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Frankly, seeing the direction that Apple is clearly heading with their product line, I'm a bit afraid of any major changes to the desktop line.
 
There has been no reduction of inventory in the US stores which usually indicates an incoming shipment of new models. So it is not likely going to be this week.

But you're welcome to call your local Apple Store & inquire 3-5 times per day for an update.
 
I think like many people July will be the final straw. I've waited a silly amount of time now and yeah I guess originally it was my fault. I got my first graduate job last October and suddenly had the money to finally afford an iMac after years of being a poor student.... but I thought I'd wait a few months because it can't be that long until an new model is released - 5 months maybe?

It's now been 9 and I'm in desperate need of a new computer. Yeah people say just buy the current iMac or get an MBP but considering I've already waited this long I am a tad peeved. I had a serious convo with a friend today about just biting the bullet and building myself a decent gaming rig which would also be able to do the work stuff I require. Yeah a move to windows but unless apple does something this July I might have to just do it. Maybe we're all over-reacting and apple always planned to just update along with ML and if they do.... then fair enough.... although 450 days is still quite a long time.
 
I think like many people July will be the final straw. I've waited a silly amount of time now and yeah I guess originally it was my fault. I got my first graduate job last October and suddenly had the money to finally afford an iMac after years of being a poor student.... but I thought I'd wait a few months because it can't be that long until an new model is released - 5 months maybe?

It's now been 9 and I'm in desperate need of a new computer. Yeah people say just buy the current iMac or get an MBP but considering I've already waited this long I am a tad peeved. I had a serious convo with a friend today about just biting the bullet and building myself a decent gaming rig which would also be able to do the work stuff I require. Yeah a move to windows but unless apple does something this July I might have to just do it. Maybe we're all over-reacting and apple always planned to just update along with ML and if they do.... then fair enough.... although 450 days is still quite a long time.

Your last straw should be October. But I realistically think September is end game for any Mac refreshes for 2012. They don't update Macs in November or December. And since 2011, October is now reserved for the new iPhone. Apple never lets the Mac get in the way of any new iPad or iPhone release.
 
Your last straw should be October. But I realistically think September is end game for any Mac refreshes for 2012. They don't update Macs in November or December. And October is reserved for the new iPhone. Apple never lets the Mac get in the way of any new iPad or iPhone release.

I have a tonne of work to get done by September and apparently theres some major sporting event happening in London at the end of July thats gonna completely screw my commute to work... so I'll have to work at home... and my current laptop seriously wont cope with that. Of course the current 2011 iMac will cope... but I'd just feel duped if i bought it now.
 
I have a tonne of work to get done by September and apparently theres some major sporting event happening in London at the end of July thats gonna completely screw my commute to work... so I'll have to work at home... and my current laptop seriously wont cope with that. Of course the current 2011 iMac will cope... but I'd just feel duped if i bought it now.

Yea, I understand your dilemma. It should also be worth noting the 2010 iMac came out at the end of July as well so there may be hope still yet for a sooner than later release.
 
Yea, I understand your dilemma. It should also be worth noting the 2010 iMac came out at the end of July as well so there may be hope still yet for a sooner than later release.

That's promising. Was it released out of the blue or alongside an OS or conference?
 
That's promising. Was it released out of the blue or alongside an OS or conference?

Yes, true to form, Apple treated it with a silent release without any fanfare other than the sudden update on the website front page. There was no OS X release that year either. I think it just had the usual supply shortage reports leading up to the release. But thats what makes this upcoming release a little elusive since we haven't been hearing a stream of concrete supply shortages yet.

Anyway, It came out over a full month after the iPhone 4 so that's why I don't believe it will come out in October at all. iPhone always get that entire month in the spotlight. It's gotta come out by September, latest.
 
Yes, true to form, Apple treated it with a silent release without any fanfare other than the sudden update on the website front page. There was no OS X release that year either. I think it just had the usual supply shortage reports leading up to the release. But thats what makes this upcoming release a little elusive since we haven't been hearing a stream of concrete supply shortages yet.

Anyway, It came out over a full month after the iPhone 4 so that's why I don't believe it will come out in October at all. iPhone always get that entire month in the spotlight. It's gotta come out by September, latest.

I'll guess we'll find out in 2 or 3 weeks then... can only hope...
 
bla bla bla...

We know the MPB retina struggles pushing pixels so current GPUs won't drive a 27" iMac retina.

CPU?

No, Apple could have put in the latest flavor from intel without much trouble.

So, what's all this delay about? No real tower updates for ever, an iMac over a year old with not even USB 3.0. If Apple is waiting for an uber iMac redesign with retina and desktop class GPUs in 2013 it would have made much more sense to soft bump the iMac at WWDC and then by mid-2013 release the new uber retina iMac.

It makes no sense to leave the iMac untouched for over a year.

Its not the GPU that cant drive the MBP retina efficiently, its the OS coding and how it uses the GPU. There is a lot more CPU involvement than most people realize (or than there should be) when you're zooming and moving around windows in most desktop operating systems. From what I understand, those are the situations where people are noticing the slowdown. I suspect they're relying on the CPU too much to push the 2D side of whats going on.

The ipad retina has many times less graphics-processing-horsepower-per-pixel than the rMBP, and that toy runs just fine. But the iOS was so simple (it's basically an app launcher...) that they were quick to optimize it.

And I dont know what planet you've been on, but I've seen some pretty terrible spec'd (low end and low memory) cards from several years ago able to drive dual monitors at very high res. It's absurd to suggest that the current GT6-- series cards couldnt handle it if they were used correctly.

I still dont want retina. Gimme matte anti-reflective and keep the current resolution.
 
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I think like many people July will be the final straw. I've waited a silly amount of time now and yeah I guess originally it was my fault. I got my first graduate job last October and suddenly had the money to finally afford an iMac after years of being a poor student.... but I thought I'd wait a few months because it can't be that long until an new model is released - 5 months maybe?

It's now been 9 and I'm in desperate need of a new computer. Yeah people say just buy the current iMac or get an MBP but considering I've already waited this long I am a tad peeved. I had a serious convo with a friend today about just biting the bullet and building myself a decent gaming rig which would also be able to do the work stuff I require. Yeah a move to windows but unless apple does something this July I might have to just do it. Maybe we're all over-reacting and apple always planned to just update along with ML and if they do.... then fair enough.... although 450 days is still quite a long time.

Exactly like you I am waiting from January.
And like you I have a defective laptop.
I can tell you, that if you waited this long, to buy iMac now, with full money, will be a stupid move.
I can suggest you two options :
1) you can build a pc machine, but then why did you wait for the Mac in the first place?
2) If you don't need heavy video editing or heavy gfx editing, I would go with some second hand Macbookpro, this can give you the apple experience and 2010 laptop cost on eBay about 600 dollars.

All this options I would consider in August.

And not in this critical month, where legitimly apple can bring ( as it does in the past) the new iMac with new OS.
 
Exactly like you I am waiting from January.
And like you I have a defective laptop.
I can tell you, that if you waited this long, to buy iMac now, with full money, will be a stupid move.
I can suggest you two options :
1) you can build a pc machine, but then why did you wait for the Mac in the first place?
2) If you don't need heavy video editing or heavy gfx editing, I would go with some second hand Macbookpro, this can give you the apple experience and 2010 laptop cost on eBay about 600 dollars.

All this options I would consider in August.

And not in this critical month, where legitimly apple can bring ( as it does in the past) the new iMac with new OS.


I guess I'm starting to realise that I could probably cope with a pc. The only things putting me off are that, with a built pc I' have no support if something goes wrong. Also I'm just more used to mac OSX and I reckon having to worry about viruses might start getting to me
 
This discussion is good!
I hope the people from apple kann feel the pressure from the customers. They should simply hurry up to bring the imac upgrade on the market.

In October comes Win8, and if there is no imac upgrade on the market, I am going to compare W8 All-in-on-PC vs current imac (for office work).

Apple listen to Your customers!!
 
I guess I'm starting to realise that I could probably cope with a pc. The only things putting me off are that, with a built pc I' have no support if something goes wrong. Also I'm just more used to mac OSX and I reckon having to worry about viruses might start getting to me

If support ( something rarely needed) is the reason you buy Mac, and not because of the :
Usability, hub multimedia to the iOS gadgets, objective c, photo and video editing.

I wouldn't wait and buy PC and that's it.

I would wait through July though, no matter what ..
 
This discussion is good!
I hope the people from apple kann feel the pressure from the customers. They should simply hurry up to bring the imac upgrade on the market.

In October comes Win8, and if there is no imac upgrade on the market, I am going to compare W8 All-in-on-PC vs current imac (for office work).

Apple listen to Your customers!!

Whatever plans Apple has for upgrading the iMac won't be affected one bit by what you, I, or anyone else says here. This is all about venting frustration and, for some, exploring alternatives like upgrading components on their current Mac or building/buying a Windows-based computer.
 
Major sporting event = Olympics? :rolleyes:

Indeed. I was being sarcastic :p

If support ( something rarely needed) is the reason you buy Mac, and not because of the :
Usability, hub multimedia to the iOS gadgets, objective c, photo and video editing.

I wouldn't wait and buy PC and that's it.

I would wait through July though, no matter what ..

Yup July is the plan. Birthday at end of of the month and if nothing buy then I'll just get a PC
 
I'm not that in to apple stuff, but wouldn it not be smart for apple, to make some "teasers" for the costumers?
They will lose many customers: nothing to hear from them?

It never ceases to amaze me how the laymen of these boards seems to have a clearer perspective on Apple's strategic and financial decisions than the employees of worlds most valuable company. Not saying that they can't be wrong, it's just unlikely..
 
It never ceases to amaze me how the laymen of these boards seems to have a clearer perspective on Apple's strategic and financial decisions than the employees of worlds most valuable company. Not saying that they can't be wrong, it's just unlikely..
Apple were wrong many times, in many cases, I think that being secretive on some spec bump, to a computer you sell for 5 years now, with the same form is simply lame.

I agree they should hide the new devices, or events.

But main desktop?
They could say new iMac comin in July.
What is the big prob?

This way you are fair to your loyal customers, they can do their math if they want to buy now or not.
If someone will buy an iMac now, just to find out that in two weeks a new one is coming.....
at that moment ,boom, apple lost another fan.
 
I don't think Apple has to necessarily let us know exactly when new models are coming out, as that would impact the sales of current models. Where they run into problems is when the updates don't happen on at least an annual basis.

Look at the iMac update. Is it coming this month or not until October? Maybe not until next year? By straying from their normal annual update with the occasional semi annual spec bump they have created confusion in the marketplace. That's never a good thing when you're trying to make a sale.
 
Maybe they were concerned that an update cycle that is too regular is equivalent to pre-announcing the release.

If they really want people to just buy without waiting for a new model, then it makes sense to throw the release cycle into the shredder every now and then.
 
But main desktop?
They could say new iMac comin in July.
What is the big prob?

Depends on when you want them to make the announcement. If you wanted them to tell us in December or January when the 2012's were coming out, they very well may have said March, not anticipating delays with Intel and then Nvidia. To a large extent they're at the mercy of their component suppliers, and if they announce a date and miss, particularly by a wide margin, it's even worse.. people aren't buying the old one because the new one is announced, and the new one is months behind schedule. That's a lot of unsold Macs.
 
Apple were wrong many times, in many cases, I think that being secretive on some spec bump, to a computer you sell for 5 years now, with the same form is simply lame.

I agree they should hide the new devices, or events.

But main desktop?
They could say new iMac comin in July.
What is the big prob?

This way you are fair to your loyal customers, they can do their math if they want to buy now or not.
If someone will buy an iMac now, just to find out that in two weeks a new one is coming.....
at that moment ,boom, apple lost another fan.

I'm not sure if this is a great example but look how the video game industry do things with consoles? They don't just announce a meeting and out of the blue announce that the brand new PS4 will begin going on sale immediately. They let people know a year or so in advance and then tease people about it.

Obviously there are serious differences between a console and a computer. Games need to be developed for consoles prior to launch so developers need the console a good year or so before release. Also console lifetimes are generally harder to quantify - sometimes 5 years sometimes longer.

See with the iMacs they've been nice and reliable so apple didnt need to say anything. Yet as the previous poster said the moment they add confusion by breaking from this timeline the console method of at least letting us know something looks quite nice.
 
I'm not sure if this is a great example but look how the video game industry do things with consoles? They don't just announce a meeting and out of the blue announce that the brand new PS4 will begin going on sale immediately. They let people know a year or so in advance and then tease people about it.

Obviously there are serious differences between a console and a computer. Games need to be developed for consoles prior to launch so developers need the console a good year or so before release. Also console lifetimes are generally harder to quantify - sometimes 5 years sometimes longer.

See with the iMacs they've been nice and reliable so apple didnt need to say anything. Yet as the previous poster said the moment they add confusion by breaking from this timeline the console method of at least letting us know something looks quite nice.
Well if they release in July I guess we can delete all this gazilion threads, as they continue the usuall cycle, as expected.
But boy what will happen if not... Geez, havoc!
If I were Tim cook and I didn't release the iMac on July I would have hide..:)
Also on a side note, I don't think that I have ever had a point in my life when months move sooooo slow ....
Apple is definitely distorting time...
 
Depends on when you want them to make the announcement. If you wanted them to tell us in December or January when the 2012's were coming out, they very well may have said March, not anticipating delays with Intel and then Nvidia. To a large extent they're at the mercy of their component suppliers, and if they announce a date and miss, particularly by a wide margin, it's even worse.. people aren't buying the old one because the new one is announced, and the new one is months behind schedule. That's a lot of unsold Macs.

I agree with that to a point. But I think that when hardware has been finalised and manufacturing is a go, there should be some sort of press release or announcement along the lines of "New iMac to be released in July.", without necessarily supplying a specific date. So typically within a month or so of release would be a good time to let people know to get their cash ready.

This way, if current iMac sales drop, it will only be for a short time, and ideally after Apple has ceased or drastically slowed production of current models, so that the remaining few can be substantially discounted for those who don't need or want the latest and greatest.

That's about as fair a compromise as I can consider, and I think that the hater factor would drop significantly.
 
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