cook is not very competent at steering his ship? I mean, if the CEO stated publicly that he is "doubling down" on secrecy and since then we have had all of these leaks, I can only surmise that he is not a very good manager. The other missteps with retail staff layoffs and the EPEAT fiasco shows that Cook doesn't have as tight a grip on things as his predecessor.

Apple was Steve's life work. For Cook, it's just a job. We need to get used to that.
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Have you considered that these things could have happened even if Steve was here.
 
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Same pixel density ?

thats a perfect reason them not to upgrade..... While other reports have mentioned higher resolution,, how can you have higher resolution at the same pixel density ?

May mean more room at 4" but so what ? if there are no extra pixels, then its the same resolution...

Unless that rumor has now changed.
 
paradox00 said:
He's right though. Apple leaks are far more valuable than others (so there's an increased effort to get them), or do you think rumor sites don't operate to make a profit?

Also, you didn't even understand his second point. Before a phone or any product is released, there is a pre-release production run. This run is designed to stock store shelves and attempt to satisfy initial demand. He isn't talking about beta testing a few new phone models, he's saying that they are literally mass producing the new iPhone right now by the millions, so it's not surprising that there are some leaks. The Galaxy SIII was the first Android phone to have a pre-release production run similar to the iPhone in magnitude, but it will be dwarved by this run considering each model of the iPhone thus far as sold more than all other models combined.
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Interestingly, Samsung has begun to prune its model lines so that it can follow Apple's more profitable manufacturing, sales and support model, and it will be interesting to see if in fact the availability of larger screen sizes on Android OEM"s translates to an increase in share over Apple's. Somehow, I suspect that iPhone sales will continue on pace as you suggest.

I would note that Apple's 8 inch mini iPad will bolster Apple tablet sales against Nexus 7, and whatever other loss leaders that Android OEM's can produce, and that many pining for a larger iPhone may be satisfies with a smaller iPad + iPhone 5.

I would be interested to find what percentage of females purchase the larger screen Android phones, as my gut instinct is that few do.
 
charlituna said:
Have you considered that these things could have happened even if Steve was here.
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But these things DID happen when Steve was here. Every year parts from the iPhone leak.

iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S. Every. Year.

Apple is big enough that people risk losing their job to sneak one of the MILLIONS of iPhone parts out of the factory to show the world.

Something that small, that popular has to get produced in BULK way before launch. These leaks are inevitable.

I just wish everyone could understand that these part leaks happen every year and that this is the new iPhone we've been seeing. But very few can grasp that....
 
batting1000 said:
The Galaxy S series has a tired design too.
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Not sure I get you here, The S3 has a radically different design to previous S series phones.The S, S Advance and S2 were all similar but the S3 is a totally new design so how can it be labelled tired?

What people are pointing out here is that Apple change very little with new iterations, something a lot of people actually prefer.
 
Now that we have leaked photos of the complete front panel are there any dimensions (height/width) to go along with it?
I would be interested to see how it compares overall to the 4s size wise but without focusing entirely on the screen size or ratio
 
Tech198 said:
Same pixel density ?

thats a perfect reason them not to upgrade..... While other reports have mentioned higher resolution,, how can you have higher resolution at the same pixel density ?

May mean more room at 4" but so what ? if there are no extra pixels, then its the same resolution...

Unless that rumor has now changed.
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Pixel density (PPI) is based on the resolution as it relates to the physical size of the display.

960x640 @ 3.5" = ~326PPI

1132x640 @ 4.0" = ~326PPI

Same PPI, the 4.0" display has higher resolution, more pixels, more screen real estate.
 
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