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According to Mr. Jobs himself, the definition of a "retina display" is 300 ppi or more. At 2048x1536, the iPad 3 holds only about 260 ppi, so it's technically NOT a "retina display" by Apple's own definition.

Just sayin' :eek:

Edit: Okay, I was too lazy to read through previous posts before but it seems others have also stated this. Haha

Yes. Though since the usual iPad viewing distance is farther than the iPhone's, less ppi is needed to achieve the retina display effect.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohMgjabfiUM&feature=related

According to Mr. Jobs himself, the definition of a "retina display" is 300 ppi or more. At 2048x1536, the iPad 3 holds only about 260 ppi, so it's technically NOT a "retina display" by Apple's own definition.

Just sayin' :eek:

Edit: Okay, I was too lazy to read through previous posts before but it seems others have also stated this. Haha

I think it has more to do with "perceived" pixel density based on viewing distance from the screen than physical ppi...

It could be argued that the iPhone needs a higher pixel density as the viewing distance is usually shorter than that of an iPad.

i.e. the perceived pixel density of an iPhone 4 or 4S held 12" or so away is probably about the same as an iPad held 18"+ away - which is more comfortable for the eyes due to the size of the screen. I don't know many people who would use an iPad as close to their face as they would a phone.

My two cents.

P.s. just an afterthought, this is bringing out that old chestnut of technical specs vs user experience. It could be argued that despite the technical specs being different, the user experience of the screen will be then same between the 4/4S and the iPad 3.
 
P.s. just an afterthought, this is bringing out that old chestnut of technical specs vs user experience. It could be argued that despite the technical specs being different, the user experience of the screen will be then same between the 4/4S and the iPad 3.

for me, as a 'consumer' device, as the iPad generally is, I feel it's all about the experience.

If I was using a workstation to compute overnight, then the numbers become more important.

Everyone is going on about how Jobs originally mentioned the 'Retina' numbers; he also did start to mention viewing distance after the iPad came out - no doubt already aware of this fact.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohMgjabfiUM&feature=related

According to Mr. Jobs himself, the definition of a "retina display" is 300 ppi or more. At 2048x1536, the iPad 3 holds only about 260 ppi, so it's technically NOT a "retina display" by Apple's own definition.

Just sayin' :eek:

Edit: Okay, I was too lazy to read through previous posts before but it seems others have also stated this. Haha

Did you even listen to the video you link? He starts by saying that it turns out there is a limit of about 300 pixels per inch that the human eye can discern at a few inches away. As that distance away increases, the density can lower. So, no, it isn't clear that 260 for the iPad isn't Retina. It's at about the 7:16 mark of your video. He says this applies at 10-12 inches of your eye.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohMgjabfiUM&feature=related

According to Mr. Jobs himself, the definition of a "retina display" is 300 ppi or more. At 2048x1536, the iPad 3 holds only about 260 ppi, so it's technically NOT a "retina display" by Apple's own definition.

Just sayin' :eek:

Edit: Okay, I was too lazy to read through previous posts before but it seems others have also stated this. Haha

Don't forget this all-important qualifier:

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I think it has more to do with "perceived" pixel density based on viewing distance from the screen than physical ppi...

It could be argued that the iPhone needs a higher pixel density as the viewing distance is usually shorter than that of an iPad.

i.e. the perceived pixel density of an iPhone 4 or 4S held 12" or so away is probably about the same as an iPad held 18"+ away - which is more comfortable for the eyes due to the size of the screen. I don't know many people who would use an iPad as close to their face as they would a phone.

My two cents.

P.s. just an afterthought, this is bringing out that old chestnut of technical specs vs user experience. It could be argued that despite the technical specs being different, the user experience of the screen will be then same between the 4/4S and the iPad 3.

True, I didn't take viewing distance into consideration. And I agree, the user experience would probably be the same between the 4/4S and the iPad 3 for most people. The average person who isn't tech-savvy probably takes things like the high PPI for granted, not really understanding how it works. As long as they see a sharper picture, it's a "retina display" for them :eek:
 
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I think current resolution is fine. All I really want on my iPad2 is a row of numbers on the keyboard so I can type normally. I think this is my main bugbear of iOS. Especially when entering passwords or MAC addresses, which I have to do all the time.

But I guess that's not much of a selling point :)
 
Confirmed: iPad 3 Has a 2048x1536 Retina Display
1. Only Apple can officially confirm these things.

2. If someone leaked this kind of info then some NDA was broken. And I hope that person who broke the NDA is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

3. This would be nice IF if was true. It looks to be true. But still NOT 100% confirmed till it comes from the mouth of Apple. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dreaming.
 
So I guess iPhone apps will have to run pixel quadruppled on the iPad now. My old non-retina iPhone apps aren't going to look too good :)
 
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I can't wait. In my job I have to read lots of PDF manuals and a tablet like the ipad was the best solution because ebook readers were too slow to handle the big, and graphic intensive files. But I always wished for a better screen.

And since my 15 months old daughter pretty much confiscated my ipad 1, I can finally have tablet I wanted.. Yippee! :D
 
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the8thark said:
Confirmed: iPad 3 Has a 2048x1536 Retina Display
1. Only Apple can officially confirm these things.

2. If someone leaked this kind of info then some NDA was broken. And I hope that person who broke the NDA is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

3. This would be nice IF if was true. It looks to be true. But still NOT 100% confirmed till it comes from the mouth of Apple. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dreaming.

Why would YOU want them prosecuted???? What on earth has it got to do with you? Also im sure Apple purposely leaks info time to time, beats any advertising agency. Not saying this was leaked by apple but they do it for sure.
 
IF the iPad 3 gets a retina screen then it will be very good. If you are a disbeliever then trust me when I say going from a 3GS to an iPhone 4 and above, you DEFINITELY see a difference, you also see a difference when looking at other phones. I thought it was BS until I got it.
However the res on the iPhone isn't really high because it's only 3.5". So it doesn't take a massive amount of GPU grunt to run. My only concern with an iPads retina, if this resolution is to be believed, is how are they going to power it?
I can only think they'll use the new PowerVR 6 series? But they aren't supposed to be ready? Or I guess a quad core PowerVR chip like the PSVITA uses but can it run a screen with that high a resolution?
 
So seeing as this is clearly a gratuitous gift from apple to mr, and bearing in mind yesterday we were reading how great foxconn is, and the day before Gruber (elsewhere) reported how great mountain lion is, does that mean we can't openly criticize apple here anymore?
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Having an iPhone doesn't make you a photographer

Assuming I use an iPhone for any reason doesnt validate anything you stand for (whatever that may be). More importantly, I'd never use the world's most locked down portable device, i have absolutely NO desire to use an iphone.

But because you seem to present the argument that my equipment for photography is somehow tied to the way i use other devices, i'll let you know that I use a Canon 50D dSLR, a number of Canon L lenses, Alien Bees lights and a plethora of equipment thats mounted to about $5,000 or more.
 
Right… back to the pre-VGA days for you then.
In other words, it’s progress. Accept it or get left behind.

I've said this to other members and I will say it to you as well and make myself as clear as possible:

YOU, nor anyone else (like your idol steve jobs) will ever dictate how I should use any device, piece of software or manage my workflow. To do so is only a sign of extreme arrogance and ignorance. Do you even realize how ignorant your comment is to downplay someone elses habits and methods of using a tool? Would you even be so bold to tell someone that creating a simple box in Photoshop can only be done ONE WAY? There are *many* ways to do *many* things, for your sake I would hope youd let go of your apple bias and accept the reality that *everyone* does things at least slightly differently.

I'm getting *extremely* tired of this notion that just because some guy in a blue jeans and a black turtleneck told you to do something one way is the ONLY way to go about doing so. I'm tired of having to repeat myself over and over and over again in regards to *anything* that could be done differently.

If you ever worked in a professional environment, you'd immediately realize that everyone has their own way of going about certain things.

You would benefit greatly if you did NOT accept everything from the mouth of steve jobs or his successors as the word of 'god', instead think for yourself and how YOUR experience using a tool (because thats what computers are to the prosumer) is done to YOUR liking, not someone elses... but again, that would require you to be in a professional environment to realize the differences.
 
I've said this to other members and I will say it to you as well and make myself as clear as possible:

YOU, nor anyone else (like your idol steve jobs) will ever dictate how I should use any device, piece of software or manage my workflow. To do so is only a sign of extreme arrogance and ignorance. Do you even realize how ignorant your comment is to downplay someone elses habits and methods of using a tool? Would you even be so bold to tell someone that creating a simple box in Photoshop can only be done ONE WAY? There are *many* ways to do *many* things, for your sake I would hope youd let go of your apple bias and accept the reality that *everyone* does things at least slightly differently.

I'm getting *extremely* tired of this notion that just because some guy in a blue jeans and a black turtleneck told you to do something one way is the ONLY way to go about doing so. I'm tired of having to repeat myself over and over and over again in regards to *anything* that could be done differently.

If you ever worked in a professional environment, you'd immediately realize that everyone has their own way of going about certain things.

You would benefit greatly if you did NOT accept everything from the mouth of steve jobs or his successors as the word of 'god', instead think for yourself and how YOUR experience using a tool (because thats what computers are to the prosumer) is done to YOUR liking, not someone elses... but again, that would require you to be in a professional environment to realize the differences.

Huh. I still wonder, when I read posts like these, where exactly does Steve Jobs/Tim Cook dictate me and tell me that the way they suggested is the only one good way for everyone. Can you point me to such statements please? Thanks.
 
Huh. I still wonder, when I read posts like these, where exactly does Steve Jobs/Tim Cook dictate me and tell me that the way they suggested is the only one good way for everyone. Can you point me to such statements please? Thanks.

If you 've not woken up to this fact by now yourself no matter how many statements (implicit or explicit) they are going to point you to you are not going to hear them...
 
Huh. I still wonder, when I read posts like these, where exactly does Steve Jobs/Tim Cook dictate me and tell me that the way they suggested is the only one good way for everyone. Can you point me to such statements please? Thanks.

They don't. (not obviously anyway, but they do in the simplest ways, I'll explain later). But some people tend to think that way. Hence the reply because said person couldnt comprehend the fact that I, like many others, do things that they themselves wouldnt think of.

There was never a real need for a tablet that would be a cross between a phone and laptop, but since steve jobs introduced it, people have gone apewild. Personally, I think tablets are a useless toy (all of them, ipad, galaxy, kindle fire, playbook, ALL of them) and no *real* work can be done on them. But, as we all know, that one guy, the guy that resembles big brother (ironically) proved otherwise and its been (somehow) the hottest market since the smartphone.

In any case, comments that negate someones workflow or dislike towards someones objections should be tossed out. Valid criticism should stand, ie; I can't stand Lion or Mountain Lion because its lacking proper Expose (I need to see all my open windows all at the same time. I will NOT use Lion or later because it groups all windows within an application. I multitask a lot and need a direct view of everything, something that mission control has failed miserably to do. a simple solution would be to add an option in system preferences to ungroup windows, but apple doesnt care to even add such a simple solution).

Reality is; apple DOES in fact dictate how you use your computer, whats available, what your options are, etc;
-your limited choices of video cards
-the fact that there is no reasonably priced desktop that isnt an all in one (mac mini does not count, im speaking *real desktop*)
-the need for safari to use itunes, the need for a new computer just to use a new ipod (when in reality, you shouldnt)
-no divx, xvid, x264 or mkv support on any iOS device
-the locked down nature of iOS making it impossible to retrieve music or movies BACK from an iOS device
-the fact that all iOS devices *require iTunes*
-no choice in customizing mission control the proper way (expose)
-removing launchpad from the dock does not disable, its still running in the background (an ultimately useless application)
-no removable batteries on any iOS device, EVER made

I could go on and on and on.... but theres no way to deny the fact that apple DOES limit you for their own benefit... their own profit (because they really dont give a crap about you as a consumer, prosumer, or user of a device, your just a dollar sign).
 
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They don't. But some people tend to think that way. Hence the reply because said person couldnt comprehend the fact that I, like many others, do things that they themselves wouldnt think of.

There was never a real need for a tablet that would be a cross between a phone and laptop, but since steve jobs introduced it, people have gone apewild. Personally, I think tablets are a useless toy (all of them, ipad, galaxy, kindle fire, playbook, ALL of them) and no *real* work can be done on them. But, as we all know, that one guy, the guy that resembles big brother (ironically) proved otherwise and its been (somehow) the hottest market since the smartphone.

In any case, comments that negate someones workflow or dislike towards someones objections should be tossed out. Valid criticism should stand, ie; I can't stand Lion or Mountain Lion because its lacking proper Expose (I need to see all my open windows all at the same time. I will NOT use Lion or later because it groups all windows within an application. I multitask a lot and need a direct view of everything, something that mission control has failed miserably to do. a simple solution would be to add an option in system preferences to ungroup windows, but apple doesnt care to even add such a simple solution).

Well, that means that is not the fault of Jobs/Cook/Apple. Company introduces product and tries to sell it. There are people that may find use for the new product, people who may not find use for that but buy it anyway, people who buy it, test it and find that it doesn't fit into their workflow, and people who recognize right away that it is not for them.

In my previous comment, I was simply trying to point out the fact that it is not Apple's fault. They do not force you to buy it. Thus the criticism should be aimed at people who keep telling you that it must be the best for you.

Valid and constructive criticism is always good and can help other people decide. However, there are still some people (and I do not mean you), that simply read the article, go to the comments and write "this is *****, I won't buy it". That is the opposite extreme of people who keep telling you that they know best what you do and do not need.

Apple does not dictate me anything. I can buy it, if I find that their offer is good. If it is not, I won't buy it and check the offer of their competitors. It is simple as that (and it can't get any simpler).
 
YOU, nor anyone else (like your idol steve jobs) will ever dictate how I should use any device, piece of software or manage my workflow. To do so is only a sign of extreme arrogance and ignorance.


There was never a real need for a tablet that would be a cross between a phone and laptop, but since steve jobs introduced it, bla bla bla


Oh, the irony. But I am glad that you guy showed up here on MR and explained us technology and basically how to do our workflows (non tablet based...)
 
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