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Haven't read all 15 pages, so apologies if someone has already mentioned this possibility. What if apple release an ipad 3 with a standard display and a retina display iPad for $100-$200 premium, will we all be happy to pay up?

Well that would suck. I'll upgrade from my iPad to the new iPad 3 if the prices stay the same, not otherwise. The iPhone 4 didn't go up in price, but then again, that screen is much smaller than the iPad's screen so who knows maybe the iPad retina justifies a price bump.
 
Oh I agree that the 4 was a fantastic device, as is the 4S, but the 4S was the first dip in a feature.

So does this mean it's a crack in the armor? I'm 50/50 on it till I actually see the device in function.
yeah, standby time was decreased, likely due to the new sensor they are using for "lift to talk" plus the fact that location services are now used a lot more (weather for example now can constantly track location for the widget to show the weather of the city you are in).

At some point you have to understand that adding features/better processors/GPUs, etc. while trying to maintain the same form factor is going to use more battery.

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Imagine watching youtube and everythings all pixelated. T_T
I suppose not a lot of people understand this, but that is completely false. A video (say at 720p resolution) is going to look the exact same on an iPad 1 as it does on an iPad 2, and it will on an iPad 3.

Think about it this way, take a pixel from the iPad 2. THat one pixel now contains 4 pixels. If you are using an old app (non-retina graphics) or looking at a low res picture, or a 720p video, it is NOT going to literally show with the same number of pixels as it does in real life. Apple implements a pixel doubling feature that replicates the display of old devices. So an image that's 200x200 pixels, won't appear as 200x200 on the ipad 3, but rather as 400x400 with each "real pixel" being reproduced to take up 4 pixels on the display.

first iPhone was £269 (i think) unsubsidised, now an unlocked 4s starts at £499.
can't comment on eurpoean prices, but in the US the iPhone launched at $499 and $599 for 4gb and 8gb models. They were subsidized a few months later, the 4gb model was dropped, and a 16gb model was introduced.
 
Can you really sell them for double once they are put on pre-order? Why would anyone pay double when they can just pre purchase one themselves? What am I missing?

International markets is what you are missing...

In my country when the original iPhone launched in the states a lot of people paid 1000€ for it, that's about $1300.

There are legions of scalpers for some reason
 
yeah, standby time was decreased, likely due to the new sensor they are using for "lift to talk" plus the fact that location services are now used a lot more (weather for example now can constantly track location for the widget to show the weather of the city you are in).

At some point you have to understand that adding features/better processors/GPUs, etc. while trying to maintain the same form factor is going to use more battery.

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Of course that makes sense, but this is apple! Up till the 4S, they were never dropping in a stat. They were innovating on all fronts. Even keeping the same stats from iPad 1 to 2 while adding features was a massive perk in my book.

I'm just saying they were on a flawless streak, and then they hit a snag. It's minor and one could overlook it yes, but the second we overlook one thing, the discipline of maintaining a standard can start to slip. I hope apple does fix its mistake, because I believe no one needs to turn off features to maintain what they had before.

I guess if something deserves my money, it has to meet my standards. I value battery life. No point of amazing features if you can't use them.
 
Cant believe the fanboy idiots on this site.

The Samsung Galaxy S2 screen will always be way ahead of the iPhone screen as long as Apple keep using their crappy LCD screens. I'm not saying LCD screens are bad, I'm saying the screens that Apple source are. The PlayBook screen for example completely overshadows anything from the iPad or iPhone.

Apple seriously need to start investing in OLED screens to get the best out of their phones. Both in colour and performance perspectives.

But why do I bother. The die hard Apple fanboys which make up most of this forum will down vote this comment into oblivion because they cant think of a suitable response.
 
Cant believe the fanboy idiots on this site.

The Samsung Galaxy S2 screen will always be way ahead of the iPhone screen as long as Apple keep using their crappy LCD screens. I'm not saying LCD screens are bad, I'm saying the screens that Apple source are. The PlayBook screen for example completely overshadows anything from the iPad or iPhone.

Apple seriously need to start investing in OLED screens to get the best out of their phones. Both in colour and performance perspectives.

But why do I bother. The die hard Apple fanboys which make up most of this forum will down vote this comment into oblivion because they cant think of a suitable response.

So why DID you bother?
 
Cant believe the fanboy idiots on this site.

The Samsung Galaxy S2 screen will always be way ahead of the iPhone screen as long as Apple keep using their crappy LCD screens. I'm not saying LCD screens are bad, I'm saying the screens that Apple source are. The PlayBook screen for example completely overshadows anything from the iPad or iPhone.

Apple seriously need to start investing in OLED screens to get the best out of their phones. Both in colour and performance perspectives.

But why do I bother. The die hard Apple fanboys which make up most of this forum will down vote this comment into oblivion because they cant think of a suitable response.

Huh? I am pretty certain that no one else is saying Apple uses bad screens. Any more information on what you mean?
 
.I guess if something deserves my money, it has to meet my standards. I value battery life. No point of amazing features if you can't use them.

Yes, because you can't use any of those amazing features since standby time went down to 200 hours vs 300 hours. I have no doubt you routinely go over 200 hours without charging your phone and that you wait until the 201st+ hour to use any of those features.
 
Cant believe the fanboy idiots on this site.

The Samsung Galaxy S2 screen will always be way ahead of the iPhone screen as long as Apple keep using their crappy LCD screens. I'm not saying LCD screens are bad, I'm saying the screens that Apple source are. The PlayBook screen for example completely overshadows anything from the iPad or iPhone.

Apple seriously need to start investing in OLED screens to get the best out of their phones. Both in colour and performance perspectives.

But why do I bother. The die hard Apple fanboys which make up most of this forum will down vote this comment into oblivion because they cant think of a suitable response.

And to think 15 million people must be "idiots" because they chose the iPad over the far Galaxy Tab that has a superior screen :rolleyes: I am so grateful that someone like yourself could pop in and set everyone straight on this. Thanks for stopping by.

By the way, the only one who is an idiot here is the person calling other people idiots.
 
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ipad release

I was on the phone with apple support today for my iphone and asked if she knew anything or heard anything of the ipad release announcement.

She said they usually know something about a month previous to the event where they would announce the release and she hasn't heard a thing yet.
 
International markets is what you are missing...

In my country when the original iPhone launched in the states a lot of people paid 1000€ for it, that's about $1300.

There are legions of scalpers for some reason


I understand the iPhones, because to be able to get the cheaper price you have to be "eligible" for an upgrade or be a new customer all together. But with the iPad's everyone pays the same price.
 
LOL HDMI? I'll just use AirPlay, thanks. :rolleyes:

Wait I can stream music and video via wifi!? What an incredible invention apple invented! They have somehow "networked" my "home", they should call it iHomenetworking! At least it doesn't require proprietary AirPlay equipment......lol

Wouldn't mentioning the HDMI adapter from apple been a better compliment to his statement rather then AirPlay?
 
Yes, because you can't use any of those amazing features since standby time went down to 200 hours vs 300 hours. I have no doubt you routinely go over 200 hours without charging your phone and that you wait until the 201st+ hour to use any of those features.

I have no doubt that you had to assume that. :rolleyes:

Sorry I deal with facts and logic.
 
Youre telling me that apple products DONT get praise no matter what and the other competing products are given credit in all areas?

The reality is, over the last 10 years in the mobile/portable devices world, there have been LOTS of superior products that went unnoticed.

Take Cowon iAudio mp3 players. They trumped iPods in every area.

But hey, to you this is fud. To everyone else who thinks rationally, its fanboyism and bias.
I agree my Cowon iAudio 10 does sound significantly better than my iPod classic, but the software on my Cowon is ... lacking.
 
Hear hear! I spent last year writing a master's thesis and relied heavily on spaces and expose. Medical journals aren't the easiest things to navigate at the best of times but if you hide them behind each other in that Mission Control POS then you're pretty much SOL. As it is I'm sticking with SL for the foreseeable future but I'm buggered when I have to finally get round to upgrading this late '08 MBP. Why can't apple just unbreak expose? The way I see it they're either too incompetent to realise what they've done, or too arrogant to admit it.






The amount of people on this thread who misuse the 'irony' tag never fails to astound me. It's almost as if Americans fail to grasp the meaning ;)

I am currently writing a thesis now. In my opinion its not that they are being arrogant. It is that they are changing their product. I didn't like it at first, but I have gotten used to the change. So I make it work. For me it is easier to accept the change instead of being annoyed by something that it is out of my control. Sure I could keep SL installed, but its fun to discover the new implementations in Lion. Anyhow, they most likely will not bring back Expose so I'm just going to move forward with Lion and eventually Mountain Lion.
 
yeah, standby time was decreased, likely due to the new sensor they are using for "lift to talk" plus the fact that location services are now used a lot more (weather for example now can constantly track location for the widget to show the weather of the city you are in).

At some point you have to understand that adding features/better processors/GPUs, etc. while trying to maintain the same form factor is going to use more battery.


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I am not so sure that they put a new sensor.... Correct me if I am wrong though, I think it is just the standard proximity sensor with programing to make Siri come on when the phone is near your face, much like when the screen turns off when you're on a phone call (so you don't inadvertently push buttons).
 

You paying for it doesnt make it legal, knowing that Apple hasn't published it yet. If you go into a pawn shop and buy a real Rolex for $50 - you cant say it is legal either. Knowing it was probably sold by some drunk who stole it in the first place.

Either way, just because that display exists, doesn't make it a 'confirmed' feature. It doesn't mean it goes into production and we see it in the end product. Wat heh - you guy do anything for post counts nowadays :)
 
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I am not so sure that they put a new sensor.... Correct me if I am wrong though, I think it is just the standard proximity sensor with programing to make Siri come on when the phone is near your face, much like when the screen turns off when you're on a phone call (so you don't inadvertently push buttons).
it's a new infrared LED sensor that now turns on anytime the screen is on as opposed to only when you are in a call....
 
it's a new infrared LED sensor that now turns on anytime the screen is on as opposed to only when you are in a call....

Yep he is correct.

Although I'm surprised apple didn't use the standard proximity sensor. I know it's meant to be used for phone calls while the other LED is for Siri. Thing is, how hard is it for the iPhone to know you're talking in phone app? As a programmer, they could of just done it in code so VoIP apps would just need to make the needed changes.

I hold apple to extremely high standards because they charge a premium for their products. It's not that I can afford them, it's based on my principles that I won't waste my money on something that isn't necessary or doesnt allow me to do things in a crunch. When we have a new CEO in charge, I must watch really closely to see their standards. If Cook is starting to let things slide here or there, the quality of the product suffers, and thus the quality of the brand suffers.

So yeah I keep an eye on the stocks :cool:
 
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