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Carrier [Confirmed] Verizon Unlimited Loophole
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Has anyone had any experience with activating an upgrade on a UDP account from a non-UDP line that is not on the same account as the UDP?
I pre-ordered my VZW iPhone 5 from Best Buy. It was in stock and I picked it up this morning. I have the UDP, my mom has a basic phone and an upgrade. I had the nice sales associate upgrade her to the iPhone 5. The nice sales associate put my mom's basic phone back on to her line. The iPhone 5 is off this whole time. When it came time to put the iPhone 5 on my phone number, VZW kicked it out saying the SIM was already associated with another number (mom's).
I went to the nearby VZW store to request a new SIM. They had plenty in stock but I was told by two different people (one a manager) that she could not give me a SIM card knowing that it was going to be put into a discounted iPhone 5 in order to keep the UDP. I explained to her everything discussed in this thread as well as my previous convo with VZW's phone support that it would be possible.
I went to another VZW store near my law school and was told that it IS possible to do the aforementioned procedure but they were all out of SIM cards. I had this nice VZW sales associate call the local store I was just at to have them hold a SIM for me. When I showed up, I went to a different associate, said a SIM was waiting for me. After a few clicks of the mouse, a SIM swap, and a pleasant wait for activation, I now have a fully functioning iPhone 5 on Verizon with unlimited data.
For what it's worth, having an iCould backup of my old phone in the cloud was awesome! Once on wifi, I did a complete restore and it was like I had never switched devices.
I went to the nearby VZW store to request a new SIM. They had plenty in stock but I was told by two different people (one a manager) that she could not give me a SIM card knowing that it was going to be put into a discounted iPhone 5 in order to keep the UDP. I explained to her everything discussed in this thread as well as my previous convo with VZW's phone support that it would be possible.
I went to another VZW store near my law school and was told that it IS possible to do the aforementioned procedure but they were all out of SIM cards. I had this nice VZW sales associate call the local store I was just at to have them hold a SIM for me. When I showed up, I went to a different associate, said a SIM was waiting for me. After a few clicks of the mouse, a SIM swap, and a pleasant wait for activation, I now have a fully functioning iPhone 5 on Verizon with unlimited data.
For what it's worth, having an iCould backup of my old phone in the cloud was awesome! Once on wifi, I did a complete restore and it was like I had never switched devices.
I'm glad you experienced the same thing, TdubyaC; mine also asked to confirm the number (displaying the dumbphone I activated it on), but I just continued past that. Phone working now.
By the way, my iPhone 5 has been up for a few hours now, but when I turned on my old iPhone 4 I noticed that it was still active; basically my messages are going to both devices. Anyone else experiencing this?
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Hey guys, I'm just activating online.
My option for my data says "unlimited email and web for smartphones (personal email)"
That IS my existing ULD plan, correct?
My option for my data says "unlimited email and web for smartphones (personal email)"
That IS my existing ULD plan, correct?
I transferred an upgrade from an unlimited line to a tiered line. On the order page, it said the 2GB line. My email receipt said the UDP line. Help! Someone??? Anyone in the same boat? Should I call Verizon?
Congrats, you got the 2GB data plan. Since you didn't read the all the messages you now lost your ULD, assuming you activated the phone.
I just ordered the phone. And who in their right mind could read all this forum? I'm going to cancel the order and wait until the preorder page is down.
Reading this thread all day and not being sure what exactly was going on made me realize something. To get a 32GB 5 and a 4S for my wife, It would cost me $750 to upgrade my phone subsidized and buy hers on ebay. It will cost me $850 to buy my phone unsubsidized and get hers subsidized. I walked into a Verizon store today at 4:30 and walked out with my full priced iPhone 5 in 45 minutes. Downgraded my minutes from 1400 to 700, added the $30 hotspot. Done...
The people that felt their ULD was important enough to keep.
This - although I just gave up (see above)
Well I called Verizon to activate my new iPhone 5.
They activated on basic line and then removed it.
When they tried to activate on my UDL line, their system barfed with a SIM error.
Told me to wait 24 hours, or at least call tomorrow morning at earliest.
Now I know that some people have activated it using the website.
The problem is I have an ancient feature on my line that will get dropped if I don't have a CS rep do it.
Last time it got dropped, I had to wait something like 3 weekdays to get it reinstated.
Probably will happen again, but at least the CS rep will see it disappear and begin to remedy it immediately.
Guess I'll just set it up using WiFi for now, no biggie.
They activated on basic line and then removed it.
When they tried to activate on my UDL line, their system barfed with a SIM error.
Told me to wait 24 hours, or at least call tomorrow morning at earliest.
Now I know that some people have activated it using the website.
The problem is I have an ancient feature on my line that will get dropped if I don't have a CS rep do it.
Last time it got dropped, I had to wait something like 3 weekdays to get it reinstated.
Probably will happen again, but at least the CS rep will see it disappear and begin to remedy it immediately.
Guess I'll just set it up using WiFi for now, no biggie.
The people that felt their ULD was important enough to keep.
Verizon is probably allowing this loophole because they realize people don't use all that much data anyways. I use my phone a lot, and usually average 1.5-2.0GB a month.
I heard that they throttle the top 5% of users; I wonder if they'll start monitoring the ULD people more strictly.
The iP5 will get added to his line and then you will need to remove the iP5. After the removal of the iP5 you have to add back his phone.
It may depend on where you order it from. I ordered from Apple from the dumbphone line and added the 2GB data plan. While the order was processing I checked my Verizon account and noticed that dumbphone line's contract had been extended, with no Data Plan. I don't think the phone appears on the line until you activate it.
I just activated the phone online for my Unlimited Data plan line, and didn't have to do anything with the dumbphone at all. During the activation process it'll probably ask you to confirm that the correct number is the dumbphone's number, but you just do it anyways.
Have a similar problem (iP5 was ordered on my mom's number since she had the upgrade, turned it on and activated her number to my iP5 because Verizon told me to and now i have to wait 24 hrs). I tried doing what others have said to do on the Verizon site but it gives me an error. ????? /:
Success!
After following this thread from the start, I just want to add details of my own successful experience.
Here is what happened:
I pre-ordered the iphone5 on a dumb phone line with an available upgrade. When the package arrived today I did not activate it on my own, but called the VZW rep. She was able to activate the phone directly to my UDP line and keep my UDP intact. The dumbphone line experienced no interruptions, as there was never a phone swap on that line. My line now has an iPhone5 with UDP.
That's what happened, but here is what I can surmise for those of you trying the same thing. Below is only a hunch, so read with a grain of salt.
The woman told me that had I activated the phone on my own on the dumbphone line, I would have had to go into a Verizon store to swap sim cards. This makes me think that a successful activation on a UDP line might be achieved in several different ways- as we are seeing from people's posts today. What seems to be the key is not using an available upgrade on an unlimited line.
Anyhow, it can be done. Thanks to all who have posted their experiences.
After following this thread from the start, I just want to add details of my own successful experience.
Here is what happened:
I pre-ordered the iphone5 on a dumb phone line with an available upgrade. When the package arrived today I did not activate it on my own, but called the VZW rep. She was able to activate the phone directly to my UDP line and keep my UDP intact. The dumbphone line experienced no interruptions, as there was never a phone swap on that line. My line now has an iPhone5 with UDP.
That's what happened, but here is what I can surmise for those of you trying the same thing. Below is only a hunch, so read with a grain of salt.
The woman told me that had I activated the phone on my own on the dumbphone line, I would have had to go into a Verizon store to swap sim cards. This makes me think that a successful activation on a UDP line might be achieved in several different ways- as we are seeing from people's posts today. What seems to be the key is not using an available upgrade on an unlimited line.
Anyhow, it can be done. Thanks to all who have posted their experiences.